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Wondering if the time to finally upgrade my GTX970 is almost here. Hoping to find similar value with my next card. I consider the 970 and the 6600 GT I had to be the best price/performance value cards in my personal pc building history. And I've been building since the OG Pentium and Matrox and voodoo 3dfx days.
 

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Why's that? I'm glad I got my 2080S on a good deal early this year because the 3000 series and AMD cards are taking forever and I've never used my rig more than in the past 6 months due to COVID. If the new cards are a massive upgrade I can always sell it. I upgraded from an i7-3770k and a GTX680 though so situation was a bit different to yours.
Nothing wrong with the cards, they are great. But I have no need for one, and I also have 2 young sons with PCs so I tend to only upgrade when I really need to these days, or get the itch to. So by not spending on the 2080 it justifies in my head splurging for the next wave ;)
 

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Wondering if the time to finally upgrade my GTX970 is almost here. Hoping to find similar value with my next card. I consider the 970 and the 6600 GT I had to be the best price/performance value cards in my personal pc building history. And I've been building since the OG Pentium and Matrox and voodoo 3dfx days.
Voodoo 3dfx was legendary. Remember the difference it made to Quake 2 lighting? I had a Geforce 9800gt a few years later that it still one of the best, if not the best, bang for buck cards I ever owned.

My first card was a diamond 1mb ( MB not GB for you zoomers out there) with a a first generation P5 @ 66mhz, imagine that! I could run Mechwarrior 2 on mid resolution (640x480) and was well happy with that :lol:
 

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Quick q if anyone is feeling helpful: I run a USB 'hub' out of my Dell monitor, that connects to the back of my PC and has my mouse/keyboard bluetooth dongle in the screen USB ports (tower is too far away for great connection).

Sometimes that USB connection to the monitor keeps disconnecting/reconnecting. It's not a physical problem, have tried multiple ports, and the cable seems good. What's weird is it happens most often when I'm gaming and my GPU is fired up. Feels like maybe a power issue? I have a 700w supply so I should be good.

Haven't been able to articulate the issue online in searches :(
 

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Quick q if anyone is feeling helpful: I run a USB 'hub' out of my Dell monitor, that connects to the back of my PC and has my mouse/keyboard bluetooth dongle in the screen USB ports (tower is too far away for great connection).

Sometimes that USB connection to the monitor keeps disconnecting/reconnecting. It's not a physical problem, have tried multiple ports, and the cable seems good. What's weird is it happens most often when I'm gaming and my GPU is fired up. Feels like maybe a power issue? I have a 700w supply so I should be good.

Haven't been able to articulate the issue online in searches :(
A little confusing, is the hub connected to the PC via USB, or are you saying the monitor is and you run the hub from that?

If the former, off the top of my head the first thing to check is the usb ports in device manager and on all of them find the option that is something like "allow pc to turn off" in power management options and uncheck the box. I had a similar issue a while back when I got my Razer trinity mouse.

Failing that, if it's to do with the GPU, could it be a variable vsync issue with something clashing? I run a freesync monitor off an AMD card, and they've become very touchy with the monitor settings and all that.
 

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A little confusing, is the hub connected to the PC via USB, or are you saying the monitor is and you run the hub from that?

If the former, off the top of my head the first thing to check is the usb ports in device manager and on all of them find the option that is something like "allow pc to turn off" in power management options and uncheck the box. I had a similar issue a while back when I got my Razer trinity mouse.

Failing that, if it's to do with the GPU, could it be a variable vsync issue with something clashing? I run a freesync monitor off an AMD card, and they've become very touchy with the monitor settings and all that.
Thanks, I'll look through the myriad of USB ports - tricky to know which is which! I have a Dell monitor that has 2 USB ports in the side of the monitor, which in turn connects to the back of my PC via USB. It's the whole monitor USB stuff that turns off, but the monitor keeps working fine.
 

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Just ordered 10600K and 16GB 3600mhz C14 off Overclockers. Getting a Z490 motherboard, probably MSI Tomahawk shortly. Will also get Fractal Meshify C with watercooling AIO so I can overclock the CPU and hopefully get 10900K gaming performance out of it.

Also waiting for new Nvidia cards, not sure if I’ll go for 3080 or 3090. If 3090 is around £1200 for FE edition, I’ll go for that. Any higher and I’ll settle for 3080.
 

