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Big loss for the Europa league campaign.
No wonder we've looked devoid of ideas for chunks of the season then.These shows how important he is to the team. Everything goes through him. It's basically give the ball to Luke Shaw.
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Largely when Shaw has been injured... are you starting to see his importance yet?No wonder we've looked devoid of ideas for chunks of the season then.
You are right. His back-ups aren't up to scratch, and it does show when he is unavailable.No wonder we've looked devoid of ideas for chunks of the season then.
He's out till next season. I would think he has torn ligamentsI hoped he would be back. Shame. Do we know the nature of the injury?
He's got a left-foot which for some strange reason is important to many, other than that no.Largely when Shaw has been injured... are you starting to see his importance yet?
I'd take Brandon Williams with a broken leg over Shaw so respectfully disagree.You are right. His back-ups aren't up to scratch, and it does show when he is unavailable.
So, even thoiugh all of our play goes through him and his injury was one of the main reasons behind our drop in form, you're still unwilling to give him the credit he deserves?He's got a left-foot which for some strange reason is important to many, other than that no.
I'd take Brandon Williams with a broken leg over Shaw so respectfully disagree.
We've struggled so badly with Williams because we need width on the left so Rashford can come inside. Shaw provides this, Williams wants to come into the middle onto his right foot and closes spaces down. He would be fine if we had Giggs on the left wing with chalk on his boots running at defenders and getting crosses in but we don't. We have a player who wants to be given the ball and run into a crowd of players in the middle and shootHe's got a left-foot which for some strange reason is important to many, other than that no.
I'd take Brandon Williams with a broken leg over Shaw so respectfully disagree.
Think Ole picking the same team, and a physical/mental tiredness building because of it, and playing mostly against sides that didn't have anything to play for so could play with freedom was as much to do with any drop in form as the absence of any player.So, even thoiugh all of our play goes through him and his injury was one of the main reasons behind our drop in form, you're still unwilling to give him the credit he deserves?
Williams is a work in progress. There’s plenty to admire, not least the strength of character to not allow errors to affect him.Williams is fine, Shaw will be ok in September so nothing to fear really.
There's not much point having a left-footer at LB to provide width if his crossing is so poor, and it is, and I cringe when I see him come inside to have a shot as his shooting is even worse than his crossing. In short he offers nothing going forward, and that's just not acceptable for a Manchester United fullback who should be an auxiliary winger. And don't get me started on his positional sense defensively with and without the ball ....We've struggled so badly with Williams because we need width on the left so Rashford can come inside. Shaw provides this, Williams wants to come into the middle onto his right foot and closes spaces down. He would be fine if we had Giggs on the left wing with chalk on his boots running at defenders and getting crosses in but we don't. We have a player who wants to be given the ball and run into a crowd of players in the middle and shoot
Theres a big difference. Luke Shaw stays wide, or gets forward wide which provides much more room for a player who wants to run towards the middle with the ball like Rashford. If Williams has the ball and he doesnt want to be wide, so he's already inside on his right foot theres a lot less room for Rashford or Martial pulling to the left to run into. With Shaw the end position tends to be that he's in the left wing position far forward and then instead of crossing, we go the old Arsenal way and play a pass to Rashford or someone a bit deeper who then runs the ball into a central position. Thats our tactic and why we have scored so many goals from range this season, we are purposefully building our attacks to end up with room for Rashford/Greenwood/Martial to come inside and get a shot in. They're all capable and its what all of them want to do so we're maximising it.There's not much point having a left-footer at LB to provide width if his crossing is so poor, and it is, and I cringe when I see him come inside to have a shot as his shooting is even worse than his crossing. In short he offers nothing going forward, and that's just not acceptable for a Manchester United fullback who should be an auxiliary winger. And don't get me started on his positional sense defensively with and without the ball ....
I don't think he stays wide under instruction more he knows if he comes inside he's more likely the higher up the pitch he goes that he'll have to use his wrong foot eventually, and it's his reluctance to use his weaker foot that is holding him back, he's just too predictable, at least with Williams he keeps his direct opponent honest.Theres a big difference. Luke Shaw stays wide, or gets forward wide which provides much more room for a player who wants to run towards the middle with the ball like Rashford. If Williams has the ball and he doesnt want to be wide, so he's already inside on his right foot theres a lot less room for Rashford or Martial pulling to the left to run into. With Shaw the end position tends to be that he's in the left wing position far forward and then instead of crossing, we go the old Arsenal way and play a pass to Rashford or someone a bit deeper who then runs the ball into a central position. Thats our tactic and why we have scored so many goals from range this season, we are purposefully building our attacks to end up with room for Rashford/Greenwood/Martial to come inside and get a shot in. They're all capable and its what all of them want to do so we're maximising it.
