No but he did join the club the same time that Hazard left, Pulisic signed in January.
Frank Lampard | Former Chelsea manager
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Realistically speaking: Frank did very well considering what he had and he made it to top 4 comfortably. He deserves respect for it.
If both him and us are well-supported in the summer and the title race is between Chelsea and United - I am gonna be very happy
Would be much nicer and more entertaining than watching another season of City vs Pool bullshit
If both him and us are well-supported in the summer and the title race is between Chelsea and United - I am gonna be very happy
Would be much nicer and more entertaining than watching another season of City vs Pool bullshitThey actually managed to spend £100m whilst being banned!
He lost 12 times in the league this season. 12 times. I still maintain my opinion that he got bailed out massively by Giroud and Pulisic, the former is the difference between them and us, they had a veteran striker ready to step in with their starter was misfiring.
Job well done for Lampard, and some intriguing signings already in the bag.
The big doubt with him is the ability to organise a defence. People talk about Kepa being shit, and he is, but the problem goes deeper than that. They need a commanding centre back and I'd be surprised if they didn't try to sign one
The big doubt with him is the ability to organise a defence. People talk about Kepa being shit, and he is, but the problem goes deeper than that. They need a commanding centre back and I'd be surprised if they didn't try to sign one
Their defence is a shambles and they have gotten lucky with having more rest leading into the FA cup match against us. If the rest times were flipped United would have won comfortably. They conceded 54 goals this season! Don't listen to the delusional Chelsea fans, that defence will not be fixed in one transfer window and I do believe coaching has played a role in how leaky they have been (emphasis on only attacking play).
Yeah fair dues, point being we're in with a shout of having a better season overall. Not that I think this directly translates to Lampard > Ole, mind.
Good point, that slipped my mind.
Im torn between considering it a great acheivement (it is in fairness) and being beyond puzzled that they are 4th considering they shipped bucket loads of goals and were in a right mess at the start of the season.
Great acheivement I reckon?
Great acheivement I reckon?
Flexing much?
It is as good a starting XI because he proved he can work with young players with Championship experience, with no transfers and without our best players in Hazard. Don't forget this season Kante (our second-best player after Eden) was injured for half the season and the other half not at his best because he was in and out the squad.
Lampard made mistakes, but most of his mistakes came from trying to be proactive and take risks. That's a learning curve and he will only improve in the aftermath. After this season he will be more understanding of what he has and where he wants to improve, so my guess his next season will be even better.
Considering how his first game went, I think he’s done brilliantly. Wasn’t able to sign anyone and lost Hazard too. Could end up with a trophy too.
Probably the individual that had the biggest effect on their season was Kepa. He’s been the worst keeper in the league and cost them countless goals.
And you were bailed out by who? Bruno? VAR? or a lucky combination? You are definitely not more deserving of getting top 4 than us. And you were actually expected to be there at the start of the season compared to us.
Disagree. People rarely had either of United or Chelsea making the top four. Everyone had Spurs, City and Pool and it was a toss up for the 4th spot.
I hear this narrative a lot, that Chelsea were headed for a disastrous season after losing Hazard, transfer ban, inexperienced manager etc. But Chelsea is Chelsea, they will always be around top 4 or 6, it was Spurs that severely underperfomed after reaching the CL final last season.
We were bailed out by Moyes!
Kepa did have an impact, but their entire backline was shite as well. And it's amazing how they've spent a feckton on attackers but not on that back 4
He has done as expected. I never understood the need for people to vastly underrated the resources he has had at his disposal. Ole had a far tougher job and has done well to finish above Lampard
The window is not even open to be fair. It shouldn't be assumed they will sign nothing at the back.
Give it time!
In terms of big chances conceded we're like 2nd.
Not to say our defense is the best in the world, it isn't, but I think people are going to surprised as just how better it looks with a decent keeper in goal, look at the difference today made with merely one who did the basics right.
The disastrous season for Chelsea prediction was based on pure myth. Chelsea were not so poor that losing Hazard was going to sink them. People preffered to pretend that Chelsea's contingent of loan players, let alone the youth coming through were not good enough. Not to mention not taking adding Kovacic permanentely and Pulisic seriously.
We really were not. It's Spurs who were pegged as top 4 guarantees by punditry and the media.
I think he‘s done a very good job at Chelsea and is an intelligent no-nonsense type of person who has instilled a refreshing brand of football into Chelsea. If they can strengthen their defense, they‘ll be up there amongst the title challengers.
