Jack Grealish / signs new 5 year contract

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VDB will be signed within a day or two if we really want him so that wouldn’t be a worry. I think the club will try for Grealish first while working on Sancho. 50M + some add ons should do it really
Yeah that is exactly how I see it playing out because Grealish will be a much more complicated deal than VDB to do
 

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That is an insane fee and there is no way Villa are getting that for him.

What a joke. £80m should buy you a guaranteed experienced starter or a potentially world class young player. Not someone who helped keep a relegation candidate afloat with 0 caps and a questionable attitude.

If this is what Villa are signalling I would be absolutely appalled if I were Grealish wanting a move.
 

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80M? Hahaha even 50M would be too much.

Grealish has 1 season in the premier league, got good but far from great numbers, and is not even a english international. Why the feck would we pay that much for him?
See AWB then?
 

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Not if that player is someone like Lingard who could really benefit from playing for a team regularly again
We’ll sell Lingard for around 20-25m
So yes its steep
 

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If Grealish and Villa has a gentle man agreement wouldn't we have heard of it by now instead of this ridiculous 80m price?
 

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Indeed. Chelsea will probably pay less than that for Havertz.

With Villa escaping the drop, this deal is surely dead. Too expensive - we'll need to look elsewhere.
Reckon we will go all in for him after selling some players and try to meet somewhere in the middle with Villa, however if it doesn't work out then convinced VDB deal will be sealed within a couple of days of us walking away from Jack
 

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Everyone freaking out over the 80m figure rounding the internet. It's made up BS. The season just ended yesterday. Papers need something to write. Everyone relax. If Ole wants him, Ed will buy him.
 

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£80m are Villa dumb? Great way to say thank you to someone who’s carried them on his back.
 

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We should not pay anything over £50m for him. When someone like Van de Beek, who is younger and arguably better, is available for £40m, we'd be stupid to waste time and money on getting him.
 

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If Ole thinks so.
Grealish is way older. People don't seem to be thinking about how many years we'll get out of a £60-70m fee but I'm sure the club is consdering it.
 

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Think he'd have to kick up a stink to get the move, which I can't see him doing at Villa.

Shame, would be a great addition at around £50m.
 

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Grealish is way older. People don't seem to be thinking about how many years we'll get out of a £60-70m fee but I'm sure the club is consdering it.
Older but not old. And I didn't know that a 21 y.o. RB suppose to be more expensive than a 24 y.o. CM/ACM. Similar profile, and the later is a leader as well.
 

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I think he'd be great buy if we can get him for a fair price, around 60 million. Him and Sancho, and we'll have an incredible options for years to come. But Sancho should be a priority, and after that a CM.

He'd also instantly be our most handsome player.
 

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Think he'd have to kick up a stink to get the move, which I can't see him doing at Villa.

Shame, would be a great addition at around £50m.
We will see over the coming weeks but still expect this to pick up again after Sancho deal gets all sorted, whether it will result in us signing Grealish or opting for the easier deal in VDB I couldn't call it right now
 

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I mean, what do people expect Villa to say?

The market is totally different now. Just another sign we'll be talking about this until October 11th at the earliest.
 

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See AWB then?
AWB is a top RB of the league, was 21 years old and English international. He's a top 3 english RB at least, and thats counting TAA who is a phenomenom. Grealish is not even top 5 in his position.
 
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Still fact though? He's an international with CL experience. Grealish is neither.
That’s ridiculous and you know it. Lots of crap players have international caps and have played in the CL for poor sides. Doesn’t mean a thing.

Our Captain hasn’t even played in the CL.

Fred is 27 and has only played 11 times for his country, that tells you something.
 

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Older but not old. And I didn't know that a 21 y.o. RB suppose to be more expensive than a 24 y.o. CM/ACM. Similar profile, and the later is a leader as well.
One is a starter and the other will be expected to come off the bench. He's also nowhere near as good, relatively-speaking, as Wan-Bissaka.

To top it all off, we have a different financial climate and there's also cheaper options who are arguably better. Arsenal are scoffing at paying £50m for Partey and Van de Beek can be had for less with less hassle.

I don't see why people are so stuck up on Grealish.
 
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If Grealish and Villa has a gentle man agreement wouldn't we have heard of it by now instead of this ridiculous 80m price?
If there’s an agreement, it wouldn’t have been for a specific price. It will be “you can leave, as long as it’s a decent offer”. Villa still want to get the best price for him. The season only finished yesterday.
 

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That’s ridiculous and you know it. Lots of crap players have international caps and have played in the CL for poor sides. Doesn’t mean a thing.

Our Captain hasn’t even played in the CL.

