Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now

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I just want Friday to come now the waiting is the worst part my only question is how will it be announed ? As in will Sancho have had his medical or will he have it Friday or what ?
 

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Just wanted to point out that Juve were the ones who had to pay Raiola in that deal. They agreed to that clause when Pogba first joined them, that they would pass on a certain percentage of any future sale to his agent. Juve briefly tried to get us to pay it as well and we told them where to stick it as it wasn't anything to do with us. So we paid them the 89m that Pogba was worth and then they had to give something like 22m of that to Raiola.
Oh yes that’s right. Still, I don’t think we have a problem paying agent fees these days.
 

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No club will pay the quoted sums next summer knowing that in just 6 months you can secure his signature for free.
Real Madrid knew that but still paid a hundred million for Hazard. If he has another great season you can be guaranteed to have competition for his signature and that competition would raise his price meanwhile we pretty much guarantee top four and CL revenue by signing him.
 

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Real Madrid knew that but still paid a hundred million for Hazard. If he has another great season you can be guaranteed to have competition for his signature and that competition would raise his price meanwhile we pretty much guarantee top four and CL revenue by signing him.
To be fair that was pre covid. Real Madrid hadn't just made a 100-150m loss and even still many people at the time said they were nuts to pay so much with him only having a year left. Not a great example.

Let's just hope we get Sancho ultimately. I've always been wary of getting it done due to the pandemic and I hate all the back and forward stuff with transfers.
 

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Has this tweet been translated into anything meaningful yet?
£70m up front

£30m instalment

£20m based on achievements

Guaranteed £100m for a player they paid £8m for & actually benched a few times last season, they would be mad not to take that. This is a club who sold top players to their closest rivals for under £50m, so there is no reason they won’t take this. The longer it takes the less time they have for a replacement.

That fee buys Dortmund about 4 new starters
 

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To be fair that was pre covid. Real Madrid hadn't just made a 100-150m loss and even still many people at the time said they were nuts to pay so much with him only having a year left. Not a great example.

Let's just hope we get Sancho ultimately. I've always been wary of getting it done due to the pandemic and I hate all the back and forward stuff with transfers.
Agreed but one thing we have to know, I think clubs like Leicester and Dortmund do too, is that commercially Real Madrid and us operate in a different stratosphere to most clubs and our ability to monetize superstar players like Sancho and Pogba is unrivaled.

Basically I think having Sancho this year will give us more money than what we could save by walking away and having to fight off competition next year. Remember even if the fee is down he'd still demand more in wages and signing on fees. If the installments are manageable we should just seal the deal and concentrate on other important transfers.
 

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Honestly I feel this is dead in the water.
We have a wonderful habit of haggling over a few million only to be told to jog on.

Guess we will see in time
 

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Of course we know how much we have to spend. We have teams of accountants whose job is to set budgets, and once we've come to an agreement with Dortmund it's not a big deal to send the money.
Accounts don’t know how far we will go in a competition, whether or not gate receipts will come back any time soon and whether or not we’ll quality for CL football next year. As you can imagine, the monetary difference between those things happening and not are huge.

Ourselves and all other clubs won’t know the extent of how much this has cost us until it’s over.

Also, not a big deal to send the money? Like transferring some cash between accounts? Have you ever tried to buy a house? Imagine that but with a lot more scrutiny. Do you think banks just freely transfer £70m between accounts in one go without authorities being extremely interested in who’s getting what and what for? This isn’t someone sending a mate £10 for getting a round in last night
 
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Accounts don’t know how far we will go in a competition, whether or not gate receipts will come back any time soon and whether or not we’ll quality for CL football next year. As you can imagine, the monetary difference between those things happening and not are huge.

Ourselves and all other clubs won’t know the extent of how much this has cost us until it’s over.
They will make projections based on various scenarios, same as they would for any other business. We're not sticking a finger up and seeing which way the wind blows here and whatever figure we're happy to pay is whatever we know is safe for us.
 

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£70m up front

£30m instalment

£20m based on achievements

Guaranteed £100m for a player they paid £8m for & actually benched a few times last season, they would be mad not to take that. This is a club who sold top players to their closest rivals for under £50m, so there is no reason they won’t take this. The longer it takes the less time they have for a replacement.

That fee buys Dortmund about 4 new starters
Euros not GBP, though from the sound of things, Dortmund want that final €20m as guaranteed instalments rather than performance based add-ons which we want.
 

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Could part of the delay be also that we have agreed to keep silent first while Dortmund buy Sancho's replacement(s) before we officially confirm the deal? I mean Dortmund themselves would also want to avoid getting rinsed when the selling club know that the massive Sancho money is sitting in their bank?
 

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They will make projections based on various scenarios, same as they would for any other business. We're not sticking a finger up and seeing which way the wind blows here and whatever figure we're happy to pay is whatever we know is safe for us.
They will have projections based on the worst case scenario most likely, financial accounts don’t do positive outcomes, only risk assessments. Hence the reason we’ll be wanting to get this deal done at the bottom end of our budget.

Regarding your previous post also, it’s not simple feat to transfer this money around either.
 

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Could part of the delay be also that we have agreed to keep silent first while Dortmund buy Sancho's replacement(s) before we officially confirm the deal? I mean Dortmund themselves would also want to avoid getting rinsed when the selling club know that the massive Sancho money is sitting in their bank?
I think Dortmund have already got it sorted but their waiting on the sale of Sancho.
 

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I read we wouldn't match the 56k a week that Dortmund offered him and his head was turned by us when he came here. Depends what you read.
It's easier to signal that they asked for too much rather than the player wanting to go somewhere else. Dortmund is a logical choice for talents, you get playing time at a very high level in terms of the league and champions league and you'll be allowed to leave for the right fee.

We were very keen on bringing him to the club and we're well aware what he could cost 3 years from now, considering what we were offering Gomes i doubt there were major issues offering a fat wedge to Bellingham as a long term investment.
 

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Could part of the delay be also that we have agreed to keep silent first while Dortmund buy Sancho's replacement(s) before we officially confirm the deal? I mean Dortmund themselves would also want to avoid getting rinsed when the selling club know that the massive Sancho money is sitting in their bank?
It's not like Dortmund can come knocking at some clubs door and tell them that they randomly want to buy their highly rated attacking midfielder that's clearly out of their current Covid budget, but it's TOTALLY UNRELATED to Sancho - "dude trust me".
 

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Seriously, who's got the time to do fake mock ups? About as sad as transfer season gets this
Normally I'd agree, but right now the amount of people on furlough/made redundant... well there are a lot of people with a lot of time on their hands
 
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