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Of course he should follow examples of well behaved players, but it isn't as black and white as you make out. He could be one of the worlds best like Giggs and Rooney, have the most successful career at Man Utd as possible and still be a little shit off the field. George Best anyone? Obviously I want him to be well behaved and not follow suit off the field as pre-mentioned naughty boys, but I was just pulling you up on your comment of "if he wants to succeed" It just comes across like if he doesn't be a good boy he will be a failure which isn't true.
Point taken. But the problem with that logic is that for every George Best that we can find, there will be a Ravel Morrison, Balotelli, Adrian Mutu, Kezman, Adriano, Bentley, Etherington, etc2 who had so much potential but did not quite fulfil it due to off the pitch issues. Of course there will always be people who are like you say, shit off the pitch but absolute genius on it. But the likelihood of being successful on the pitch is much less if you have problems off it. Just my humble opinion.
 

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As long as he doesn’t go full Ravel on us this should and can be rectified by a senior club / team member wrapping an arm around him and giving him a clip around the ear hole.

The hippy crack is daft yes but come on if you’re a teenage elite athlete full of testosterone and there’s a miss Iceland draped over the bed leaving nothing to the imagination you’re hardly going to whip the scrabble board out are you FFS!!
 

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Point taken. But the problem with that logic is that for every George Best that we can find, there will be a Ravel Morrison, Balotelli, Adrian Mutu, Kezman, Adriano, Bentley, Etherington, etc2 who had so much potential but did not quite fulfil it due to off the pitch issues. Of course there will always be people who are like you say, shit off the pitch but absolute genius on it. But the likelihood of being successful on the pitch is much less if you have problems off it. Just my humble opinion.
Yeah I agree with you on that one.
 

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As long as he doesn’t go full Ravel on us this should and can be rectified by a senior club / team member wrapping an arm around him and giving him a clip around the ear hole.

The hippy crack is daft yes but come on if you’re a teenage elite athlete full of testosterone and there’s a miss Iceland draped over the bed leaving nothing to the imagination you’re hardly going to whip the scrabble board out are you FFS!!
Was it Miss Iceland!?? :lol: Damn.
 

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Greenwood leaves United Sanctuary for England duty for a week and we have outpouring of grief never seen before. That's why United are hell bent in protecting the youngsters.

The Media though are vultures. Just waiting for anyone to slip up. Mason should know better but I hope Mason gives 2 fingers to the written Media when they ask for a interview in the future.

Best for him will be to knuckle down and get banging the Goals to shut everyone up.
 

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Come up with a reasonable defence of his actions otherwise your statement is pointless. We are dealing with a kid who has been kicked out of the England national team camp for a pre meditated breakdown of lockdown rules And now he is a smoker of illegal hippy crack
Now you're just shit posting :lol:

There is nothing bizarre about comparing people's behaviour. And just because its a United forumn it doesn't mean we can't talk about players from other teams. We talk about Messi, Ronaldo, Sterling here so what's your point?
It's been pointed out a few times that your comparisons to Grealish and Morrison don't make any sense as they are night and day in terms of severity but you seemingly ignore it and continue on as if it's valid.
 

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You think Greenwood avtually wrote that? This lad is getting good at having to issue public apologies.
Jesus Christ. Ok, he’s the next Ravel Morrison. Let’s get rid of him. Give the bloody lad a break, didn’t take much for our supporters to start to turn on him did it.
 

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Hippy crack :lol:

He needs to keep his head down for a while, but there’s not much more to it.
 

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As long as he doesn’t go full Ravel on us this should and can be rectified by a senior club / team member wrapping an arm around him and giving him a clip around the ear hole.

The hippy crack is daft yes but come on if you’re a teenage elite athlete full of testosterone and there’s a miss Iceland draped over the bed leaving nothing to the imagination you’re hardly going to whip the scrabble board out are you FFS!!
Exactly.
 

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Now you're just shit posting :lol:



It's been pointed out a few times that your comparisons to Grealish and Morrison don't make any sense as they are night and day in terms of severity but you seemingly ignore it and continue on as if it's valid.
I did not say Greenwood's behaviour is the same as Morrison. But he could end up on that path if he can't control himself. What's difficult to understand there?
 

