Yes. The saves he made in this 16 games goes unnoticed and no credit. Agenda all the way. Dave is great.
Dean Henderson has to be our #1 next season? Poll added
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
He needs to sort himself out or he's going the way of Joe Hart.
Good bit of skill to get past Maguire but, come on, there is no way on earth he should have scored from virtually on the goal line. That was absolutely terriblr from de Gea.
I do wonder if the defence is hesitant because they know de Gea is likely to make a mistake behind them.
He left a huge gap between himself and the post. Any keeper should save that shot from near enough on the goal line, it's a terrible mistake. Please, stop making excuses for him.
He isn't . There is not a lot that can be done in that situation. He was slow in reacting because Maguire got nutmegged in 6 yard box and it became one on one. From that close range if the striker has clear shot, then it's never a GK mistake. That's what he is pointing at. De Gea could have stopped it but it's not a mistake.
For your reference, Henderson let a similar goal against Arsenal just last week. Only reason why it doesn't get blown out of proportion because he doesn't play for Manchester United.
Of course there's a lot he can do in that situation, like not leave a huge gap at the near post for a shot from near the goal line.
It's a huge mistake whether you and he like it or not.
Why are so many trying to defend de Gea on this? It's a bad mistake, clear as day.
Ole: No decision to make - de Gea all day long.
Clearly. Maguire did feck up. He was megged - always an embarrassment, and in this case one that could have been avoided if he had been more aware.
Doesn't do much for DDG, though: he fecked up too. His positioning is highly questionable. When the situation arose he should have moved his arse to make the angle less dangerous. Anticipation/positioning on the part of DDG wasn't first rate.
Huge/blatant mistake? No. First rate goal keeping? No, obviously not.
For your reference, refer to previous pages.
Huge gap? Nobody is defending him. He could have saved it but letting your GK go one on one in 6 yard box with time to hit it, I would never blame GK if goal is scored.Of course there's a lot he can do in that situation, like not leave a huge gap at the near post for a shot from near the goal line.
It's a huge mistake whether you and he like it or not.
Why are so many trying to defend de Gea on this? It's a bad mistake, clear as day.
He was virtually on the goal line, he should never in a month of Sundays been able to score at the near post from there.
We're not going to agree on this so let's leave it there.
It's a gamble next season with Henderson, regardless of what people say. Another full season at Sheffield United will be massive. Drop Dave for Romero if the mistakes continue. People under estimate experience and pressure. Imagine a full season for Henderson and playing in the Euro's, if it goes well there will be no debate.
Imagine winning 5-2 and having a ferocious argument about who was more to blame for the first goal of the game.
No idea why the chat is in here anyway. Henderson in arguably worse form than De Gea at the moment.
Have we become a title contender yet? If no, what's the problem looking for an upgrade to the team to achieve higher? A 5:2 win against a side in relegation zone (who also lost 1:4 to Newcastle a few days ago) means there's no room for improvement?
Maybe the first thought should be the positive angle of the goals.
Why is nobody mentioning Romero?
Personally he's finished the highest rated goalkeeper in my match day ratings for the past 3 seasons in a row.
I'd have no problem with Romero being our number one for a season and if it didn't work then bring in Henderson or another GK.
If Dave the wanker wants to go back to Madrid so much sell him to Atletico with a swap deal for Oblak who has said he has eyes on England previously. Easy work.
Personally he's finished the highest rated goalkeeper in my match day ratings for the past 3 seasons in a row.
I'd have no problem with Romero being our number one for a season and if it didn't work then bring in Henderson or another GK.
If Dave the wanker wants to go back to Madrid so much sell him to Atletico with a swap deal for Oblak who has said he has eyes on England previously. Easy work.
Maybe the goal he conceded vs Norwich?
Anyone remember what Pep said about breaking the code with Messi? He instructed the team to pass Messi the ball atleast every third pass. Messi needed to be involved to reach his rythm.
Could well be the same with De Gea. He does well if kept busy. So he should play for a defensiveminded side. Just a theory.
Could well be the same with De Gea. He does well if kept busy. So he should play for a defensiveminded side. Just a theory.
you clearly have no idea about goalkeeping. You don't try to cover both corners at the same time that is literally impossible.You always close off the front post at a tight angle. If the striker curls it into the opposite top corner you say well done. If you allow the striker to creep it in between the goalkeeper and the near post you say goalkeeper WTF are you doing.
A DDG mistake clear and simple.
He had nothing at all of the other post to aim at anyway
You always close off the front post at a tight angle. If the striker curls it into the opposite top corner you say well done. If you allow the striker to creep it in between the goalkeeper and the near post you say goalkeeper WTF are you doing.
