RedPhil1957
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so Klopp is at Liverpool and Pep is at City? So we can’t have them managing us. I’m not saying there aren’t more experienced managers out there. But we went for Jose and we went for LVG, and that didn’t work. Throwing £100ms away in the process.
If you somehow expected OGS to be challenging for the league after 18 months, arriving season after Jose’s meltdown then that’s utterly insane, and a ridiculous argument to hit him with.
He’s got rid of crap like Lukuku, Fellaini, Valencia and Sanchez. He’s moved on Smalling and Rojo at least temporarily and Young as well. He’s changing the culture and has got the best out of Fred, McTominey, Shaw and Martial - all of which were faltering under Jose.
His signings of Ighalo, AWB, James, Maguire and Bruno have all been successful.
if you think this is just a marginal improvement, then I’m not sure we watch the same team.
Ole was a Utd legend as a player, he’s not particularly one of my favourite players - clearly there is an unbelievable conveyor belt of great players you could choo
remind me what experience Guardiola had at Barcelona, Lampard at Chelsea, Zidane at Real? Again not comparing per se, but experience is not everything. Younger people with less experience come into management ahead of experienced people all the time - that’s a very old school way of thinking. Get over it.
we have made a great deal of progress from the foundations of the club since he’s come in.
1987 BTW is when I started supporting the club. But your attitude seems to be longevity is more important.
I’m part of the ole out brigade but I’m also getting bored of these continuous threads. However I got a warning for saying less than you did in the above post about the ole in brigade. Reading your post makes me cringe.
We have come on immensely over the last 18 months..... are we Man Utd or wast ham Utd? Have your standards dropped that much.
I am bitter and twisted because I am a true Utd fan. I started supporting Utd in 1983 and it was tough with the scouse continuously lauding it. When we finally deposed them it was the happiest day of my life and still is. It’s a religion and when you see your club in the state itwas back in 83, inconsistent as hell with mediocre players like Clayton Blackmore and then players like Colin Gibson coming in, you can understand why we didn’t win the league. We played a midfield of Colin Gibson and Mal Donaghy one match.......
But this team are more talented and are producing the same inconsist performances as the mid eighties teams and they don’t have to play on a quagmire like the players used to in the mid eighties where the pitch was half mudafter rugby league matches.
There is no excuse and it isn’t good enough we aren’t improving it’s just better players with slightly better attitudes (as you’ve suggested) and nothing to do with the coaching. This squad aren’t just relying on Robbo like the eighties squads used to there are better players in this squad but the end result is the same.
I want a manager with pedigree. I was screaming for Klopp when SAF left. You can’t compare ole with Klopp. Klopp is on another stratosphere and you want ole? Any chance he’s one of your favourite players because of the 99 final? Cos let’s face it we’ve had much better strikers at Utd than ole (he was the best finisher of the lot in my opinion but not the best striker)
Love UTD and nothing else, the legend is the club itself not one player and no real football fan can say that OGS has earned the right to manage this legend.
I worked my backside off in my industry to get to where i got to and a few months later some jimmy turns up at my company on the same pay grade with half my experience and qualifications and this wouldn’t happen normally. I did some digging and it transpired his dad knew the director of the department and they were friends.......
Ole’s Appointment as manager is similar and he is benefitting from privilege rather than earned the right to be where he is. It’s come too soon for him, and just one of many points, how long does it take a manager and his defensive coaches to teach professional footballers to hold a straight line? If ole isn’t coaching them why has he not sacked whoever is? He is guilty of this alone.
Earn the right to be at your level do not benefit from privilege. Ole’s appointment was a simple ploy by Woodward to placate some fans. It seems it’s working
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