Okay, you're more informed than I am, I haven't worn a mask in my life (the closest I got is having to wear a bandana while biking because it was -30C).
The mask debate
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I wore a mask (one of the heavier cotton ones) for the first time ever while exercising recently. It took a bit of getting used to. Can feel quite claustrophobic when you’re really working hard. Almost an anxious sort of feeling. It does pass though. I’m sure I’ll get used to it.
I’ve worn thick snoods which cover my mouth when snowboarding loads of times before but never had the same sensation.
In the construction industry I have had many jobs where you have to wear mask , goggles and ear protection all day only taking PPE off at tea breaks .Used to do 10 and 12 hour shifts too and never heard anyone moaning about headaches as it is part of the job . Seems like some people are just not happy unless they have something to whinge about . Just wear a mask ffs.
Even if it did I’d tell them to pull up their big boy/big girl pants and get on with it, the alternative is much worse than a headacheThey're required to wear cloth masks (not sure that's the right term, it's a thick fabric) at her school, so no surgical ones. It looks like this:
My missus' family is full of teachers and they all said the same thing, that it causes them headaches by the end of the day. You can dispute that all you want, I'll still believe them. I'm not arguing that masks in general cause headaches to people all around. You described it as an incredibly minor annoyance and I pointed out that that's definitely not true in certain circumstances. In general though, yes I agree, for most people they're just a minor annoyance if you only have to put it on for a small period of time when it's required.
So now you can't even complain about something anymore even if you're strictly following the rules? That's a new one.
Sorry but I find the whole question of not wearing a mask very irritating and selfish. There are more and more stupid reasons for not wearing them being spouted so maybe “headaches”’will be the next one I’ll be seeing going viral on Facebook
I hate them more than those who don’t wear masks at all.
Why is this even a debate? Wear the damn thing.
2 Stylists Had Coronavirus, but Wore Masks. 139 Clients Didn't Fall Sick.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/health/coronavirus-hair-salon-masks.html
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Right winger with no idea how evolution works. What a turn up for the books.
Almost as if there was a correlation between these two things? Maybe even causation?
NSW has hopefully got their outbreak under control. Only 12 new infections including 1 in quarantine today but mask wearing is being strongly encouraged anyway. Qld has 1 community infection from 3 idiots who lied to get across the border and then had contact with 1500 people before becoming symptomatic. 1 refusing to cooperate with contract tracing. Not a wise idea when the maximum penalty is a huge fine and a 5 year jail term. Victoria went to compulsory masks in public this week but we are waiting for a 2PM Sunday press conference from the Premier Dan Andrews. It could be stage 4 lock down.
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some distance into his timeline i found a retweet of phil greaves, one of the most insane people on the internet, responsible for this all-time classic:
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sadly all the best replies have been deleted, that tweet thread was a work of art. his replies to those remain
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Becoming a far right wing conspiracy social media hero must be very easy. It often seems hard to believe the people dropping those messages even believe in the crazy talk.
They seem to talk in some sort of gibberish code.
Decent film but hasn't aged well. If I had to tolerate Stanley Ipkiss in real life I'd likely break his legs. 6.5/10.
Anti-maskers biggest reason for not masking up is because they believe that if society agrees on wearing masks now and we are complaint with the government - when will the line be drawn?
They suggest that if we agree to masks now, we will agree to mandatory vaccination when the times comes.
To be honest, I'm not anti-mask for the most part... but they do have a good point. This might lead a slippery slope where they enforce vaccination.
I am 1000000% against this covid vaccine so I am worried. Lots of caf members here love the MSM so I know this will trigger a lot of you.
They suggest that if we agree to masks now, we will agree to mandatory vaccination when the times comes.
To be honest, I'm not anti-mask for the most part... but they do have a good point. This might lead a slippery slope where they enforce vaccination.
I am 1000000% against this covid vaccine so I am worried. Lots of caf members here love the MSM so I know this will trigger a lot of you.
Why am I not surprised?
No other vaccine is compulsory. What makes you think this one will be?
What are your reasons for not wanting a vaccine when one comes?
Sigh.
Can't wait til there's a vaccine and I can protect myself against eejits, I badly want to go on holiday again.
You realise Andrew Wakefield has been struck off, and his findings were fabricated and considered fraudulent.
I'm very interested as to why you're against a vaccine that won't be compulsory to have. I'd love to have it, but I won't be able to because of auto-immune problems.
I really find this compliancy thing a strange argument. Seatbelt wearing is compulsory, no-one minds that. Crash helmets are compulsory on motor bikes in the UK, everyone on a bike wears one. They are safety measures and so are masks.
I mean everyone already agreed to cover their private parts with cloth, so really they have no choice anymore on covering their face with cloth, too. MSM told me so.
The slippery slope of saving people from death despite their own idiotic and suicidal tenancies. Sounds like a plan.
All vaccines should be compulsory unless there is a genuine medical reason. Flu, chickenpox, covid etc etc
Fearing vaccines is less sensible than being a flat earther. At least with the later you don't directly harm and/or kill anyone else.