We dont have a number 9 who wants loads of crosses so he can outjump the defense and head the ball in. So even if we had Baines swinging in great crosses, we'd still do better passing the ball around and getting the shot away from deeper. This changes when Ighalo is on the pitch instead. Then we do have the target for crosses so yes, having a really good crosser from left back would be much more useful at that point
I dont think you're quite understanding. Its good that he's predictable and causing someone to come back to the left wing position that he's taken up, so he can pass the ball back to Rashford or Martial and they aren't double marked immediately. If Shaw was playing that pass from behind up to Rashford, instead of playing it back, then Rashford wouldnt have anywhere near the same room to do what he wants to do.I don't think he stays wide under instruction more he knows if he comes inside he's more likely the higher up the pitch he goes that he'll have to use his wrong foot eventually, and it's his reluctance to use his weaker foot that is holding him back, he's just too predictable, at least with Williams he keeps his direct opponent honest.
If we need somebody that is predictable we hit the bloody jackpot with Shaw.I dont think you're quite understanding. Its good that he's predictable and causing someone to come back to the left wing position that he's taken up, so he can pass the ball back to Rashford or Martial and they aren't double marked immediately. If Shaw was playing that pass from behind up to Rashford, instead of playing it back, then Rashford wouldnt have anywhere near the same room to do what he wants to do.
It would be bad if we wanted our left fullback to take his man on and beat him and put a good cross into the box. Thats not how we play with Martial as our striker. We are set up to do what he does well, not what he doesn't.
If we bought a standard #9 more like Lukaku again for a lot of money then it would be a bad thing. Thats not our plan A anymore
When you know where a player is going to be and in an attacking position, obviously someone needs to be standing there making sure he doesnt just have a free run past and towards goal. So that pins the RB into position for if Shaw knocks the ball past him. So that player cant be doubling up on Rashford as soon as he gets the ball ready to dribble and shoot.If we need somebody that is predictable we hit the bloody jackpot with Shaw.
I gather you don’t rate him. And you prefer Williams. I’m glad you’re not picking the team.If we need somebody that is predictable we hit the bloody jackpot with Shaw.
Was having a conversation the other day about the most underrated player in our squad.
My choice was Luke Shaw.
Christ. I'll bet you miss Ashley Young as well.He's got a left-foot which for some strange reason is important to many, other than that no.
I'd take Brandon Williams with a broken leg over Shaw so respectfully disagree.
He either hasn’t watched us and is an idiot or he has watched us and is an idiot.From Jonathan Wilson in his column at si.com: "Left back has been an issue for United for some time now, with the sense growing that Luke Shaw has never really recovered from the broken leg he suffered in September 2015."
You read that and you wonder if he's even watched United over the last two years.
I mean I guess I can kind of understand watching Shaw and thinking he just might not be good enough (I think he is, but we have some fans who don't think he is.) But to suggest that he hasn't recovered from that injury is just lazy journalism.He either hasn’t watched us and is an idiot or he has watched us and is an idiot.
Yes. It’s a stretch to call it journalism.I mean I guess I can kind of understand watching Shaw and thinking he just might not be good enough (I think he is, but we have some fans who don't think he is.) But to suggest that he hasn't recovered from that injury is just lazy journalism.
And i'm glad you're not my Ass. Manager (sticking out Tongue smiley)I gather you don’t rate him. And you prefer Williams. I’m glad you’re not picking the team.
I do mate, still cry myself to sleep every night.Christ. I'll bet you miss Ashley Young as well.
Too right. His body shape is alarming at times.He'd better come back fit, else...
He's pivotal to how we play. There's been a few of us have been harping on about it for agesIs it just a coincidence that we went tits since his injury OR he was the one who held things together for our best run
You mean actually having a left footed player playing on the left hand side, and not having to check back all the time. Yes modern science this football larkHe's pivotal to how we play. There's been a few of us have been harping on about it for ages