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Untd55

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I'd be surprised if we actually signed him. It doesn't feel like the Maguire signing at all. It just feels dead.

Have to wonder whether Sancho's interest may have waned in the last few weeks also.
 

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cyberman said:
Players going to Liverpool, City, Bayern etc and not being touched by Spains big two kind of disproves this. The appeal of playing in the most watched league in the world evens up wanting to play in Spain for the big 2 for non latin players. Being the most watched league in the world starts to hold appeal for each generation of player that passes. Its the same logic as being a Madrid fan watching Ronaldo growing up. If youre growing up watching the EPL then it holds the same logic.
What actual best players in the world even plays in Spain these days? And who are they strongly linked to that are coming in to change that?
Its ok saying cycles but its not as if theyre turning all of these world class players down. As soon as the world record fees and 500k a week wages dried up, the propaganda machine about dreams of Madrid etc stardom dried up as well.
Players these days are a lot more career conscious than players of yesteryear. Actual appeal of clubs as in choosing Madrid over Liverpool has narrowed greatly. Its a bit of an outdated view to have.
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Sometimes opportunities doesn't comes with other options. Some players chooses X club because that's the best offer they have at the moment.

If player like Mbappe/Messi/Ronadlo at their prime they can choose any teams they want to play for, Liverpool, City, United are behind the pecking order.

It's just reality, we're probably a big guns compared to Everton, but there's always the bigger fish.

Nothing wrong with calling it as it is.
 

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Maybe but even if he was, there are 100 other comments that aren't. It's just tiresome, the same tired old insults just get posted without actually adding anything.
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https://tribuna.com/en/manutd/news/...nited-incompetent-when-it-comes-to-transfers/

Mate its well known around football we are awful at transfers. I dont care if its eds job or not.

We had a huge summer and have got 1 signing over the line. If you want to toe the line that everything is fine thats great, I will support the XI on the pitch but beyond that its our job to put pressure on everyone to the owners to make us a Title winning side again.
 

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Untd55 said:
I'd be surprised if we actually signed him. It doesn't feel like the Maguire signing at all. It just feels dead.

Have to wonder whether Sancho's interest may have waned in the last few weeks also.
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Absolutely not. If united are making a bid next week, as is now being quite widely reported, then Sancho will be well aware of that and him and his agent would’ve been one of the first to know.
 

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I've been a long time lurker on these forums but this is one of my vary rare posts... I'm sure this has been mentioned before but tomorrow is the shareholders Q4 earnings call. With united being a publicly listed company it is more difficult for them to conduct business early in the transfer window if they have had a difficult year financially.
Q4 earnings are huge for investors and if we make a loss of over £100m (which is widely expected for the year) then we will be in breach of terms of one of the many loans we hold. This could potentially cause a big stock sell off and damage the clubs finances even further. I've always seen this as the main sticking point for the Sancho deal. It's a massive sum of money and would be much better executed after Q4 earnings when the club has 4 months to absorb the cost slightly before the first earnings call of next year.
There was never going to be a big deal before the 28th September but if earnings and the markets react positively tomorrow then I'd fully expect transfer activity to pick back up. It's frustrating on a football perspective as the squad has huge gaps in it but from a business perspective it's just how things have to be. We're not bank rolled by oil or gas money so have to take care of investor relations and club finances before football decisions can be made.
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Thanks for making the point. Yeah it’s been mentioned in this thread in past days and weeks.
Anyways we are in the final days of the window now so all will become apparent very soon. And after the window closes I’m sure there will be briefings and leaks explaining why the club took the approach it did.
 

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sewey89 said:
Absolutely not. If united are making a bid next week, as is now being quite widely reported, then Sancho will be well aware of that and him and his agent would’ve been one of the first to know.
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The concept of us 'preparing a bid for next week' should be met with a high degree suspicion.
 

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Sky1981 said:
Sometimes opportunities doesn't comes with other options. Some players chooses X club because that's the best offer they have at the moment.

If player like Mbappe/Messi/Ronadlo at their prime they can choose any teams they want to play for, Liverpool, City, United are behind the pecking order.

It's just reality, we're probably a big guns compared to Everton, but there's always the bigger fish.