Fred is 27 and has only played 11 times for his country, that tells you something.
It's not ridiculous as it's true.

You can't price up Grealish based on Fred. It's that that's ridiculous, not me stating facts.

Kepa was bought for £75m. Does that mean Henderson is worth £100m?
 

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We would be absolutely stupid to spend 95m on Sancho and 65m on Grealish. Especially Grealish who plans on warming on the bench.
 

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I don't really believe those prices bandied about. There is no club in the world that will pay 80m for him, nor 65m. Zaha seems to be available for 40m - while only a year or so ago they were talking about +100m for him (or something ridiculous).

If Spurs went for Grealish I could see them getting him for 35-40m. There's of course a United-tax applied when clubs deal with our transfer committee expert panel geniuses.
 
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It's not ridiculous as it's true.

You can't price up Grealish based on Fred. It's that that's ridiculous, not me stating facts.

Kepa was bought for £75m. Does that mean Henderson is worth £100m?
The fact Fred has a handful of caps means sweet FA.

and of course players who have been bought previously have an effect on prices today. It’s not exactly linear but there’s clearly an influence. You are all over the place with your comparisons.
 

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One is a starter and the other will be expected to come off the bench. He's also nowhere near as good, relatively-speaking, as Wan-Bissaka.

To top it all off, we have a different financial climate and there's also cheaper options who are arguably better. Arsenal are scoffing at paying £50m for Partey and Van de Beek can be had for less with less hassle.

I don't see why people are so stuck up on Grealish.
I just think he is very capable of making that step up to the next level and reckon we could see an even better player than the one at Villa because he would have more talent around him here. I also think he realises there will be competition for places and is more than ready to accept that challenge in fact he will relish it in my opinion. I could see him making a real difference in important games and definitely strikes me as a leader on the pitch.
 

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One is a starter and the other will be expected to come off the bench. He's also nowhere near as good, relatively-speaking, as Wan-Bissaka.

To top it all off, we have a different financial climate and there's also cheaper options who are arguably better. Arsenal are scoffing at paying £50m for Partey and Van de Beek can be had for less with less hassle.

I don't see why people are so stuck up on Grealish.
Grealish is nowhere near as good as Wan-Bissaka - did I read that right? Relatively speaking, Grealish is a better player and it is not at all close.
 

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I just think he is very capable of making that step up to the next level and reckon we could see an even better player than the one at Villa because he would have more talent around him here. I also think he realises there will be competition for places and is more than ready to accept that challenge in fact he will relish it in my opinion. I could see him making a real difference in important games and definitely strikes me as a leader on the pitch.
I agree he's good and might add to the team but the money being mentioned is a bit stupid. We also have glaring holes in CDM, RW and potentially CB (especially if one of Lindelof/Maguire gets injured) which need more immediate attention and we know we do 2-3 deals max a year. Sancho is one, so I'd prefer we get a CDM or two other easy deal.

Grealish is nowhere near as good as Wan-Bissaka - did I read that right? Relatively speaking, Grealish is a better player and it is not at all close.
Obviously not. I am talking about in terms of rankings in their respective position, not actual footballing ability of which Wan-Bissaka has little IMO. Grealish is not a top 3 in his respective position in the league though and Wan-Bissakka is in his.
 

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I believe he would massively add to the team but I reckon the numbers being thrown around are a load of bollocks considering Villa just sacked their Sporting Director. So where is the price tag coming from?
 

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It's Grealish's own fault for signing a bumper new contract - he's shot himself in the foot there.
 

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Do many of us really want this lad? I don't think we should be spending any decent chunk of our transfer budget on him, I really don't.

At full strength he doesn't get into our starting 11. Okay he adds much needed depth, but for £80 million!? No chance. I'd take him for tops £40mill.

Not sure if many of us actually want the signing to happen? Would be interested to see a poll on whether we would prefer to sign Grealish or spend the money elsewhere on the squad.
 

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Obviously not. I am talking about in terms of rankings in their respective position, not actual footballing ability of which Wan-Bissaka has little IMO. Grealish is not a top 3 in his respective position in the league though and Wan-Bissakka is in his.
There being other quality creative midfielders and a comparative lack of quality right backs in the league doesn't make Wan-Bissaka a better player. Grealish is closer to the top two in his position than Wan-Bissaka is in his.
 

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There being other quality creative midfielders and a comparative lack of quality right backs in the league doesn't make Wan-Bissaka a better player. Grealish is closer to the top two in his position than Wan-Bissaka is in his.
Completely disagree. Who's better than Wan-Bissaka in his position except TAA?
 

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Why have people started shitting all over Wan Bissaka all of a sudden?

Because he doesn’t put as many crosses in as one other right-back he’s no use? feck off.
 
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