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Does anyone actually care what Southgate thinks or does? Him and his little waistcoat. Losing the respect of Fergie might be a blow but Southgate?! In particular after those disgraceful comments after the game.

I hope he banishes Greenwood from the squad. It was far too early to pick him for the senior international team anyway. He could do a lot worse than just concentrate on United for now.
As soon as he got England call he got the press interested. You are right there was no need to call him up , far too early. I hope they let him concentrate on United. England can mind their own business
 

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I really can’t see Ole being happy with his recent antics. Although I agree that this is tabloid sensationalism and he’s 18 so bound to make mistakes, these indiscretions are pretty dense and he should know a lot better.

Won’t be surprised if he’s dropped for the first few games of the season to teach him a lesson.
 

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I really can’t see Ole being happy with his recent antics. Although I agree that this is tabloid sensationalism and he’s 18 so bound to make mistakes, these indiscretions are pretty dense and he should know a lot better.

Won’t be surprised if he’s dropped for the first few games of the season to teach him a lesson.
Won't be happy but he would understand how to deal with it. He's probably seen a lot in his day from young players in the 90s were like.
 

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What a ridiculous story. It’s feckin laughing gas. Clearly a rat amongst his associates. Not promoting it before someone jumps on my case but it’s hardly news worthy. He just needs to focus on his football now and leave all this behind him.
 

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I did not say Greenwood's behaviour is the same as Morrison. But he could end up on that path if he can't control himself. What's difficult to understand there?
It's completely disproportionate and there's nothing in Greenwoods behaviour to suggest he's going to get involved in anything like what Morrison was involved in.

I asked you earlier if you were fully aware of what Morrison was up to and you didn't answer. Morrison didn't just take his eye off the ball and stop giving his all in training, he was off the rails completely: allegations of domestic violence and harassment, assaulting his mother when he was 15, witness intimidation at 17. It's been reported he was nothing but trouble since he arrived at United when he was 8.

So no the two don't compare at all.
 

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Biggest non news story since Raheem Sterling got a gun tattooed on his leg. Utter nonsense
 

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Absolute bellends whoever broke this story. Can they just lay off the kid? Anyway, hopefully he has learnt he's now squarely in the media's cross hairs. And hopefully Southgate leaves him alone to concentrate on United. He's got loads of time to become an international. There'll probably be an outcry to call him back up if he continues developing.
 

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They’ve got a new target after Sterling it seems. It’s difficult to get behind the national team when the media surrounding it are vultures, Southgate doesn’t help either. Hopefully Greenwood doesn’t have to go back with them for a while, he can keep his head down and focus on United.
As others have said, the Morrison comparisons are ridiculous.
 

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Ofcourse he is not a Morrison.. he already achieved way more than Morrison did (or will).

At the moment i would put it down to him being a kid and just not the brightest kid at that. The daddy video, kicked out of the England squad and now the ‘hippy crack’ ( :lol: )... he just seems to get himself into situations that the media picks up on.

Hopefully he will just keep performing on the pitch so it will be forgetten. Wayne Rooney got himself in even more embarrasing media stories and he didnt do too bad for Manchester United.

just a side note about the hippie crack, trying it once or twice isnt going to cause any harm. However it is addictive and abusers of it can get paralysed from using too much of it.
 

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As long as he doesn’t go full Ravel on us this should and can be rectified by a senior club / team member wrapping an arm around him and giving him a clip around the ear hole.

The hippy crack is daft yes but come on if you’re a teenage elite athlete full of testosterone and there’s a miss Iceland draped over the bed leaving nothing to the imagination you’re hardly going to whip the scrabble board out are you FFS!!
Depends if its the Miss Iceland or Kerry Katona... in which case scrabble might be the better option.
 

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Can we stop calling it ‘hippy crack’ FFS... a ridiculous, deliberately provocative name only ever used by tabloid journalists

Plus it makes you sound like the dad in a teen sitcom telling them the wacky backy will ruin their lives
The same people probably think drugs are acquired from a shady guy in a trench coat under a smoky bridge.
And now he is a smoker of illegal hippy crack
I’m sorry...He’s a what now?
:lol: This was a good read. I think we've found our overly concerned $2 Wall-mart jean wearing dad!
 

