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Keen. I'd lean more standard than crazy rules, but either way I would have fun. Was maybe going to set up one myself but I don't mind not being commish.
 

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Oh yea I’d prefer a standard system to be honest but if everyone else wants something different I’ll go along with that.
 

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PPR is the standard these days so I'd think everyone is okay with that? Has been like that in previous editions too. I'd suggest:

1 QB
2 RB
3 WR
1 TE
1 FLEX
1 K
1 D/ST

Could remove the 3th WR, could include another FLEX spot. I like deeper leagues because it's easier to make a difference in the later rounds, but I'm okay with whatever the majority likes better. Once we have 12 participants, we could make a new thread for fantasy purposes and maybe include a poll for league purposes, seems like the most fair way.
 

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The lack of alerts means that I was an afterthought. I'm in but my vengeance will be terrible.
 

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What's a superflex?

I'm definitely interested, don't really mind what the format is.
A PPR league where you start two running backs, three receivers, one tight end and a regular flex spot (RB/WR/TE), along with a kicker and DST. But you also start a Superflex spot (QB/RB/WR/TE) with a quarterback, which gives you the option of making this a two-quarterback roster if you want
 

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A PPR league where you start two running backs, three receivers, one tight end and a regular flex spot (RB/WR/TE), along with a kicker and DST. But you also start a Superflex spot (QB/RB/WR/TE) with a quarterback, which gives you the option of making this a two-quarterback roster if you want
That makes sense, cheers.
 

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Washington Football Team is an excellent name. So plain it angers the American fans. Upsets rivals. Saw a T-shirt in their colours that just said Football Team. It was odd but funny. It's like my missus who has zero interest in the NFL created it.

Hope the name is met with enthusiasm and becomes their name for years to come.
 

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Are people interested in a Redcafe league (one or multiple)? Could have a standard one or make it a bit of fun (superflex, 2QB, no K and D/ST, more FLEX spots, whatever). We could draft anywhere between setting up the league and Sep 10th (no preseason but obviously there would still be injuries during training camps).

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I'm in for sure. Prefer standard but not fussy. Just tag me when we are ready to go.
 

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What's with their backfield anyway. Peterson still there, Guice 'healthy', drafted Bryce Love in the 4th round last year and then added Gibson in the 3th round this year. You deserve to be shit with a shit name if you're not gonna offer any valuable fantasy RB.

Hopefully Haskins takes a step forward this offseason and can support McLaurin as a WR1, but not counting on it.
 
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I'm in for sure. Prefer standard but not fussy. Just tag me when we are ready to go.
Will do, cheers. 8 already in right now, let's see if we end up at 12 or perhaps 14.
 

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Mate, the number of Vikings fans who hate Kirk or are complaining that Zimmer got extended are ridiculous. How can they sit through guys like Ponder, Cassel, Bradford etc and be this annoyed by Cousins' level of play.
 

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Mate, the number of Vikings fans who hate Kirk or are complaining that Zimmer got extended are ridiculous. How can they sit through guys like Ponder, Cassel, Bradford etc and be this annoyed by Cousins' level of play.
They couldn't and still can't. Have you heard what Vikings fans have to say about these QBs? But there is a distance between thinking that he is better than these QBs and loving Kirk, you went on the other side of the spectrum here. :D
 

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They couldn't and still can't. Have you heard what Vikings fans have to say about these QBs? But there is a distance between thinking that he is better than these QBs and loving Kirk, you went on the other side of the spectrum here. :D
Then they should remember what it was like to have actually have bad QBs that deserve stick. Kirk is easily the best QB we've had since Favre, not to mention there have been basically no other options for the past 3 seasons other than trading away a ton of picks to move up and take someone early.

As for reasons to "love" a player, I don't mind being on this side of the spectrum. I also loved Ji-Sung Park even though he was never a top 10 winger in the world; loving a player isn't synonymous with me saying he's the best or anything. He's just a weirdo wholesome goofball who balls out, loved the guy since his "you like that" game against the Bucs.
 

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Then they should remember what it was like to have actually have bad QBs that deserve stick. Kirk is easily the best QB we've had since Favre, not to mention there have been basically no other options for the past 3 seasons other than trading away a ton of picks to move up and take someone early.

As for reasons to "love" a player, I don't mind being on this side of the spectrum. I also loved Ji-Sung Park even though he was never a top 10 winger in the world; loving a player isn't synonymous with me saying he's the best or anything. He's just a weirdo wholesome goofball who balls out, loved the guy since his "you like that" game against the Bucs.
Yet he isn't good enough and his cap hit means that the Vikings can't add the skill players and O-Linemen that he absolutely needs to win against above average opponents. People don't have a problem with Cousins, they have a problem with Cousins bring to the Vikings when you consider the fact that he doesn't elevate the offense while taking a substantial amount of resources away from the team, in particular since his contract his fully guaranteed. It's not his fault but as a Vikings fan, I don't think that the Vikings will do much with Cousins unless Kubiak find a way to make Cousins less relevant which is an issue when you are paid +30m per year in the cap era.
 

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Then they should remember what it was like to have actually have bad QBs that deserve stick. Kirk is easily the best QB we've had since Favre, not to mention there have been basically no other options for the past 3 seasons other than trading away a ton of picks to move up and take someone early.

As for reasons to "love" a player, I don't mind being on this side of the spectrum. I also loved Ji-Sung Park even though he was never a top 10 winger in the world; loving a player isn't synonymous with me saying he's the best or anything. He's just a weirdo wholesome goofball who balls out, loved the guy since his "you like that" game against the Bucs.
He's not bad enough to go and seek a replacement, but also not good enough to get you to a Super Bowl, which means you're gonna be stuck in this playoff contender mode but going out in WC round or Divisional round as long as he's at the helm. Your defense was great (on average) over the last few years, you had 2 great receivers, a reliable TE and one of the best RBs in the league, and then you need a difference maker at QB to get his team over the line. Cousins is a lot of things and he's a good, or certainly above average QB, but he isn't that Russell Wilson or even Dak Prescott kind of caliber.
 

