Rooney vs Solkjaer - Who's the biggest club legend?

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Rooney is obviously a better player, but Ole is easily the bigger legend for me. I don't understand why legendary status are based on statistics? Judging by that Chicharito is bigger legend than Rio Ferdinand.

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At least get the spelling of the legend's name right before asking the question. It's Solskjaer.
 

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Solskjaer won the same things more. Ole has six premier leagues, Rooney has five. Ole won the treble, Rooney didn't.

Yes Rooney is our top scorer but that's pretty much only cos Moyes saddled us with him when he was past it.

Honestly, ever since 2010-11 Rooney hasn't been for me. Putting out statements about ambition before a Champions League game, questioning Sir Alex. Nah, he's not for me.

Will never question Rooney's achievements, and will remember a lot of them fondly. Ole will always mean more to me though.
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Rooney won 3 leagues in a row including a league and CL double and was a main and key player in the starting lineup in them. Honestly him alone being our top goalscorer ever put him ahead of not just Ole but many other of legends too imo. I won't go through the individual awards by the way, that are listed in the OP.

Rooney was our best player in Moyes season and LVG's first season, so I don't get the idea about him being totally past it by then. He only declined massively since LVG's second season. Without him, I don't even know how LVG's first season would have went, he was our only good attacking player upfront in it alongside Mata.

He questioned our transfer policy which he was right about by the way, and it showed on as the years went they we were taking very wrong steps in transfer market. He did this because he was worried about the direction we were going in and wanted the best for the team.

The second transfer request was a myth that doesn't want to die :

"I went in to see him (Ferguson) and just said ‘if you are not going to play me then it might be better for me to move on,'” he states in the BBC documentary to mark him becoming England's all-time top goal scorer.

"Then, all of a sudden, it was all over the press that I had put a transfer request in which I never did. I don’t know what happened, why that came out that way."
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DWelbz19 said:
Rooney and it’s not close at all. Rooney is a top 5, at worst.
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Debatable.

Sir Bobby and Giigs are the top 2 IMO. After them, there is a bunch of players who can make into top 5 such as Law (Ballon D'Or while playing for us, many titles), Best (Ballon D'Or and best player in the world while playing for us), Robson, Keane, Cantona (the symbol of United's resurgence), Scholes, Rooney and possibly Ronaldo (Ballon D'Or with us). This would be my top 10, but it is so much harder to do the top5. Maybe Robson, Keano, Law and Ronaldo miss there, but then it means that one of Best, Scholes, Cantona and Rooney miss too, and whoever is that player, it is very harsh.
 

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Rooney had his goals, great games, records, legendary squads 06/07 and 07/08, other great squads, trophies and awards. Also arguably a rare young talent and captain post-saf.

Ole had his 99 final moment, legendary 99 squad, reputations and manager career with us at first team and youth levels. His manager career is ongoing so will improve his standing.

Both are in the same tier for me, and those legends in the same tier cannot be categorized which one is the "bigger" legend. Irrelevant.

Before Ole became our manager, easily Rooney.
 

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I don't know, whom do you really mean by a Legend. Because if you need to look in terms of quality then certainly Tevez and Ronaldo should be in that bracket. And we all know how they went.
But to me a legend is a person who is remembered with pride and certain feeling of association.
And if I go by that criteria then I'd say Ole in a heartbeat. Gave 120 percent every time he was on the pitch. Never complained. Gave all his life to united when he could have had a decent career somewhere else.
Rooney, although wonderful player had his mad feck moments. Like when he asked to leave (can never forget that). And then he overstayed at the end of his career. He was shite in last 2 to 3 seasons.
Definitely a better player than Ole but doesn't bring a smile like Ole Does
 

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Ole seems like the better man.
But Rooney was definitely the better player
 

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Ole. Very simple. Rooney was top footballer but anyone scoring that goal by Ole is automatically a legend
 

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Rooney for me. Much more of a driving force of a player, taking centre stage.

Ole is absolutely catching up with his managerial exploits as of late but he still hasn't ultimately achieved anything concrete on that side of things yet.