A DDG mistake clear and simple.
this is a clear clear amateur move by ddg.Also the biggest lie that people tell themselves on here is that if de gea conceded X goal by man utd player then he'd be crucified. Sorry but that's where you're wrong.
I think he just hedged his bets thinking "no way will he get it near post" and probably thought it was going to be cut back to whoever was in the box (king I think( so cheated a little to get a head start. He should have just stuck to the post.He had nothing at all of the other post to aim at anyway
Also the biggest lie that people tell themselves on here is that if de gea conceded X goal by man utd player then he'd be crucified. Sorry but that's where you're wrong.
He got done by Coutinho in the Europa league in the same fashion. Just stand up and be a wall?!
He actually went down thinking it was going to be a low shot. If that were Henderson he would have tried to kick it only to concede the goal through his legs. He made a gamble and lost, but still not enough for me to replace him with Henderson, who isn't ready.
You always close off the front post at a tight angle. If the striker curls it into the opposite top corner you say well done. If you allow the striker to creep it in between the goalkeeper and the near post you say goalkeeper WTF are you doing.
A DDG mistake clear and simple.
I'm not saying Henderson is ready either, but people trying to say it wasn't a mistake is quite frankly stupid.
Anyone claiming that Henderson should replace de Gea next season needs to watch the Burnley-Sheffield game. He’s absolutely not ready.
Poor on the goal conceded today.
I’m watching more and more SHU games for Henderson but I feel there’s at least one mistake in him every game. Today almost gifted a chance to make it 2-0 but McNeil sent it wide. From two great GKs, we’re going to none. He’s at least young though.
He was really good before the lockdown but has struggled since. To be fair, the same can be said for quite a few keepers.
I know. It just seemed like a matter of when he will be our number one. Some people wanted it to be next season as well. Frankly, I don’t see it right now as he has mistakes in him as well. We make him our number one and if those mistakes are replicated, it could cause massive damage to his confidence. There seems to be an extra focus on any mistakes that United players make. Unfortunately, being highlighted by our former players like Keane and Scholes. Whenever we get him into our team, it has to be a careful settling in period.
This is not necessarily directed at De Gea, but is there any other position in football where you can see a drastic drop in performance than the goal keeper position? The fall from world class to nobody can happen within the blink of an eye when it comes to keepers. I guess it is because the margin of error is so slim, and the level required is so high.
People won't give him the time he will need to settle in. De Gea got pasted in his first season and that's back when social media was in its infancy.
Its less to do with social media and more with the United specific punditry. That Keane remark on De Gea that he would be swinging punches etc is as juvenile and idiotic as it comes. Even after yesterday’s big win, Scholes still had to throw shade at Maguire as well. I’m yet to come across an incident where a United player’s mistake will be let go as a one-off. There have been no comments on our great defensive record off late. Surely there must have been one outstanding performer or leader there.
The more I see of Henderson, the more I get convinced that he is not better than De Gea. He was lucky not to lose the game today. He makes more mistakes than de Gea, the scrutiny just isn't as big.
de Gea hasn’t been great recently, but I do think there are very high expectations placed on goalkeepers. Even in games where he has made a mistake, he has also pulled off very good saves.
I would much rather a keeper beaten at his near post from point black range because he got his positioning wrong, and the team win 5-2, to my keeper being beaten from 35 yards and losing 1-0, as happened to another team today. That same keeper put his own teammate in hospital a few weeks ago with another strange piece of goalkeeping.
All keepers have mistakes in them.
I would much rather a keeper beaten at his near post from point black range because he got his positioning wrong, and the team win 5-2, to my keeper being beaten from 35 yards and losing 1-0, as happened to another team today. That same keeper put his own teammate in hospital a few weeks ago with another strange piece of goalkeeping.
All keepers have mistakes in them.
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Chelsea apparently are signing Cakir
Yes. Case in point, Sanchez.
I loved seeing him beat Giroud to a header during the last few minutes.
That was crazy, and pretty funny honestly. It's not necessarily an easy task to beat Giroud in the air, but now we now he is apparently a great header of the ball and fearless. Great trait to have when we're one behind in a CL-final and he goes up on the last corner to get us into extra time. I've been saying, he is the incarnation of Peter Schmeichel.
Hope Sheffield Utd get the EL. Send Henderson back out on loan to them, as low-stakes European football would be the perfect next step for him. And then bring him back to challenge De Gea in the 2021/22 season, which is perfect timing for us as well as De Gea will have 2 years left on his contract by then.