Are we jinxed or is there a coaching issue at Manchester United

[Skills]

Even at our best last season, we were almost exclusively relied on individual brilliance (except possibly Martial and Rashford who were synced together at some stage). Right now, we look totally uncoached, same as we looked under Moyes and Mourinho. Only under LVG there were signs of a well drilled team, but we were pretty bad at the final third.

The issue under Van Gaal was the lack of talent and he was almost solely responsible for that. You take Rooney, Schneiderlin and Lingard out of that team for Bruno, Fred/Pogba and Rashford/Greenwood it's a different beast.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

Wrong sub-forum?

 

[JPRouve]

It has nothing to do with being friendly and family oriented, it's also not a jinx. The caf is the only place I know where coaching is almost completely overlooked for frankly stupid things like "the manager needs to shout more/stand more/be meaner". In every single team sports, there is one reality, top coaches are few and the difference between a top team and a "normal" team is on the bench/sideline, NBA, NHL, NFL, Rugby or Handball, it's the same story. Having won in the past, been coached by a great manager or worked in the coaching staff of a great manager also means nothing just look at Belichik's former assistants.

United haven't appointed a single manager that was currently good, currently at his peak or on a rising trend. Moyes was an average manager, the best he can do is prevent your team from getting relegated but he will win nothing, LVG was at the very end of his career and out of club football, Mourinho was a former great manager on the decline and two good tiers below the very best. While Ole as a manager is a nobody, I'm not trying to be disrespectful but he isnt' better than Moyes, we all love him as a player but as a manager he has everything to prove and has never really demonstrated that he was good enough to coach PL players and make them reach new levels.

When all the confirmed top managers are taken, you have to take risks and look at the promising youngish managers and you need to get rid of them the minute you are convinced that they aren't the real deal, people will obviously not like that idea because United isn't a sacking club, but that's how the top clubs get their top managers by chopping and changing, none of them know in advance who is going to make it.

 

[Skills]

It has nothing to do with being friendly and family oriented, it's also not a jinx. The caf is the only place I know where coaching is almost completely overlooked for frankly stupid things like "the manager needs to shout more/stand more/be meaner". In every single team sports, there is one reality, top coaches are few and the difference between a top team and a "normal" team is on the bench/sideline, NBA, NHL, NFL, Rugby or Handball, it's the same story. Having won in the past, been coached by a great manager or worked in the coaching staff of a great manager also means nothing just look at Belichik's former assistants.

United haven't appointed a single manager that was currently good, currently at his peak or on a rising trend. Moyes was an average manager, the best he can do is prevent your team from getting relegated but he will win nothing, LVG was at the very end of his career and out of club football, Mourinho was a former great manager on the decline and two good tiers below the very best. While Ole as a manager is a nobody, I'm not trying to be disrespectful but he isnt' better than Moyes, we all love him as a player but as a manager he has everything to prove and has never really demonstrated that he was good enough to coach PL players and make them reach new levels.

When all the confirmed top managers are taken, you have to take risks and look at the promising youngish managers and you need to get rid of them the minute you are convinced that they aren't the real deal, people will obviously not like that idea because United isn't a sacking club, but that's how the top clubs get their top managers by chopping and changing, none of them know in advance who is going to make it.

This, this, this.

 

[izak]

It's down to poor coaching I'll say, we play too close to each other it's almost like we get in each others way when you watch us, the Coaches need to get up and change our style of play, our Midfielders(Pogba, Matic) take too long in possession our wide players don't whip balls in early or dangerously, we don't play direct to the Number 9, For God sakes how many time do the opposition teams have to press us into error before we stop playing out from the back? We need try the Long ball to either our wingers or our number 9 to win headers before our Midfielders fight for the second ball, look at Bayern how they destroyed Barca last season! We should learn from that and play in a similar way, we've got players now that we can use to play like they do. Telles, Fred, VDB, Pogba and Bruno... Fred can play as the destroyer, Bruno as the free role(Roaming around looking for possession), Pogba or VDB playing in the Müller role, Cavani in the Lewi role, Mason/Rashy in the Gnebry role, Marital/Rashy in the Colman role, Telles in the Davies role.
Then pass strict instructions to AWB, Lindelöf and Maguire to hold strategic positions when we are attacking, also give Instructions to Fred, Bruno and Pogba to mob up every lose ball and send it either wide to Telles(crossing) or forward to Canvani or Mason as fast as possible. Pogba should be the one closer to the number 9 and should make late runs into the box often.

