It's about now not overall. Why are you trying so hard to move the goal post to suit your argument? Simple, the player is touted for 80m this summer and the point is simple, it's such a high cost fees & big risk for a 29 years old centre back who is performing poor this season.
So your answer is yes, you'd discount looking at the broader context. Imagine picking Maguire over Koulibaly in a vacuum, couldn't be me (or anyone else with their head screwed on right).
They should bid 80m on De Gea instead, he was really good 3 years ago!
Do you go around in normal life so flippantly accusing people of being racist?
Maguire cost £80m. Safe to say, he's not faultless. I'd be very surprised if Real would rather Maguire than Varane or if Napoli would rather Lindelof than Koulibali. Also, I'd be amazed if many outside this forum seriously thought our 2 CBs would do better against Napoli or City. You can cherry pick 2 games where both lost but that doesn't mean our CBs are better than them.
Ironically, in the OP, both Varane and Koulibali are criticised based on a knee jerk reaction to them having a bad game.
Afaik, some people here use it as a way of dismissing players much higher rated than our own. Basically if you think a non-United player is better than a United player, then you're a "hipster". It's daft.
What are you on about mate? Chelsea needs centre back right, will you spend 80m to sign Koulibaly now? I would like to see your answer.
Exactly. I don't much rate these hipster faves like Messi, Mbappe or Benzema. Give me Lingard any day.
I'd absolutely spend 80m on Koulibaly before I spent it on Maguire. Also if my life is on the line tomorrow and I have to gamble on the outcome of a football match, I'd feel much better with Koulibaly on my side than Maguire.
Why is Maguire need to be involved here? Maguire cost 80m last summer not this summer. This summer the one who cost 80m is Koulibaly not Maguire. A 29 years old centre back who is performing worse than Maguire this season.
I mean WTF?!So basically you invent false grievances to fit your warped perception of reality and then randomly accuse people of being racist, but actually it's just you who is full of crap? As for the rest, try reading the entire thread before you share your wisdom?
Take your issues up with the OP of the thread, he's the one who made the comparison. I'm just responding to this embarrassing thread.
You replied to my post, you have the issue not me.
Your welcome to your opinion but Pep and many many others with far better footballing acumen than you vehemently disagree with you. There is literally no-one of worth who would make the same decision. Else somebody would have bought koulibali for £80m by now.
The title of this thread is literally
Right, that's why Koulibaly looks nailed on for a transfer to Man City this summer?
You replied to my post ffs! If what you are moaning about is something else unrelated then don't quote me in.
And yet city haven’t signed him and took Ake instead?
It's not Pep who turned down Maguire, it's the club who won't pay. City isn't willing to pay 80m for Koulibaly, if it was nailed on for 80m they would have pay him now.
Literally our first interaction on this thread is you responding to a throwaway post I made:
Stop taking things so seriously and learn to admit that your players aren't always the bee's knees. No actual neutral who knows their arse from their elbow would take Maguire over Koulibaly in a million years.
What? You think because City have signed Ake they're out for Koulibaly? One of Otamendi / Stones is done for; Ake was always a signing as a backup LCB / LB / CM utility player. After Laporte went down City suffered immensely because they had no left footed CB and Pep was always keen to get a backup in.
Their season literally ended about 5 hours ago. How on earth are you arguing that City not paying 80m before the season is even over is evidence that the transfer isn't going to happen? The window is open for 2 more months
WTF? Why are you bring up an old argument that supposed to be end of discussion just to suit your argument.
You replied to my post of De Ligt video. Don't start talking about different discussion!
City valued him for 20m below of the asking price. What are you on about? That's why it's not nailed on mate.Their season literally ended about 5 hours ago. How on earth are you arguing that City not paying 80m before the season is even over is evidence that the transfer isn't going to happen? The window is open for 2 more months
Given that Maguire is a young English defender, I don't know what makes you think he'd be overly criticised by the media.
This thread obviously isn't about who you'd buy on a transfer; it's about who is the better player. That said, you ignored this question:
They have 2 more months to negotiate! That's obviously their opening bid - just as a parallel Chelsea initially bid 45m for Havertz. You take an aggressive position initially in any negotiation, this is basic stuff.
Pep has openly spoken about how he wanted to sign Maguire literally a few weeks ago
Yes and the price tag was obtrusive. Just like it was for Koulibaly last year for City.
The reason why this thread is created because people were moaning about Maguire & Lindelof made mistakes this season and fans want to sign a new centre back for an obvious upgrade, it's not about evaluating players as a neutral.
Again, dodging the question. I can respect that because if I were on record as saying I'd prefer someone like Zouma over Koulibaly I'd never live it down.
You are asking a question that doesn't related to the thread. Anyone know Zouma has been shite this season mate, the guy struggling to be constant regular and you expect him to play over Koulibaly.
I mean you can certainly argue that going forward.
Do we really need fecking reddit memes on here?
Indeed. I have no idea what he is debating and why it’s relevant.