Edit: Cliche as feck, but I'd rather go to war in the name of United with Rooney by side as of now. We're winning more battles.
 
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el3mel said:
Rooney won 3 leagues in a row including a league and CL double and was a main and key player in the starting lineup in them. Honestly him alone being our top goalscorer ever put him ahead of not just Ole but many other of legends too imo. I won't go through the individual awards by the way, that are listed in the OP.

Rooney was our best player in Moyes season and LVG's first season, so I don't get the idea about him being totally past it by then. He only declined massively since LVG's second season. Without him, I don't even know how LVG's first season would have went, he was our only good attacking player upfront in it alongside Mata.

He questioned our transfer policy which he was right about by the way, and it showed on as the years went they we were taking very wrong steps in transfer market. He did this because he was worried about the direction we were going in and wanted the best for the team.

The second transfer request was a myth that doesn't want to die :
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You love Rooney. That's fine. You are free to like who you want. Rooney just ain't for me and I am happy to trust Sir Alex's statements.
 

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This Solskjaer could have joined Spurs is the most stupid thing I've heard in Caf. I mean, they were fecking Spurs, a midtable club. He probably would have also earned less. And they were such a joke that Fergie's grand pep talk was 'Lads, is Spurs'. That's it. It is like saying Rooney could have joined Wolves but he stayed at United. In fact, at his peak, Rooney could have joined almost any club in the world, the likes of Moratti or Perez would have loved to sign him. Sure, he flirted once with the City (though that might have been to get some extra money) but he gave his best years to United, while he could have gone to equally big clubs. Ole had never that chance of being tempted from the big clubs.
 

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#07 said:
You love Rooney. That's fine. You are free to like who you want. Rooney just ain't for me and I am happy to trust Sir Alex's statements.
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Nothing really to do with loving him or not. I don't like many of the quotes he says to the media actually, but as a player he has always been getting a lot of bizarre and undeserved stick imo. He's a top United legend, no doubt about that.
 

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I would also say that Ole did more to put the club on the map globally. The treble was special.
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Rooney didn't have the possibility to put United on the map globally as they were already on the map when he joined.
He did have a much bigger status in world football though.
 

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WTF is his thread. No one not even OVS would state OGS was a better player than Rooney.

That doesn’t mean OGS wasn’t a huge part of our history.
 

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Solskjaer features prominently in probably United's greatest moment.

Rooney contributed more overall, so it depends how you categorise one being more legendary than the other.

Its similar to saying who's more legendary for England, Geoff Hurst or Jimmy Greaves...?
 

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The quality gap between the two is undeniable. But if we're talking legendary, for me Ole takes it. I wouldn't argue the point too strongly though. Had Rooney no wanted to leave (twice?) he'd have taken it.
 

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Teddy or Wayne? He scored the equaliser and created the winning goal.
I mean Wes Brown won more than Ole did as a player. When a player is the player who has scored the most number of goals for his club and country you are a legend. He may not be a likable chap but this question of Rooney vs Ole is stupid.
If Ole wins the treble he becomes a legend as a manager and not as a player.
Why can't people differentiate between the player and the manager?
 

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Rooney was without a doubt the better player. A proper legend in my books. The only downside for me was the flirting with other clubs.

It’s Ole for me. Perfect loyalty to the club all his career.
 

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I like that the OP was not a bizarre and overreaching, convoluted argument trying to argue an insane position.

Rooney.
 

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drmuji said:
I don't know, whom do you really mean by a Legend. Because if you need to look in terms of quality then certainly Tevez and Ronaldo should be in that bracket. And we all know how they went.
But to me a legend is a person who is remembered with pride and certain feeling of association.
And if I go by that criteria then I'd say Ole in a heartbeat. Gave 120 percent every time he was on the pitch. Never complained. Gave all his life to united when he could have had a decent career somewhere else.
Rooney, although wonderful player had his mad feck moments. Like when he asked to leave (can never forget that). And then he overstayed at the end of his career. He was shite in last 2 to 3 seasons.
Definitely a better player than Ole but doesn't bring a smile like Ole Does
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Do you not see the contradiction and double standard in one of your definitions?!
 
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