Not sure how it could to be fair. He has been incredible for them. If this tarnished his Barca legacy then it would be a real sign that their fans are a bunch of cnuts. Dont think they are / it would.
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We're not privy to any behind the scenes promises. Anyone's guess who's the stranger to the truth. If Messi is so certain he was promised a transfer he should prove it with a piece of paper.
No that is an opinion. It is subjective.
The fact he hasn't taken it to court isn't definitive evidence that he has no right to enforce it. It's like saying a shopkeeper not prosecuting a shoplifter means that the shoplifter never intended to steal.
The biggest crime that Barcelona directors have made is the ridiculous wages they’ve handed out to players. Of which, Messi has been the biggest benefactor.
Barca should have kicked him out of the club. He's 33 ffs. What does he think he is?
It’s not an opinion. It’s a contract. That Messi signed and now has to honour. If it didn’t have a set date then why has he backed down? Let’s not pretend it’s because he cares so much about Barcelona when he was more than happy to walk away for nothing.
I don’t care what Barca/Messi fans say. However if Messi isn‘t happy with whatever Barca is doing (they are hardly midtable or at risk for not qualifying for CL) he is most probably not going to find more success elsewhere. City might have a project but Messi would hardly have been satisfied with 2nd place and exit against Lyon if he is not satisfied with the status quo at Barca
I find it astounding and really hard to believe that Barca are supposedly paying griezmann close 800k a week and Suarez was on 400k, it's funny but had united offered such money people would be saying they only signed for the money but this doesnt get brought up as a reason why these players decided to join Barca if those wages are accurate
Barca will probably be better and more entertaining to watch this season than the last without the old legs of the likes of Vidal, Suarez and rakitic
No he couldn’t. He’s contracted to Barcelona. He’s not staying out of the goodness of his heart, he’s staying because he has to.
And that went down so well with our fanbase didn’t it, despite not trying to bail on a free.Yeah. Rooney says, hello.
If Messi was so unhappy why did he wait 11 days after the season ended to say he wanted to leave? Why did he do it after Koeman told Suarez he wasn’t wanted? He didn’t try to activate his clause at the end of Barcelona’s season.
Unbelievable, no? People act as if he is actually doing Barca a favour. Of course nothing to do with him having to invest a lot of money and time in a court process with uncertain outcome.
Express terms could become retrospectively amendable when the underlying principles of the contract change. If you don't accept that there is no helping you.
There are many reasons he could have refused to take it to a court that don't refer to the merits of his case. Its massively ridiculous to assume, but not unexpected given your obvious agenda.
For example, he doesn't want the shit show, his wife wants to stay in Spain, the other club that he wanted to move to could have backed down, or he would have been advised of a potential delay meaning that he's unlikely to be able to register with a club in this window etc. etc. etc.
Cult of personality. It’s actually a bit pathetic.
It’s not case of whether I accept it or not. Messi has accepted it. The only fact here is that Messi hasn’t been able to activate the clause. We also have precedent just this season where the date is the deciding factor rather than the implied terms. Which is why clubs had to negotiate to get players to stay on when their contract ended on 30 June. Ryan Fraser for example.
You can accuse me of bias all you want but you’re the one getting emotionally invested in this so stop pretending you don’t have your own bias here.
No it doesn't, are you fecking insane? Barca's ownership model by its 100,000 socios is plagued by two opposite camps that have been fighting for over a decade. You have got Rosell + Bartomeu regime stripping Cruyff of his honorary presidency and inviting Nunez back to club events, Rosell + Bartomeu suing Laporta for claimed losses in the club's accounts and testifying in court during a legal case until it was dismissed by a judge in 2017. When Rosell came in, anything to do with Laporta, Cruyff or Guardiola had to be destroyed, and it's gotten so out of control that it's almost destroying the club. This is a battle that dwarfs anything going on in the pitch.
