You are delusional if you believe this deal won't happen beyond this August 10 deadline . This deal is happening get over it , I'll raise the stake further if this doesn't happen I'll stop Posting on here and if it is finalized after August 10 you can get the feck out of here with your incessant nonsense.
Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now
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Like handing out 30 million for a 17 yr old whilst paying him 60 grand a weeks for a few handful of games. And lazy is what you lot are, as you only buy youngster either proven or spoke about in those terms and have nothing to do with making them the players they become, but claim it anyway.
I know its hard for you given you're a german, but you're just a stepping stone for players and managers
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I don't want this deal to drag throughout the summer, But we know we like a saga though.
It's pretty obvious we do have a plan now.
Yeah, but come on, somewhere deep in your mind, you enjoyed it, didn't you?The irony.
All you have done is post ad nauseam in lazy cliches about how incompetent super rich Ed Woodward and Manchester United are and how well drilled Dortmund and Zorg or whoever it is are.
10 days and counting. We should get some joy out of this until its over. Exciting. And thats what all the muppetry is about.
Negotiating tactic.
Your very naive if you think this deadline will actually apply when there's around 100 million involved.
100 Million.
Fair enough. Neither do I.
I don’t think monetizing would actually be beneficial enough to make a business out of it.
These things seem to happen a lot though where there's a 'deadline' - I feel like i've already lived it.
The target returns to training with his current club.
Mild muppet suicide.
United brief through their usual Journos that they never were intimidated by a deadline and are continuing negotiations
Mild muppet revival.
Nothing reliable happens for a long time.
Talk of a fee agreed / medical date from iffy sources. Quickly denied by selling club. Date passes with nothing happening.
Final 2 weeks of the transfer window, Woodward comes back with a tan from the Bahamas. Things start happening.
8m? I wasnt aware. I do hope in any event that we dont pay a pre covid (full stadiums) price for him particularly when it appears there are no other clubs in for him.
Man alive he's so good. 20 yrs old
Why you are making all this effort to register in a United Forum and talk so much BS.
Spend your time on something useful.
Yup. Rightly so! Being the only club in for him we won’t get robbed this time!
Specially post covid. Simply based off proportions, financially they have been affected more then us. Might I also add, any reason to deny that claim went straight out the roof when they also invested a substantial amount on Haaland, Jude & Meunier already.
Edit: I also don’t believe in this deadline. Reality doesn’t work that way. You either really want and almost need, €120m. In which case you’ll wait for it. Or if time is truly of the essence and funds need to be received and redirected sooner then they will have to settle for less or terms that now seem more reasonable then they were willing to admit.
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Yeah it was 8 Million, but with the mentioned option for City.
I guess at this state its not to much to assume/imagine that Zorc wants the full 120 Million no matter what and already knows who they sign for some of this money. And if not, they just let Sancho play another season, got in mind that they will get lets say only 50-60 Million and have some transfer-targets in mind for this scenario too.
A season with Sancho, Bellingham (yeah at this point we have to wait and need to see what he is cabable of), Reyna, Haaland, Reus, Brandt, Can and so on could be great, its at least worth a "loss" of half of the demanded 120 Million now. Especially when you consider that next season likely more clubs are in for him.
Why would more clubs be in for him?
It's good we have a guy who has inside stories from Borussia.
That is an exciting team.i do agree.
I guess if Dortmund can sell now for a pre covid price but buy a replacement at same time for a price that reflects the current economic reality that hats off to them!
Can someone promise me that when we sign sancho they will make* one of those gifs where ole and a few players and Sancho are dancing around a burning car or something similar. Always really enjoy them, probably more than the actual transfers.
*If not make, then steal off reddit or twitter.
*If not make, then steal off reddit or twitter.
Haaland was last season (and fits into the budget plans of this, got nothing to do with money term now). Meunier came for free. Jude costs 23 Million, Haaland was 20 Million. So, 43 Million for the mentioned 3 players are a substantial amount for you? Genuine question.
If you look at Dortmund's model over the last 5 years, they have more or less spent what they get back. Their net spend is very low.
So this summer they have spent £43m but don't forget that Railola took 10m euros as a bonus to get Haaland there too.
Unless Dormund are not looking to invest in their team, they will need to sell this summer.
Pretty sure that's bs. Zorc will not refuse a good deal just because it comes in after the 10th.
It's like Gladston mk2.0. But with less knowledge and not so entertaining.
To genuinely answer, yes. I think after the pandemic happened, yours (and everyone else’s) financial budgets went out the window courtesy of all the lost revenues. 43 million will equate to a significantly higher value than the stated amount for a club’s stature like yours.
Here’s a genuine question for you, even though you’re not running your club so obviously just even as a fan, would you honestly keep Sancho for another year at the risk of making less money on a player you bought as an investment to begin with? Knowing fine well that investment won’t peak any higher then this summer?
Also - yes I know Haaland technically counts as a signing from last season but as I said, post covid your previous financial plan went out the window.
It depends. It could be that they have players in sight where they wanting to wait to see how they progress and buy them in one year. It could be that they got players in sight they would buy for a post-Sancho team but its only possible in one year cause of their contract or whatever, and so on.To genuinely answer, yes. I think after the pandemic happened, yours (and everyone else’s) financial budgets went out the window courtesy of all the lost revenues. 43 million will equate to a significantly higher value than the stated amount for a club of your stature.