In some ways, just like our somewhat coincidental discovery of Rashford, this season has allied them to throw in some more of their talents with less pressure than usual at a club like Chelsea, which is giving them nice additions to their squads for the future.
In some ways, just like our somewhat coincidental discovery of Rashford, this season has allied them to throw in some more of their talents with less pressure than usual at a club like Chelsea, which is giving them nice additions to their squads for the future.
Go back to the prediction thread, very few had us above even Arsenal let alone in top 4, heck some people even had us below Everton.
The first two games of the season had people double down on the belief that we were completely screwed.
That was such a lazy prediction, despite making the CL final it was pretty clear Spurs were on a decline.
Exactly. He still had Pulisic available to replace Hazard and signed Kovacic and had so many more options than Ole all season long. He has done ok. FA Cup would be very nice though.
He has still lost 12 games, conceded over 50 goals and had to wait until the last day to scrape 4th with a vastly superior squad to the teams around him. Like so, so, so many more options.
He has obviously potential, but I think Leaguewise, he has achieved the minimum expectations, and like United, has done it with a very low points tally.
Three BBC pundits predicted us for top four and two were almost certainly being a bit biased due to their connection to us.
How could we be expected to be there more than you? We, apparently, have a PE teacher for our manager, we shipped out our only goal scorer and, according to many on here, our players are rubbish and are only good enough for the Championship.
I think people are talking crap about them having a far better squad than us.
They went into the season losing the best winger in the league. People have said Pulisic is the replacement, but he needed bedding in at first; also, he got injured a few times. People are looking at his form now and are making out that is what he has been like all season. No, it has been pretty recent where he has started looking like a promising replacement for Hazard.
They were relying on a striker (Abraham) who was playing at Derby last season, and Mason Mount. These two youth players who were finding their feet in the team and had never played a Premier League game. Giroud seems to suddenly being made out to be better than he is; he has his uses but has never been a prolific goal scorer - these are his past goal-scoring seasons: 4, 3, 2, 8 (this season). We have Rashford and Martial, who are pretty experienced also.
Jorghino, Kovacic, and Kante (albeit, he seems to have deteriorated) are good, but what are these amazing replacements they have? We have Matic, Pogba, Fernandes, and Fred.
Their defence isn't good. There is a reason Zouma was loaned out to Everton before. Azpilicueta has aged. Wan Bissaka, Maguire, Lindelof, Bailly, Jones, Shaw, Williams is a far better defence, in both depth and first team.
De Gea is much better than Kepa, despite his mistakes; I would say Romero is arguably better also.
I would say he has done well. Last season they got 70 points; this year 66 points. I would say the loss of Hazard is worth more than four points. If they had him, they would have exceeded last season's points total.
I think both teams need to up their game next season, though.
They went into the season losing the best winger in the league. People have said Pulisic is the replacement, but he needed bedding in at first; also, he got injured a few times. People are looking at his form now and are making out that is what he has been like all season. No, it has been pretty recent where he has started looking like a promising replacement for Hazard.
They were relying on a striker (Abraham) who was playing at Derby last season, and Mason Mount. These two youth players who were finding their feet in the team and had never played a Premier League game. Giroud seems to suddenly being made out to be better than he is; he has his uses but has never been a prolific goal scorer - these are his past goal-scoring seasons: 4, 3, 2, 8 (this season). We have Rashford and Martial, who are pretty experienced also.
Jorghino, Kovacic, and Kante (albeit, he seems to have deteriorated) are good, but what are these amazing replacements they have? We have Matic, Pogba, Fernandes, and Fred.
Their defence isn't good. There is a reason Zouma was loaned out to Everton before. Azpilicueta has aged. Wan Bissaka, Maguire, Lindelof, Bailly, Jones, Shaw, Williams is a far better defence, in both depth and first team.
De Gea is much better than Kepa, despite his mistakes; I would say Romero is arguably better also.
I would say he has done well. Last season they got 70 points; this year 66 points. I would say the loss of Hazard is worth more than four points. If they had him, they would have exceeded last season's points total.
I think both teams need to up their game next season, though.
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Well we finiished 3rd so did deserve it more.
Turns out it was Lampard who needed a Leicester collapse to qualify
Only Guillit got it right.
Three BBC pundits predicted us for top four and two were almost certainly being a bit biased due to their connection to us.