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He's not bad enough to go and seek a replacement, but also not good enough to get you to a Super Bowl, which means you're gonna be stuck in this playoff contender mode but going out in WC round or Divisional round as long as he's at the helm. Your defense was great (on average) over the last few years, you had 2 great receivers, a reliable TE and one of the best RBs in the league, and then you need a difference maker at QB to get his team over the line. Cousins is a lot of things and he's a good, or certainly above average QB, but he isn't that Russell Wilson or even Dak Prescott kind of caliber.
People throw this around all the time about so many players, but it's just projection masked as fact. Why isn't he good enough to get us to a Super Bowl? Because he hasn't done it yet? That logic is faulty and too subjective, so really I'm not even arguing against your statement, but rather that we don't know if it's true. And you list a lot of things that others do (the "your team is so stacked so why doesn't the QB just take them to the promised land??" argument), but it's honestly not that simple. Do you watch the games? He makes fantastic throws under pressure, on the move, in tight windows, but we can't pass protect for shit, and our playcalls are either way too predictable or just bad attempts at trick plays. Also, I never claimed that he was Russell Wilson level, I just said I love the guy, this is getting too analytical for my throwaway comment :lol:
 

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Yet he isn't good enough and his cap hit means that the Vikings can't add the skill players and O-Linemen that he absolutely needs to win against above average opponents. People don't have a problem with Cousins, they have a problem with Cousins bring to the Vikings when you consider the fact that he doesn't elevate the offense while taking a substantial amount of resources away from the team, in particular since his contract his fully guaranteed. It's not his fault but as a Vikings fan, I don't think that the Vikings will do much with Cousins unless Kubiak find a way to make Cousins less relevant which is an issue when you are paid +30m per year in the cap era.
What do you mean by that? That he can't drag a team to the SB? That he isn't a top 5 QB? Surely those aren't the only players worth loving? Notice that you're making normal reddit talking points about Cousins, as if I said that he was this amazing world beater, when I didn't make any claims other than that he is the best QB we've had since Favre. You're kinda arguing with nobody here?
 

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What do you mean by that? That he can't drag a team to the SB? That he isn't a top 5 QB? Surely those aren't the only players worth loving? Notice that you're making normal reddit talking points about Cousins, as if I said that he was this amazing world beater, when I didn't make any claims other than that he is the best QB we've had since Favre. You're kinda arguing with nobody here?
I made a joke that you took seriously and then you brought past QBs and their levels. So don't play the "you are arguing with nobody" card, you tried to justify your love for him based on his level and criticized other Vikings fans for not loving him. You don't need to justify it but don't act as if he was good enough to be unquestionably appreciated.

And I told you what I mean by that it's in the following sentences.
 

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I made a joke that you took seriously
Oops my bad. I can't read people online.

So don't play the "you are arguing with nobody" card, you tried to justify your love for him based on his level and criticized other Vikings fans for not loving him.
I didn't criticize anyone for not loving him, I criticized the fans who hate him. Like, literally that's what I said.

You don't need to justify it but don't act as if he was good enough to be unquestionably appreciated.
I never said anyone should appreciate him unquestionably. I just said fans who hate him are ridiculous, which I stand by.

And since this all started from me misunderstanding your joke, I won't reply to your next comment, have the last say. My bad again for taking it seriously.
 

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Are people interested in a Redcafe league (one or multiple)? Could have a standard one or make it a bit of fun (superflex, 2QB, no K and D/ST, more FLEX spots, whatever). We could draft anywhere between setting up the league and Sep 10th (no preseason but obviously there would still be injuries during training camps).

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Okay that's 12. That's standard league size, I personally don't mind to go to 14 or even 16 but we'll see in the dedicated thread once it becomes a possibility.
 

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That’s a lot, but think Adams might be worth it in the long run.

Why aren’t they resigning Clowney though? Could be building a serious contender if they do with a top 5 defender in every line and a top 5 QB.
 

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Would have liked Adams but not at the cost of that trade . Madness
 

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That’s a good deal for the Jets getting two firsts. It could bode well for them, though it might be the next coaching staff reaping the benefits.
 

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That’s a lot, but think Adams might be worth it in the long run.

Why aren’t they resigning Clowney though? Could be building a serious contender if they do with a top 5 defender in every line and a top 5 QB.
Don't think they have enough cap space and they signed too many other players to deals.
 

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That’s a lot, but think Adams might be worth it in the long run.

Why aren’t they resigning Clowney though? Could be building a serious contender if they do with a top 5 defender in every line and a top 5 QB.
Yeah, it's a lot but I'd rather have a proven star than those picks, especially given how woeful our first round picks have been in recent years.

On Clowney, we made an offer early on but he was after a lot more and we've used up too much cap space now. Reckon we'll try to pick up Everson Griffen instead.
 

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Adams is good but this is madness specially considering they will have to pay him soon too
Yeah, this is a 2018 Rams type move, all in for basically one season before contracts feck the team, except I didn't figure that the overall Seahawks roster was that good.

Yeah, it's a lot but I'd rather have a proven star than those picks, especially given how woeful our first round picks have been in recent years.

On Clowney, we made an offer early on but he was after a lot more and we've used up too much cap space now. Reckon we'll try to pick up Everson Griffen instead.
The longer he's unsigned the more I hope we can get him back somehow. I can't believe we lost my two favourite players on the team (him and Diggs) in the same damn off-season.
 
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