Here’s a genuine question for you, even though you’re not running your club so obviously just even as a fan, would you honestly keep Sancho for another year at the risk of making less money on a player you bought as an investment to begin with? Knowing fine well that investment won’t peak any higher then this summer?
Also - yes I know Haaland technically counts as a signing from last season but as I said, post covid your precious financial plan went out the window.
There are a lot of factors you have to keep in mind. Next season Sancho has only one year left yeah, but it could be that the mentioned above option to only get 50 Mllion is also a favor of their plans cause they think more clubs are in for him looking for a bargain or are in another position or demand like now, Real, Barca, Liverpool, who knows. You also have to take into account that Götze and Schürrle and Toprak have left the club, leaving financial space cause at least Götze and Schürrle were players with high salarys. And that you got Reyna directly coming after Sancho, so that they could think "hey lets wait how Reyna steps up, so that we don't need to buy an exact replacement of Sancho cause we already got one, and therefor don't need sooo much money cause we only have to adapt this little screw here or there in the squad". I can't explain this through at this moment (cause of my aweful english and post restrictions) but i hope you get a glimpse of what i mean.
All i wanted to say is, that i wouldn't wonder if Zorc doesn't mind. They got plans for all scenarios, and just keep relaxed, having set a deadline (to stay in their plans, and yeah of course it can get a little bit later than that) and a sum, and if it doesn't happen then plan b comes in line. Now the ball is in Uniteds field, that is something a lot of people would agree on i guess.
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Sorry if that sentence hurt you, or something?
Cheers. But Sancho is still more important and nobody is getting him for a reasonable fee.
People pretending to be born during the Sneijder era.
Can't wait for this to go through. Not that it matters much, but I'm hoping it can be done sooner rather than later.
Lets hope it gets done quickly so we have time to move on other targets CB and DM are the 2 key areas for me Greenwood can rotatate with Martial and Igahlo for striker Sancho and James on the wing but we have very little to no cover for CB or DM
I watch some of his highlights again. I think he's brilliant. Such a natural dribbler and a great eye for a pass. He's probably not at Hazard's level yet, but i can see him surpassing him. And he's doing all of those at 20!
As if they are going to reject 100mil on the table on the 11th. They would prefer it faster as do most clubs but it's not up to them. As long as the window is open it can happen.
Back at the start of the season when all this "who are we gonna sign" nonsense started I said that we won't get Kane, we won't get Grealish and we won't get Sancho. I stand by that prediction. As always the chief exec/chairman/owner of the other clubs will say 'he's not for sale' and then eventually demand an outrageous price. The papers will be full of it all.... the twitterverse or whatever you youngsters call it will be full of it all, and United will end signing a couple of players from out of left field on or just before deadline day. The money men have already warned that there is not as much cash available as some people want to believe, and Woodward has repeated several times publicly that the transfer window will not be business as usual. I don't know if the youth team players are ready to step up... only the management team know that, and that will greatly affect how transfer targets are pursued.
So who are we going to sign? A left footed central defender? A right winger? A centre forward? A Director of football?? I don't know and nor do any of you. My wish, based upon the fact that I have been supporting United since 25th May 1963 (ask your fathers, kiddies) would be to get players who actually want to sign for then club, not just for the money. A Utopian ideal, perhaps, in this day and age but in my opinion essential if we want to engender the sort of team spirit we saw in years gone by.
So who are we going to sign? A left footed central defender? A right winger? A centre forward? A Director of football?? I don't know and nor do any of you. My wish, based upon the fact that I have been supporting United since 25th May 1963 (ask your fathers, kiddies) would be to get players who actually want to sign for then club, not just for the money. A Utopian ideal, perhaps, in this day and age but in my opinion essential if we want to engender the sort of team spirit we saw in years gone by.
It's like one of those transfer tweets that get google-translated and make no sense.
I know people are most likely gonna hound you here, like the few Leicester fans on here last summer that we won't get Maguire unless we pay 100 million or whatever it was. So I don't wanna talk about at what price Dortmund will sell Sancho.
But I would like to talk about this bolded part. What do you think will be so great even with all these players, including Sancho staying at Dortmund? No matter how good your team may be, ultimately we all know you're gonna come 2nd or below, with Bayern winning. Its almost become a joke now. Surely, even the big wigs at the club realize this. So what good is losing out on 50 million?
Wonder how his numbers compare to Hazard when he was the same age? I don't remember Hazard having the same sort of output at that age, might be mistaken.
Don’t reply to this troll, see his thread at newbie forum. Americans and their obsession with mindless stats. He wanted us to get Willian ffs. Another gold stuff he said, Rooney is not a generational talent (while admitting he wasn’t born at the time Rooney tore Euro 2004) and the funniest thing he said is that he never watched those players he mentioned, just highlights
League Only Stats
Sancho = 5,435mins, 30 goals, 38 assists
Hazard = 6,818mins, 16 goals, 22 assists
Sancho G+A per minute = 79.9mins
Hazard G+A per minute = 179.4mins
*Sancho is 7,433 days old. I used the same timeframe with Hazard which meant the final 3 games of the 10/11 season were removed as he was the same age on the 15th May 2011.
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I admire your commitment to precision!Is it me or are Dortmund fans becoming a bit precious? Is it the Haaland deal that makes them think they are so important or what? All this nonsense of artificial deadlines is so bizarre. They are at most Leicester level, they drive a hard bargain, but they sell, they are a selling club not some real power like Bayern.
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