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What is this even supposed to mean? Players are valued by their clubs based on what they're worth. We're paying 20m euros + 20m in addons for an 18 year old who has played basically no top flight football. Do you think the club would spend that money on a teenager that they didn't think highly of?What we pay for a player has no relation to their ability or worth clearly.
Add in the Pellestri money (€10m) and it's starting to look like we decided that we could spend the Sancho money more productively over the squad.All those prices are in Euro and Cavani was on a free. Adds up to €100 million so still €20 short of what Dortmund wanted.
I think its irrelevant to their actual ability as I have just said.What is this even supposed to mean? Players are valued by their clubs based on what they're worth. We're paying 20m euros + 20m in addons for an 18 year old who has played basically no top flight football. Do you think the club would spend that money on a teenager that they didn't think highly of?
You've missed Martial from that list. And Ronaldo.This kind of signings never worked, never, similar kind of signings in the past:
angelo henriquez
Obertan
Bebe
Dalot
Ljalic
Tosic
Zaha
Varela
Petrucci (the new totti)
James
Powell
Vermijl
De leat
Manucho
Macheda
Diouf
Possebon
Bellion
Dong
so another one to put in that list
Ronaldo, Chicharito, Pogba, Pique?This kind of signings never worked, never, similar kind of signings in the past:
angelo henriquez
Obertan
Bebe
Dalot
Ljalic
Tosic
Zaha
Varela
Petrucci (the new totti)
James
Powell
Vermijl
De leat
Manucho
Macheda
Diouf
Possebon
Bellion
Dong
so another one to put in that list
Martial has to be the most overrated player on this site. What exactly has he done? Scored a great goal on his debut. He has been atrocious so far this season and now got himself banned for 3 games.You've missed Martial from that list. And Ronaldo.
Pique, Pogba, Ronaldo, Martial, Nani, AndersonThis kind of signings never worked, never, similar kind of signings in the past:
angelo henriquez
Obertan
Bebe
Dalot
Ljalic
Tosic
Zaha
Varela
Petrucci (the new totti)
James
Powell
Vermijl
De leat
Manucho
Macheda
Diouf
Possebon
Bellion
Dong
so another one to put in that list
SublimeApparently he’s not very good centrally, said to be crunchy on the outside, soft in the middle.
Was our top scorer last season for 1Martial has to be the most overrated player on this site. What exactly has he done? Scored a great goal on his debut. He has been atrocious so far this season and now got himself banned for 3 games.
Ronaldo on the other hand already have a season under Sporting and proves himself against us in pre-season friendlies.
Yes they did. There is also a thread in the reserve forum a couple of weeks ago about how we were going to bid for him.Didn’t one of the broadsheet hacks say we filed an application for his work permit the Friday just gone? It wasn’t some mad panic today that happened off the back of a really bad loss.
Was our top scorer last year?Martial has to be the most overrated player on this site. What exactly has he done? Scored a great goal on his debut. He has been atrocious so far this season and now got himself banned for 3 games.
Ronaldo on the other hand already had a season under Sporting and proved himself against us in pre-season friendlies.
I'm also not sure what the problem is actually. If anything it's a rags to riches story. Illegal immigrant to €40m footballer.Because the media made it so, and my point still stands, is this really information that needed to be revealed, hes 18 years old ffs
Zaha is on your list.Martial has to be the most overrated player on this site. What exactly has he done? Scored a great goal on his debut. He has been atrocious so far this season and now got himself banned for 3 games.
Ronaldo on the other hand already had a season under Sporting and proved himself against us in pre-season friendlies.
Was our top scorer last season for 1
Scored less goals than Lukaku in his highest scoring season. Just about sums it up.Was our top scorer last year?
I don't have The same feeling about that Uruguayan kid but we will see.
Thats not a good thing to all people but to be honest this isn't the place to discuss it. Maybe he doesn't see himself as coming from rags, but you know great you have labeled him as soI'm also not sure what the problem is actually. If anything it's a rags to riches story. Illegal immigrant to €40m footballer.
Is that true? Fecking hell if so, we're a total circus.Tracking him for 3 years and we wait to make a move until the last day of the window, when there's no time to sort a work permit and he can't actually join for 3 months.
He's like 3 years younger than Lukaku but okScored less goals than Lukaku in his highest scoring season. Just about sums it up.
He actually scored more in the league and in less games (was injured for 3 months) but carry on with the nonsense.Scored less goals than Lukaku in his highest scoring season. Just about sums it up.
Its not irrelevant to their actual ability, ability is a huge component in determining a player's worth. There are sometimes anomalies such as Maguire who was way overpriced, but that's still an established player. You can't be comparing that to an 18 year old who isn't a name to the average fan. Dan James is more of a comparison but he carried British tax, and we still paid much less for him (16 million euros compared to 20 + 20 for Amad).I think its irrelevant to their actual ability as I have just said.
Unless you feel that the club has shown a great track record in terms of identifying and valuing the talent they purchase? It not rocket science what is being said here
18 yr potential talent for 19 million + 18 million add-ons, someone with 1 Senior Appearance for Atalanta? Yea, stupid business.So an 18 year old talent is now future deadwood? Bugger off mate, give the kid a chance.
I think you're making a mountain of a molehill to be honest but you're entitled to your opinion.Thats not a good thing to all people but to be honest this isn't the place to discuss it.
With regards to his immigration status, this country and many others are not very friendly to "illegal immigrants"
Again completely missing the actual point, the key element there is the purchasing clubs ability to measure talent and ability, jheeze.Its not irrelevant to their actual ability, ability is a huge component in determining a player's worth. There are sometimes anomalies such as Maguire who was way overpriced, but that's still an established player. You can't be comparing that to an 18 year old who isn't a name to the average fan. Dan James is more of a comparison but he carried British tax, and we still paid much less for him (16 million euros compared to 20 + 20 for Amad).
Might have been interest from else where that forced them to act now or lose out.Is that true? Fecking hell if so, we're a total circus.
It’s not like he’s 18. He’s 24 and should be coming into his prime.He's like 3 years younger than Lukaku but ok
Dude, you don't have a point here, so I don't know wtf you're talking about. My original comment was just a general comment with no controversial element, and yet you're somehow making an argument out of this. Are you okay?Again completely missing the actual point, the key element there is the purchasing clubs ability to measure talent and ability, jheeze.
My point was clear, and I didn't argue with you, just made a point, to which you say I have no pointDude, you don't have a point here, so I don't know wtf you're talking about. My original comment was just a general comment with no controversial element, and yet you're somehow making an argument out of this. Are you okay?