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Thanks, I'll look through the myriad of USB ports - tricky to know which is which! I have a Dell monitor that has 2 USB ports in the side of the monitor, which in turn connects to the back of my PC via USB. It's the whole monitor USB stuff that turns off, but the monitor keeps working fine.
It could well be that then. Just go through every single thing that says usb, and then them all off for that power management setting and see if it fixes it. Also, it might be worth looking at what usb types the monitor, hub and pc connection are (are they all 3.0 for example?).
 

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I’ve seen that mate. Will wait for reviews between it and 3080 which will be $600 cheaper and still with a 20% boost over 2080ti. Also Nvidia are probably going to launch a 3080ti next year which will be a 3090 but with cut down vram, that’ll be $1000. But yeah, the card is huge.
Can't wait for the release now, I’ve my rig nearly built, just waiting on reviews on these bad boys.
 

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RTX 3080 for me. Potentially 25% performance increase over 2080ti for around £800. I’ll take that all day long. 4K@60 on ultra here we come.
 

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@Bojan11 are you going to be getting 3080 or 3090? £700 for another 25% of performance doesn’t make sense for me. Especially that we’re more than likely to see a Ti offering next year.
 

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I'm on the fence for now
I said I'm gonna just go for the best card but I am gonna see what they're saying.
As you say if the price / performance of the 3080 makes sense, then I'd probably just go for that.

Waiting for AMD to see what CPUs they're offering and the just build a new machine
 

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@Bojan11 are you going to be getting 3080 or 3090? £700 for another 25% of performance doesn’t make sense for me. Especially that we’re more than likely to see a Ti offering next year.
Going to wait and see what people make of it. Not in a rush anyway.
 

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Yeah I'm in need of an upgrade, but not wowed by these enough to make a decision yet.

I'm not convinced the next gen requires a rush going by what I'm hearing about real performance, so there's plenty of time to plan a new build. Especially considering I essentially have to build 3 :lol:
 

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Nice stuff. Can’t wait for 3080. 3090 is overkill for me.
 

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Think I'll get a 3070 for £500 (or less, haven't seen the UK prices). I only game at 1440p 60fps anyway. Should be good for 2-3 yrs. Wonder if the 2070 Super will come down in price or they'll just phase it out?
 

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RTX3090 FE — £1399.00 — available 24th September.

RTX3080 FE — £649.00 — available 17th September.

RTX3070 FE (Faster than 2080Ti) — £469.00 — available October.

Really decent prices here.
 

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RTX3090 FE — £1399.00 — available 24th September.

RTX3080 FE — £649.00 — available 17th September.

RTX3070 FE (Faster than 2080Ti) — £469.00 — available October.

Really decent prices here.
Absolutely mental prices imo. Then again, not looked into pcs much for a few years, think it was the 1080s kicking about when I last looked and they were starting to sky rocket too.
 

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Absolutely mental prices imo. Then again, not looked into pcs much for a few years, think it was the 1080s kicking about when I last looked and they were starting to sky rocket too.

I think prices are reasonable for the performance this time around. Discounting 3090.

 

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Nvidia have destroyed the second hand market, 2080ti for next to £350 is what you will be looking at now!
 

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I think prices are reasonable for the performance this time around. Discounting 3090.
I guess the 3090 is priced more than reasonably.
I think the problem is, instead of calling it the titan, it being given the name 3090 which seems to confuse us somewhat.
Just watched Jays video and he reckons the 3090 is twice as powerful as the RTX titan at $1000 cheaper.

3080 is this years 2080ti though and is priced excellently
 

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I guess the 3090 is priced more than reasonably.
I think the problem is, instead of calling it the titan, it being given the name 3090 which seems to confuse us somewhat.
Just watched Jays video and he reckons the 3090 is twice as powerful as the RTX titan at $1000 cheaper.

3080 is this years 2080ti though and is priced excellently
Yeah I think they might still release a titan. I don’t know.. but I’m really hyped by 3080 £649. Thats a fantastic price imo.
 

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The 3080 seems like excellent value at 4k. Ridiculous performance at a reasonable price. The 3090 is almost nonsensical power and even that price is reasonable compared to Turing. Still though, who needs that much power?
 

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How long for the T.I's of these cards? February-ish?

Haven't had to buy a GPU in years, but my card is struggling now and these look like the time to jump back into the market.
 

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Guys, a question. My PC consists of an i7 4790 cpu, 16Gb ram and an SSD.

Would I have bottleneck problems with any of this high end cards?