Have to admit I wish we were owned by one.
Nathan Ake (Close to signing for Man City, £40m fee)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
so 60-65m for Ake and Torres. I don't know a whole lot about Torres, I admit - but first glance, those aren't additions that will scare the opposition. Solid squad options, sure.
This. People talk about how much United spend in transfer fees vs City, but the real benefit of having unlimited money is the freedom to just move on players who don't work out.
Look at Mangala, Hart, Bony... they can just flog them for peanuts, whereas any other club has to get a reasonable price for their cast-offs (hence why we're still stuck with Jones, Smalling etc).
Have they signed Torres too? He would be a much better signing I think. Hopefully he ends up at United.
EDIT: Just realised you meant Ferran Torres. Sorry, I'm an idiot.
Ferran Torres, the winger.
I am glad we learned our lesson and don't do this anymore.
I mean each to their own, but I'm the opposite. If we were bought by Qatar or the Saudi's I'd never put another cent into the club, and might stop supporting altogether. Nothing would ever sit right with me again.
Pep's eye for a CB is average at best. Pique and Laporte the best out of a underwhelming and expensive bunch.
Ake and Ferran Torres, Seems their transfer standards are dropping or they looking for some bargains ?
OR they can only sign these type of players if they strictly follow FPP rules?
OR they can only sign these type of players if they strictly follow FPP rules?
Kinda annoying to see another player we lot go move to a top side.
Oh, look. A club that has a plan in place for the signings it wants to make, and then moves quickly to complete them. And for anyone saying that they have done that by paying over the odds, we take months to get a deal and still pay over the odds.
I think the thing is United can buy bigger than City (single transfers), if United wanted Ake I think they would have put up a fight, maybe there are bigger targets out there, of Lindelof is deemed good enough for the next campaigb.
City had a stroke of luck with Kompany who was a stalwart in defence and he's not replaceable for City.
As Pep said last pre-season.
Following the ban being quashed for CL:
City can't afford 80-90M transfers like United can, so they buy players for around 50M I think, and they depend more on the system.
They still work within FFP, but I genuinely think PSG with Mbappe and Neymar are the most broken with transfers.
The Torres and Ake signings kind of show that City really can't do those transfers like Sancho with UEFA looking over them (in my opinion) United can because they have the revenue stream to do so.
Ake is a great player but the signings they make at the back does show that fighting fair financially they are a tier below United.
Pogba, Maguire, Alexis, Sancho shows that.
True, Apart from 2007 summer (Tevez,Hargreaves, nani,Anderson) I hardly remember our guys doing swift business.
They can’t afford to sign a player for £80m but have no problems signing five players for £50m a piece. Has Pep borrowed Essien’s calculator?
I think Torres is an up and coming option and i dont think Ake will be a first choice, dont see them playing two Left footed centre halves. I just dont think pep wants stones or otamendi. They will sign another centre back to partner laporte
2018/19 with Fred, Dalot and Grant done before 4th July.
Our business in 2015/16 was done quickly too (Schneiderlin, Darmian Depay, Schweinsteiger), bar Martial but that one had to wait as Monaco refused to sell until they lost the qualification for the CL.
Might stop supporting them
Not sure I could ever do that mate.. Once a red always a red.City have got a huge overall to do in the next season or two if this is the calibre they are going for, i'm really not worried.
They hit the jackpot with the spine of their team over the dominance will be nowhere near as easy to pick out the gems like Silva, Kompany and Aguero for reasonable prices.
They hit the jackpot with the spine of their team over the dominance will be nowhere near as easy to pick out the gems like Silva, Kompany and Aguero for reasonable prices.
I wonder who they might want for RCB. Presumably Ake is Laportes backup. Stones will be 2nd choice to whoever else they sign.
Transfer window wouldn't be a transfer window without Pep buying a CB.
You mean Garcia will be second choice? Stones will be sold
Peps quotes are completely shallow. He just says that to go against the perception that City are buying their way to trophies with money they didn't earn.