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Wouldn't be surprised if was United themselves that got this out.

Could have had a meeting with him and asked if there was anything else that could come out against him. There is this so they just got it out there to get it over with and start with a clean slate.
 

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Greenwood leaves United Sanctuary for England duty for a week and we have outpouring of grief never seen before. That's why United are hell bent in protecting the youngsters.

The Media though are vultures. Just waiting for anyone to slip up. Mason should know better but I hope Mason gives 2 fingers to the written Media when they ask for a interview in the future.

Best for him will be to knuckle down and get banging the Goals to shut everyone up.
The media are and have been and will be utter cnuts when it comes to footballers. Arseholes of the highest order.

However they are not doing the stuff Greenwodd is. They are reporting on it. They will never stop this kind of thing.

Greenwood needs to get his shit together quickly. He plays for Manchester United and what comes with that is an expectation to hold oneself to a code of conduct.
The defence of him is a little cringe here. He's acting the complete bollox and needs the proverbial kick up the arse now.
Throw him to the wolves no but he needs to cop the feck on and fast and he needs to be held accountable for his behaviour no matter how old he is. Ole needs to come down hard. I hope he does and its kept private.
 

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The media are and have been and will be utter cnuts when it comes to footballers. Arseholes of the highest order.

However they are not doing the stuff Greenwodd is. They are reporting on it. They will never stop this kind of thing.

Greenwood needs to get his shit together quickly. He plays for Manchester United and what comes with that is an expectation to hold oneself to a code of conduct.
The defence of him is a little cringe here. He's acting the complete bollox and needs the proverbial kick up the arse now.
Throw him to the wolves no but he needs to cop the feck on and fast and he needs to be held accountable for his behaviour no matter how old he is. Ole needs to come down hard. I hope he does and its kept private.
I’ll be honest I don’t see how he’s acting the ‘complete bollocks’. Does he need a small reality check sure, but he’s hardly gone and killed someone like Alonso. I’m sure most people will have tried laughing gas as a teen and it really won’t cause him any harm.
 

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Come up with a reasonable defence of his actions otherwise your statement is pointless. We are dealing with a kid who has been kicked out of the England national team camp for a pre meditated breakdown of lockdown rules And now he is a smoker of illegal hippy crack
There is nothing bizarre about comparing people's behaviour. And just because its a United forumn it doesn't mean we can't talk about players from other teams. We talk about Messi, Ronaldo, Sterling here so what's your point?
It is bizarre because it's not the thread to discuss Grealish.
It's really hard not to criticize the poster sometimes.
 

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It's completely disproportionate and there's nothing in Greenwoods behaviour to suggest he's going to get involved in anything like what Morrison was involved in.

I asked you earlier if you were fully aware of what Morrison was up to and you didn't answer. Morrison didn't just take his eye off the ball and stop giving his all in training, he was off the rails completely: allegations of domestic violence and harassment, assaulting his mother when he was 15, witness intimidation at 17. It's been reported he was nothing but trouble since he arrived at United when he was 8.

So no the two don't compare at all.
I am not interested in defending the indefensible. His actions are stupid and do not paint a good image of himself. I don't know much about hippy crack thing because that side of life has never interested me. But the fact that national newspapers and some knowledgeable people on here are condemning it, means its not a good thing. He has issued a statement condemning it so its definitely a big issue than what some people on here are pretending it's not. As much as I hate the tabloids, if you don't do stupid, they will leave you alone. These are the same tabloids who have elevated Rashford to the level of a saint now so not everything they do is negative. This silly boy Greenwood should look up to his role model Rashford and leave all that nonsense behind.
 

