Is Daniel James set to become our best signing since RVP?

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Just runs around like a headless chicken. He think he got pace and that will get him past people. Walcott made the same mistake. At least the latter could play a little so he was useful sometimes. Should have just let James go to Leeds. This is not his level clearly. He is miles behind.
 

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Needs to be sold, its hard to find a player so limited as him nowadays.
 

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Fancy starting him in a front 2 though....I mean fecking hell.
 

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He is now firmly a part of the “massive drop in quality” group with Mata and Lingard. Desperately need another couple of quality options for next season.
Agreed. He might be young(ish) at 22 but I'd be amazed if he ever proves good enough for us. Pace is his only good attribute and I don't think he's even that good at using his pace.
 
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Yeah he's pretty limited ain't he?

The problem is he has zero strength so one little shoulder sends him flying into the stands
 

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It's like he won a competition to get to play for United.

Ask yourself would get into any other side in the top half of the premier?

We need better players than him
 

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He actually doesn’t have the skill to beat a man with the ball at his feet.
 

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Far from good enough for this club. I initially thought he'd be an okay sub to have against tired teams, with his pace and energy. But his level of all around technical ability is shocking, and while he is young, that is something that can't be magically improved that much. I wonder whether we can convert him into a fullback option down the line, but as a winger, he's bottom table material.
 

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This thread title looks absolutely ludicrous.

His games need to be picked a bit more carefully. He's not a game changer at this level, but can do a good job coming on late against weary legs in games with either loads of space, or against weak opponents.
 

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He's got his uses but we need to utilise him as appropriate and allow him to blend in as a squad bench player.
 

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Seems like a good lad but he just isn’t good enough.
 

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Chelsea must have been popping the champagne when they saw the team sheet and he was starting in a front two.
 

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I’d send him out on loan to the championship where he can play every week. Hopefully some consistent play time will help him develop. I don’t have much hope but I’d rather that than ship him off after one season while he’s still young. That just doesn’t seem the right thing to do.
 

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He's a squad player, and he'll improve.

We need to lower our expectations of what we expect of him at this stage of his career. Not all players are world beaters at 22. He's still in Championship mode and we need to either loan him out, or save him to bring off the bench for the next season or two and help him develop the technical aspects of his game.
 

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He is someone who can run fast and drop easily. No quality whatsoever there.
 

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He was a 'ole it's giggsy. buy James he runs fast Welsh and needs experience in top ganes'. Can't see him improving enough either. He's as old as rashford and Sancho and greenwood are way ahead of him skill wise
 

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Far from good enough for this club. I initially thought he'd be an okay sub to have against tired teams, with his pace and energy. But his level of all around technical ability is shocking, and while he is young, that is something that can't be magically improved that much. I wonder whether we can convert him into a fullback option down the line, but as a winger, he's bottom table material.
He would have to spend some serious time in the gym for that to be an option. I can’t recall ever seeing a premier league player who is less physically imposing. He gets swatted away with ease.
 

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Phil Jones and Dan James, the greatest players in United's history.

He's a squad player, and he'll improve.

We need to lower our expectations of what we expect of him at this stage of his career. Not all players are world beaters at 22. He's still in Championship mode and we need to either loan him out, or save him to bring off the bench for the next season or two and help him develop the technical aspects of his game.
He has zero technical ability. What is there to improve? Because he needs to basically just become good at football. He'll never be good enough. He is older than Mbappe ffs. This "he's young" shit is nonsense. He's as old as Ronaldo was in 06-07. He's 4 years older than Greenwood who is light years ahead of him.

I'd get rid.
 

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This thread title looks absolutely ludicrous.

His games need to be picked a bit more carefully. He's not a game changer at this level, but can do a good job coming on late against weary legs in games with either loads of space, or against weak opponents.
If he's not good enough to be a game changer, then there's no point hanging on. We're more than capable of replacing him with a better player.
 

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Still young and has time to improve and find his form.

Was a difficult match for him and he wasn't the only one underperforming.
 

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He would have to spend some serious time in the gym for that to be an option. I can’t recall ever seeing a premier league player who is less physically imposing. He gets swatted away with ease.
Yes, he's physically very weak atm, but physical strength can be built up over the years, and is an expected part of any young player's development. I'm just pondering honestly, because I struggle to see a long term future for Dan James at this club.
 

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He’s not good enough to be playing at PL level.
 

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If he's not good enough to be a game changer, then there's no point hanging on. We're more than capable of replacing him with a better player.
Not many teams have game changers on the bench.

We perhaps have Greenwood, who has mostly been starting recently.

City have a couple, but Liverpool don't have any.
 

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Amazing really that so much pace can be so ineffective
Technique, movement and IQ are much more important. The Ajax side that reached the CL semi's had 1 pacey forward: David Neres. The other players weren't necessarily pacey but they were clever and have good technique. Tadic, Van de Beek and Ziyech were highly effective despite none of them being particularly pacey.
 

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He's a squad player, and he'll improve.

We need to lower our expectations of what we expect of him at this stage of his career. Not all players are world beaters at 22. He's still in Championship mode and we need to either loan him out, or save him to bring off the bench for the next season or two and help him develop the technical aspects of his game.
At the very least, a loan. We should move on from him as he’s not going to cut it. He’s shown very little footballing potential.
 

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The "nepotism' is pathetic with this lad. He is only at United because Giggs made some phone calls.
 

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I think all of us got carried over by his goals earlier this season. He is nowhere near good enough to play for us and we should be looking for better squad depth.

Having said that, it’s absolutely atrocious the vitriol he is getting here. He has barely player since the restart and was suddenly asked to play up top - which is not his natural position - against Chelsea in a FA cup semi final.

Yes he didn’t play well ans yes he doesn’t have the ability but he is definitely NOT the reason why we lost today so stop this knee jerk reaction.
 

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Technique, movement and IQ are much more important. The Ajax side that reached the CL semi's had 1 pacey forward: David Neres. The other players weren't necessarily pacey but they were clever and have good technique. Tadic, Van de Beek and Ziyech were highly effective despite none of them being particularly pacey.
Yup, and sadly James is lacking in all of them. Add to that no real end product. Hopefully he improves but he needs a loan at the very least
 

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He's got nothing to his game when you take the speed away. His ball control almost makes Lingard look like a Premier League quality player.
 

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I heard/read somewhere he started professional football at a very late age. He is so predictable and defenders have worked him out. He has so much to learn at this level. Yes, a loan would benefit to a lower league. If we're keeping him he would just be an option when we don't have much of a choice.
 

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We'd be lucky to get £10m back and that would be based solely on him being a name. Got signed on the back of a season where he wasn't even a top 20 player in the Championship for nearly £20m and it's not like he's 18. Mason is light years ahead of him.
 

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Still young and has time to improve and find his form.

Was a difficult match for him and he wasn't the only one underperforming.
Not every young player becomes good. There is no quality at all there, this is a Bebe-like signing.

If he wasn't fast, he would not have been a footballer. Of course, pace is important, and that will give him a decent career and tons of money, but he will be out of EPL very soon.