The Tottenham predictions
Three BBC pundits predicted us for top four and two were almost certainly being a bit biased due to their connection to us.
Just shows that these pundits are completely useless and only look at results and maybe got blended by them reaching the CL final. Their performance level was nowhere near top 3 last season
I agree
It's a marvel people still believe this bullshit that Chelsea were worse off than us
Come on. They still kept Willian and Pedro. Plus managed to convince Hudson-Odoi to stay, were getting Mount back from a successful loan in addition to adding Pulisic, who as a result was under no serious pressure to hit the ground running from day 1. They were not remotely understaffed let alone worse than us in that department.
It's only in the striker position in which one could say they had reason to worry. Since Abraham was untested and Giroud is Giroud. And batshuyayi simply still failed to work.
This just isn't true. His first half of the season was strictly disturbed by injury not performances. He was always going to be a good signing for them. He didn't need to look like a new Hazard to be a proper deal for them.
Chelsea's depth in midfield far outstripped ours this season. Barkley and Loftus-Cheek are more creative than all but 2 of our first team center midfielders. Yet they were able to add Gilmour and Mount to the mix.
I thing you are over looking 2 major factors:
1. Chelsea added players of about the same level to the defence. All versatille They literally had 2 line ups for their back line. Without any injury prone guys. That makes a huge difference
We in comparison had useless guys like Jones. Then useful guys like Bailly, Tuanzebe, TFM, Dalot and Shaw who had fitness issues all season long. The only advantage we had over then was a more solid starting defence. They had a flexibiity in selection we did not possess
2. Chelsea unlike us had a quartet of fullbacks who are all excellent going forward. That helped cover the multitude of sins at the back.
It's really in goal were our advantage was extreme.
Lampard had indeed done a good job. But he did not have a tougher job than ole. He had more options in his squad both at the back, in midfield and out wide on his bench. Whilst Ole was literally hanging on by a thread in the absence of key starters till the miracle named Bruno arrived.
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Good season for Frank. After losing Eden, having the transfer ban and deciding to blood so many kids, it could certainly have all gone horribly wrong. Instead he kept playing positive football, brought through some really good performances from the youngsters (Tammy, Mason and Reece must be particularly proud of their seasons) and got us a CL spot and a cup final.
The defense is a weird one. Rudiger is a damn good defender, Reece has been good, Azpi is class, but somehow it just hasn’t worked. Hasn’t helped of course that Kepa has been a disaster, but even so it seems defensive coaching/strategy is an area where Frank really needs to improve.
Excited for the 2 (hopefully 3) new attacking signings, but I’d be amazed if we didn’t have a top class keeper and potentially a strong CB come in too. Not expecting to be challenging next year as I think it’s a bit too early with all the new faces and a lot of the squad being so young, but incredibly excited for the next few years. Personally I’d be pushing for 2nd-3rd in the PL and a decent run in the CL next year and then contending for the title the year after.
The defense is a weird one. Rudiger is a damn good defender, Reece has been good, Azpi is class, but somehow it just hasn’t worked. Hasn’t helped of course that Kepa has been a disaster, but even so it seems defensive coaching/strategy is an area where Frank really needs to improve.
Excited for the 2 (hopefully 3) new attacking signings, but I’d be amazed if we didn’t have a top class keeper and potentially a strong CB come in too. Not expecting to be challenging next year as I think it’s a bit too early with all the new faces and a lot of the squad being so young, but incredibly excited for the next few years. Personally I’d be pushing for 2nd-3rd in the PL and a decent run in the CL next year and then contending for the title the year after.
Good post
Yeah its been a solid season for Frank and Chelsea. Getting top 4 despite the transfer bottleneck and considering the reliance on players like Mount, Kovacic, Abraham and James, one can't doubt his coaching acumen.
Imagine adding the Supercups on top of that
Fantastic achievement from Frank to take Chelsea from 3rd & Europa League champions to 4th.
Incredible. With an average age of just 26 and only 23 international footballers to choose from every week you can see why Paul Merson called for him to be awarded Manager of the Season
Disclaimer: I think Frank did OK. No more, no less
Incredible. With an average age of just 26 and only 23 international footballers to choose from every week you can see why Paul Merson called for him to be awarded Manager of the Season
Disclaimer: I think Frank did OK. No more, no less
when calling out other opinions as crap, should at least get the basic points right, I mean the factual ones.