On the pitch, the damage is clear: Barca have spent €1Billion on lemons and currently have an annual wage bill of €500m, with a squad that cannot compete in Europe for over 5 years. This is partly due to a dysfunctional politics at the board level, and the need to cover up the fraud that's been going on at that club. Who the feck swaps Arthur with Pjanic unless to "fix" the accounts? Who would pay €130m for Griezmann? Who would loan Coutinho after spending €160m on him in the first place? Why would a club of Barca's standing loan Kevin Prince Boateng from fecking Sassuolo? Or Paulinho from Evergrande? Or buy Braithwaite from Leganes? Or spend €160m on Dembele? This is a club that has lost the plot for a long time, and Messi's brilliance has helped masked it big time.
Messi's agenda to win now isn't in sync with what Barca can provide. He's asking to leave, Barca might even collect a fee (for someone who came free and scored 634 times and won 34 trophies in the process) and Bartomeu's answer is feck you, pay us €700m or you stay. Instead of getting his salary off, collecting a transfer fee and rebuilding the team. WTF?
I'm happy he's not going to City this year, but as a football fan you want one of the greatest to play at the highest level and you want to enjoy his last years of his indisputable talent. Watching him rot at Barcelona must be a sad sight for any football fan, or else why the feck bother watching football in the first place.
you said he has no legal right to do so. He could well have.
Admit you are wrong that it is a fact he has no right. It is your subjective opinion.
He has not been picking who runs the club I don’t get how many times people make dumb assumptions in this thread. Messi only had hoped for tata to manage back in 2013 that’s it. Messi never asked for Valverde or Setien or Enrique and he certainly never asked for Koeman
Jesus Christ
He has the legal right to fight it. I have the legal right to fight a murder charge but it doesn’t mean I can do it to begin with. If he had activated the clause when he was supposed to he’d have left by now.
It is not my subjective opinion and there has already been precedent for it this season. Climb off your high horse.
And asked to leave the day after his mate was told he could leave. Not 11 days prior when Barcelona’s season ended.
Go home, you’re drunk
again, another clueless assumption from you. Messi has been asking to leave ALL SEASON LONG. He only made it official when every other option for an exit meeting was rebuffed.
I think there's a bunch of trolls on this thread - best not feed them anymore
because he kept trying to make a meeting with the board for an exit and they kept ghosting him. Finally when he had No other option he sent in the fax. Quit being ignorant and watch the interview. Wake up
Bullshit, that's not a fact. You're not only ill-informed, you also don't understand the difference between facts and interpretations.
Well, he does. It's called his contract and his agent released the most important quote from said piece of paper.
Very simplistic views.
That sounds like you've got information the rest of us hasn't heard as of yet. Mind sharing your source with us?
You do realise your supporting a player that’s dragged your club through the mud whilst your at your lowest, not to mention he wants to jump ship and play for a team nobody in Spain would have known existed 10 years ago.
Strange.
Yes, it’s called contract law. It tends to be a bit more matter of fact than ‘what Messi said’. Do you need help with anything else?
Actually I do. You could help me correct the fake news in this thread but something tells me you've got no interest in that. Would mean you'd have to admonish yourself for the misinformation you're spreading here.
You are criticising a player for activating a clause in their contract because 'they have no legal right' to.
It is a subjective view that he has no legal right. You are wrong that it is a fact and your murder analogy is hilarious.
He is not attempting to enforce a right that he believes he has, not attempting to get away with a crime he's committed.
Do tell me what the fake news is here, Donald?
who needs lawyers
I'd imagine it'd be similar to not suing your family member for something that belongs to you because you don't want to see the shitshow that a lawsuit will bring.
Only the greatest player in history
I'm not intoxicated with player worship, unlike Barca fans.
For those sneering why doesnt he take them to court, how long would that actually drag on for?
That doesn't give him the right to dictate how a club is run. He doesn't own the club and definitely shouldn't try to control Barcelona.
It's Barca fans who are intoxicated with hero-worship giving a player, however, great support against their own club.
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I wouldn't be surprised if he's in cahoots with the next president to cause this circus. Probably promised a seat on the board by the future president and who knows a future shot at being the head.
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