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I am not interested in defending the indefensible. His actions are stupid and do not paint a good image of himself. I don't know much about hippy crack thing because that side of life has never interested me. But the fact that national newspapers and some knowledgeable people on here are condemning it, means its not a good thing. He has issued a statement condemning it so its definitely a big issue than what some people on here are pretending it's not. As much as I hate the tabloids, if you don't do stupid, they will leave you alone. These are the same tabloids who have elevated Rashford to the level of a saint now so not everything they do is negative. This silly boy Greenwood should look up to his role model Rashford and leave all that nonsense behind.
So you don't address anything I've said about the nonsense you've been posting and just bang on about something else.

I'm really not sure how you got those 7 likes if this is the way you carry on.
 

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He’s made some poor choices but they are hardly the biggest ‘crimes’. The important thing is that he learns from them - a normal 18 year old taking a girl back to a hotel isn’t a news story but an England international doing it during a pandemic is.

If he didn’t realise the scrutiny he will be under, he should now. If he keeps his head down he’ll be fine...comparisons with Ravel Morrison are ridiculously premature.
 

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I actually think these events will make him better.

Cantona 1995
Beckham 1998
Ronaldo 2003

If Solskjear can out his arm round him and get him to concentrate on his football and lose his idiot friends he'll be better than if this didn't happen
 

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Ofcourse he is not a Morrison.. he already achieved way more than Morrison did (or will).

At the moment i would put it down to him being a kid and just not the brightest kid at that. The daddy video, kicked out of the England squad and now the ‘hippy crack’ ( :lol: )... he just seems to get himself into situations that the media picks up on.

Hopefully he will just keep performing on the pitch so it will be forgetten. Wayne Rooney got himself in even more embarrasing media stories and he didnt do too bad for Manchester United.

just a side note about the hippie crack, trying it once or twice isnt going to cause any harm. However it is addictive and abusers of it can get paralysed from using too much of it.
Nitrous Oxide is not addictive.
 

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I think people need to relax a little. While I firmly believe that the media are blood sucking parasites, it is their job to report on things like this. Mason really needs to cop himself on, I get that he's 18 and all the shit he's doing is pretty normal but this media circus will help him learn that he needs to grow up. Maybe I'm misreading it but it seems to me he was getting a bit big for his boots, I'm sure it would be hard not to given his situation but he needed to be brought back down to earth.
 

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I am not interested in defending the indefensible. His actions are stupid and do not paint a good image of himself. I don't know much about hippy crack thing because that side of life has never interested me. But the fact that national newspapers and some knowledgeable people on here are condemning it, means its not a good thing. He has issued a statement condemning it so its definitely a big issue than what some people on here are pretending it's not. As much as I hate the tabloids, if you don't do stupid, they will leave you alone. These are the same tabloids who have elevated Rashford to the level of a saint now so not everything they do is negative. This silly boy Greenwood should look up to his role model Rashford and leave all that nonsense behind.
You don't have a clue what you're talking about. Hippy crack is pretty safe and loads of professional footballers do it or have done it, including Bellerin and Martial (I think). I have an issue with his behaviour lately as well because I think he's just coming across a little arrogant and unlikeable, but I feel that way about most 18 year olds. This media grilling will help him learn and grow up and I think he'll be a better person for it.
 

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He’s made some poor choices but they are hardly the biggest ‘crimes’. The important thing is that he learns from them - a normal 18 year old taking a girl back to a hotel isn’t a news story but an England international doing it during a pandemic is.
If he didn’t realise the scrutiny he will be under, he should now. If he keeps his head down he’ll be fine...comparisons with Ravel Morrison are ridiculously premature.
Southgate specifically stated that entertaining unauthorised guests in hotel rooms is a serious breach of the player charter regardless of COVID-19 biosecure bubble situation and would have been punished with the same disciplinary measure in more normal situations.
 
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I’ll be honest I don’t see how he’s acting the ‘complete bollocks’. Does he need a small reality check sure, but he’s hardly gone and killed someone like Alonso. I’m sure most people will have tried laughing gas as a teen and it really won’t cause him any harm.
It's about his code of conduct and lack of smarts. The things are relatively minor in the real world. Hes a first team footballer for Manchester United. If he wants to act like a twat and the club allow it what does that say about what Ole is trying to achieve?

As I said its not time for him to be thrown under a bus but he needs to realise quickly that his behaviours are not acceptable.
 
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