That's why I really do hope we have alternatives lined up because this season is going to warrant a fair amount of good squad depth given the schedule congestion due to covid.
No chance, this will be quite the opposite really!
That doesn't mean this was the right option. It wasn't. Why should we develop a player for Madrid? We may have been relatively shit to our standards for the last few years but we aren't small time. Some of you need to get that in your heads.
Yeah unmitigated disaster
You may as well resign yourself to that outcome now to avoid disappointment once the window closes. I’ve been quite serene about United for a while now. It’s hard to be annoyed when your expectations are zero. In football terms, we have an average squad, average coaches and average administrators. That’s why we hover between 3rd and 7th, aka nowhere.
United dont want to pay, that is the truth. The buy back can be negiotiated around by adding 5m or so and there were some indications that can happen but they didn't want to. Buy back is just an excuse for them so they can say we tried
Who/what are we saving the money for if not for Ole's targets in that case?
Apparently, it was David Ornstein. Laurie Whitwell, however, stated that United were involved though not of their own accord; apparently, Reguilon's agents were driving much of the negotiations, and we were happy to get involved in order to potentially get a good deal. Once Madrid started playing hardball and Spurs came in, we pulled out.
Our squad is average but our first XI can hang with most. There are plenty of reasons to be excited about the season if we can add 1 or 2. More needed to properly compete I agree.
Interesting thought. But I think your theory will be proven correct if no one else is purchased this summer. If we sign someone like telles then I would say that the buyback was the real issue.
It’s going to be a punishing schedule and you saw what happened to us towards the end of last season. We knew what the weaknesses were and have miserably failed, yet again. It’s not even surprising at this stage.
Fantastic news.
The player does have a right to refuse. The contract between the player and the club isn't fully owned by the club (like in American sports leagues); the player has a significant amount of control over it as well. If a player says no to the club triggering a release/buyback clause, then the contract won't break. This would typically be written out into the contract to protect the player, but it's generally understood between football clubs.
It sort of feels like the agents are driving our activity more than the other way around. If a player's made available to us by an agent, that's when we start to make moves. Even then, the agents would negotiate on our behalf, which would make our activity even slower.
First of all RM and the people doing these deals are not dumb. So they actually have another clause as well that say something like " right to match" In order to avoid the above scenario.
Or, you know, it could be the fact that he's already said that succeeding at Real Madrid is his dream and he's not willing to let go of that, so IF he develops into a world class star, even with no buyback clause, he'd force our hand to accept a Real offer, or just run down his contract and leave for Real on a free.
Would expect so - cannot force the player to play for their old team again (although perhaps the player also contracts to go back to that team after 3 years, subject to negotiation of salary, etc).
From an accounting perspective it does and I’m sure that’s why certain club do transfers in certain ways.
Nuno Mendes is the one i'd like us to get.
I totally forgot that they bought someone to kind of replace Marcelo... wasn't Marcelo their first choice left back for years ? Anyway, don't think United was ever interested in him...
Unless Spurs play a back 3, which they can; Davies at LCB, Davinson Sanchez/Dier at RCB, and Alderweireld/Dier at CB.
This makes an interesting question: Why so few brazilians make the move to the Premier League ?
I don't mean to be argumentative here but I think if we're worried just about keeping face and our image as "not small time" then we need to be slapped.
Thanks, makes sense although I wasn't sure as sense doesn't always seem to apply within the football world...
Our transfer strategy is very simple. We have one main target for positions we require. We get told a price from the selling club and then try to negotiate. They say no, knowing we don’t have any other targets on our radar, are richer than most clubs and have the worst negotiators in world football.
We are not a selling club.
You clearly don't really get the huge problem with signing a player to develop for RM. We get a good season out of him and he's gone. That's completely pointless. It isn't future proof and it certainly isn't a move you see top clubs ever making.
Brazilians have an easier time settling into the Latin countries where the language and cultural barriers aren't as large. Outside of the Latin countries, there are still a decent number of Brazilians who've come into England though most of them aren't bigger names.
I feel like it's more cultural than anything. They're used to a warm tropical climate and a certain kind of cuisine/culture and England is quite different in all those respects.