But they should be. Or at least in the sense that you have to have them to receive social security or send your kids to school/daycare. It just isn't on that people can risk other people's lives for such dangerous silliness.
Masks are now compulsory in Victoria and highly recommended in NSW. Yesterday is seemed like about 30% in the supermarket but less elsewhere. I carry one and wear it whenever social distancing is difficult (or there are lots of feckwits).
Sad.
Which is why I support mandatory vaccination. It is a pretty serious disease, and a lot of people who have auto-immune problems are dependent on the rest of society to not act in a selfish way. Unfortunately, I think this is gonna be a problem in many countries (especially in the US) with many people refusing to get the vaccine for strange reasons from 'mark of the beast', to 'Bill Gates microchip' to 'freedom yeah'.
The last time I had vaccinations was over 20 years ago, just for going on holiday to somewhere tropical. I ended up limping, in a neuro unit with spinal cord damage equivalent to an MS attack. I seem to develop a new auto-immune problem every few years now, the latest one is psoriasis. Prior to the neuro damage, I'd been able to have various vaccinations with no side-effects.
I'm just hoping that it doesn't become mandatory to show your vaccination card to gain entry to other countries - or at least, that people like me can get some kind of official exemption.
I didn’t realise that psoriasis Is an auto immune reaction @Penna. I’ve been breaking out in patches of it the last few years but still get my flu shot every season
I was watching the news and heard people complaining about how it’s confusing. I don’t get what’s hard about it. Put on a fricken mask if you’re going to be indoors or close proximity to someone where you can’t guarantee social distancing.
The best I’ve heard so far, I was in the queue to get in to the shop and in Scotland masks have been mandatory longer than England. Some bunch of Gipes used the excuse sorry we are English and we don’t have to wear masks to such and such a date. To try and excuse themselves from wearing masks.
A guy in the back. “Ha min ya fecking gipe, this is scotland ya daft cnut, if ya dinna want to wear a mask then feck of back to England”
I mean I have to wear glasses and go around the shop trying to breath in a manner that my glasses won’t fog up as bad. numpties can put on a mask for 30 mins.
The best I’ve heard so far, I was in the queue to get in to the shop and in Scotland masks have been mandatory longer than England. Some bunch of Gipes used the excuse sorry we are English and we don’t have to wear masks to such and such a date. To try and excuse themselves from wearing masks.
A guy in the back. “Ha min ya fecking gipe, this is scotland ya daft cnut, if ya dinna want to wear a mask then feck of back to England”
I mean I have to wear glasses and go around the shop trying to breath in a manner that my glasses won’t fog up as bad. numpties can put on a mask for 30 mins.
How are you carrying it around Wibs? An expert here yesterday was facepalming at the “public transport only” idea as that will mean people are taking it off and putting it on, often the same mask multiple times a day. Most people do this incorrectly and the mask could end up covered in potential virus if people are always using the same masks and tampering it with their hands constantly. Same with shops.
Surely they should now be doing studies where they randomly test the outside and inside of masks in the general public?
Yes, it's an autoimmune disease. Have you been diagnosed? For years I thought it was eczema until I saw a GP in Italy and asked for some eczema treatment. I started with alopecia when I was in my 20s, and it's all gone downhill since then!
https://www.psoriasis.org/research/science-of-psoriasis/immune-system
If you can tolerate your flu shot, I'm sure you should keep having it.
I have a specific pocket inside my jacket which I clean with sanitiser before heading out. I put the mask on (holding straps only) if required e.g getting out of the car going to the shops and then leave it on until back in the car, then dispose of it when home in the bin. All shops, restaurants and pubs have hand sanitiser that you have to apply before you go in so transmission by touch is low risk. IMO the main reason to wear them is to reduce transmission to others if you have covid in which case the barrier alone prevents much of the potential transmission. If I had to use public transport and do more than go to the shops 5 mins away and return I would probably have to have a better system I guess.
I don't think it is perfect but seeing how easy it is for it to get out of control again I'm happy to wear one even though the risk here in NSW is low. That said one of the two local supermarkets had a confirmed case shop there a week ago. Luckily we were there but 40 mins earlier. And we have no symptoms.
Hopefully it’s just eczema. Someone said in passing so I just assumed and didn’t bother with it other than getting lotions to put on. It’s only small patches on my foot and leg. It’s the leg I have damaged lymph nodes and my foot swells up so I don’t know if it’s a connection
Even if not perfect, I think if everyone treated it like you then it’d be a big help.
Sadly before getting laid off at the end of June, I had an extra part time job at the airport (to help pay for my June wedding that obviously didn’t happen) and the majority don’t. The majority are total and utter morons when it comes to how they handle their masks.
It seems a lot of things are being seen as auto-immune in origin as knowledge improves. My brother has had terrible psoriasis since childhood, I haven't but have had lichen and morphea, and connective tissue problems, again thought to be auto-immune but not understood. All power to the researchers and hopefully more and more things will be treatable and become 'diseases of the past'.