City can easily fork out 100m+ but so far they barely have because they seem to prefer quantity. I mean they've signed so many 40m+ players you completely lose count of them all because they burn to them so quickly.
The amount he has spent on Fullbacks and center backs is insane.
Stones is gone. Their options will likely be Laporte, Ake, Garcia and new CB/Otamendi.
Smalling is better than Ake. Thats all. Thats the post. We already have a better player on our books than the player they just bought.
They also don't need a drastic upgrade in quality, especially in attack while they still have de Bruyne, Sterling etc and Foden coming through, provided Aguero returns well. They do need a quality option in defensive midfield to replace Fernandinho and Guardiola is especially fussed about that position, so that's likely where they'll break the bank.
Those seem like good/great options for the centre back positions over the course of a season. Not sure what the situation with Otamendi is right now, but I thought he was a decent player?
And fullbacks like Joao Cancelo who disappear into whatever basement Pep locks them up in.
Keepers too.
Expect a massive bid for a Full back in the next few days, who everyone will hype up only for them to completely disappear 2 weeks into the season
Pretty crazy fee for what they are getting. I don't think these Covid discounts are going to apply, at least to transfers within England. I know Sane had them in a rough spot, but the price difference here does not come close to reflecting the disparity. Sane got 40.9m before add-ons so it will be curious to see how this deal is structured.
This makes me think this transfer season it may be wise to go poaching through Europe moreso than usual due to the disparity in TV money.
This makes me think this transfer season it may be wise to go poaching through Europe moreso than usual due to the disparity in TV money.
Which five players? Currently it would be around 60m for two. Also, obviously wages of such players will be way less.
Agree. This notion is the most blatantly transparent lie in football. Secondly, I've said this before but ten players in history have ever been sold for more than 80m. It is not commonplace. After that big money fees are almost always in the 50-80 category in recent years and City do this very regularly. It is such a weak attempt at pretending he is not the among the biggest spenders in Pl history despite not being there for long and despite de Bruyne sterling Silva kompany Aguero and fernandinho all being there already. Basically the spine of his success was already signed and he still spent like a madman and still does. He's a chequebook manager
They are capable of doing more transfers if they want to. They always act fast so not a surprise they are swiftly doing business in this window.
2017/18
Imagine if ED has to to 10 transfers in a single window (even you include IN's and OUT's)
2017/18
- Laporte £58.5m
- Mendy £51.75m
- Walker £47.43m
- Bernardo £45m
- Ederson £36m
- Danilo £27m
- Douglas £10.8m
- Harrison £3.6m
- Kayode £3.42m
- Ilic £2.25m
- Stones £50.04m
- Sane £45.45m
- Jesus £28.8m
- Gundogan £24.3m
- Nolito £16.2m
- Bravo £16.2m
- Moreno £4.95m
- Rulli £4.23m
- Zinchenko £1.8m
- Mari £180k
Imagine if ED has to to 10 transfers in a single window (even you include IN's and OUT's)
Thank feck we didn't get him
United lack common sense though. They handed out contracts to players like Rojo to protect their asset. The problem there is nobody wanted to sign him anyway so all we did was extend a wage burden. United could’ve done the same because selling for peanuts is infinitely better than keeping players so long they can’t sell them at all while continuing to pay them wages nobody else will.
I'd be slightly underwhelmed if United signed him, so I can't say I'm concerned about City doing so.
He's a back up for Laporte anyway surely? can't see them playing together.
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Ake probably starts for them to be fair. He’s better than Stones, Otamemdi & García.
Bit weird they have done this already knowing thats how much Bournemouth want.
They should be offering 30m, then 35m, and then 2 weeks before season starts and after pre-season, then agree the 41m. Its the way to go nowadays.
They should be offering 30m, then 35m, and then 2 weeks before season starts and after pre-season, then agree the 41m. Its the way to go nowadays.