Nothing wrong with calling it as it is.
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Mbappe went to PSG over Madrid?
I honestly think its an outdated view.
 

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I'm hoping if we can shift a few bodies in the next week it will free up funds for Sancho and Telles. Optimistic perhaps but then that's all I have....
 

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Sky1981 said:
It doesnt matter what we think. It is what it is.

United is the club we support, it's just another company paying for their service for most of them.

And madrid cant afford mbape, even as we speak it's no secret mbappe wants a madrid move
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Whos there now then? Where are all these stars moving over there or getting the Madrid treatment from years ago where they spent a year campaiging for a player to move?
Where are the best players in their positions? Even 2nd, 3rd or 4th best? Did they take a couple of years off, let them stay at rival clubs for fun?
Its not 2007 anymore, they arent clicking their fingers and having superstars come running.
Plus Mbappe hasnt even moved there. Messi wants to leave, Neymar left. If anything theres a talent drain going on at the minute.
 

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I‘d say that the fact there hasn‘t been any sustained links to alternate right wingers can be a good thing. I’d say by now we’d be seeing frantic links to the alternatives like Brooks, Dembele etc, and crucially it’s not reputable journalists doing it like Stone, Hirst and MotherDucker.
 

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Average club? Are you joking?
By brand, results, fans, wealth in the past 10 years they are in the top 10 teams in the world.. Please be serious, Dortmund is everything but an average club
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They way behind Bayern since klopp left and a selling club now.


Dont get me wrong they massive, but they not elite ie successful trophies etc at the moment,
 

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Chairman Steve said:
I‘d say that the fact there hasn‘t been any sustained links to alternate right wingers can be a good thing. I’d say by now we’d be seeing frantic links to the alternatives like Brooks, Dembele etc, and crucially it’s not reputable journalists doing it like Stone, Hirst and MotherDucker.
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We have plenty of time to sign Brooks or Sarr after 5th October.
 

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Surely dead in the water now. No fans for the whole season. Surely they won’t spend £100m on one player with that loss of revenue.
 

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Josep Dowling said:
Surely dead in the water now. No fans for the whole season. Surely they won’t spend £100m on one player with that loss of revenue.
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Can you imagine signing a player like Sancho and not getting to see him in the flesh till god knows when? :(
 

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charlenefan said:
Can you imagine signing a player like Sancho and not getting to see him in the flesh till god knows when? :(
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I'm still struggling on imagining the first bit to be honest never mind the fans in the stadium. :D
 

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Josep Dowling said:
Surely dead in the water now. No fans for the whole season. Surely they won’t spend £100m on one player with that loss of revenue.
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Have you not seen how much money is still being spunked on players even during the current climate?.He'll be a United player in the next 8 days. :drool:
 

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I've been a long time lurker on these forums but this is one of my vary rare posts... I'm sure this has been mentioned before but tomorrow is the shareholders Q4 earnings call. With united being a publicly listed company it is more difficult for them to conduct business early in the transfer window if they have had a difficult year financially.
Q4 earnings are huge for investors and if we make a loss of over £100m (which is widely expected for the year) then we will be in breach of terms of one of the many loans we hold. This could potentially cause a big stock sell off and damage the clubs finances even further. I've always seen this as the main sticking point for the Sancho deal. It's a massive sum of money and would be much better executed after Q4 earnings when the club has 4 months to absorb the cost slightly before the first earnings call of next year.
There was never going to be a big deal before the 28th September but if earnings and the markets react positively tomorrow then I'd fully expect transfer activity to pick back up. It's frustrating on a football perspective as the squad has huge gaps in it but from a business perspective it's just how things have to be. We're not bank rolled by oil or gas money so have to take care of investor relations and club finances before football decisions can be made.
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Great post. I’m not sure with regards to this aspect but makes sense if that’s how it works.
 
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Great that we will all have a conclusion in about a week’s time. Quite bored of this now but i hope it will end up in Sancho being our player and that’ll be worth it at the end
 

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"Don`t do it for the show" meaning its a proper bid not that non sensical 75m+15m story people took for the gospel. Worth noting Utd only usually bid big knowing it`ll be accepted so #SanchON this week?
 

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What is the point of geeing up the fans?

Unless you come through, you're just making a massive rod for your own back.
 
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