Let's stop this pass-pass to feet thing we are trying to do it's not the United way we need to go back to crossing drangerous balls in early.

 

[Meep]

Wrong sub-forum?

No this is our new player from The Championchip Peter Are-we-jinxed-or-is-there-a-coaching-issue-at-manchester-united..

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Players aren't coached at all yet....

1. Finished 3rd. If our players aren't coached god help the ones who finished below us.

2. We only lost 1 top 6 clash in the league last season. Incredible feat for a team that's 'not coached'

3. Beat Pep Guardiola three times in one season. Only 2nd team ever do manage that.

4. Beat Chelsea 3 times, took 4pts off Jose and beat Leicester home and away.


Our players have clearly been coached guy ffs. We've had some tremendous winning runs under this manager. The caretaker spell and end of January to July this year. Suppose they were flukes?

Our players have come back without a pre season game in most cases and it's cost us badly. I did say this to you all when I said we should throw the Europa League and nobody listened to me. Got laughed at. Not laughing now though.

Great post.

Coaching is the buzz word in the Caf at the moment.

Everything can be improved by this mythical coaching, that apparently we are not doing.

It amuses me when I see posters stating things like “player x would be good if he was coached”. “If only we could actually coach the team property then we would be in xyz position”.

 

[Berbasbullet]

We are one team that never modernised when it comes to tactics. Once we get a progressive coach hopefully that will change. Our most competent managers being also stuck in the past says it all.

Agreed LVG, Jose, Moyes aren’t exactly progressive managers.

That’s why I hope (providing Ole doesn’t work out) the next appointment is a manager on the ascendancy, and who has their side well drilled.

 

[Highfather_24]

Ole seems to be a good man manager, and usually his team selection is spot on. Phelan is a good #2. But just like Ferguson had Queiroz/Maulensteen(the tactical coach), Utd need someone like that. And I have seen enough of the results on the pitch to understand Carrick/Mckenna are not good enough. So we need a world class tactical coach.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Phil Jones had one bad half, was subbed off and hasn't been seen since. I don't think the coaching staff are too coddly.

Only that Pogba farts about gives away pens but gets to stay on. Bit coddly don’t you think

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Agreed LVG, Jose, Moyes aren’t exactly progressive managers.

That’s why I hope (providing Ole doesn’t work out) the next appointment is a manager on the ascendancy, and who has their side well drilled.

Nagelsman?

 

[deleon]

If we are jinxed, what do we propose can be done about it? If nothing, then probably more melioristic to blame something else. We are not exactly short on candidates there.

 

[e.cantona]

The transition from SAF to Moyes' what f'd us imo. That guy didn't belong here and it was obvious. Imagine the players at the time going from SAF to Moyes. No Moyes, no LVG.

 

[Skills]

Ole seems to be a good man manager, and usually his team selection is spot on. Phelan is a good #2. But just like Ferguson had Queiroz/Maulensteen(the tactical coach), Utd need someone like that. And I have seen enough of the results on the pitch to understand Carrick/Mckenna are not good enough. So we need a world class tactical coach.

Any ideas of which "world class" coach out there would be happy to do the training ground graft and give up the matchday stuff to Ole?

Rose? Nagelsman? Pochettino maybe?

 

[Fosu-Mens]

If we are jinxed, what do we propose can be done about it? If nothing, then probably more melioristic to blame something else. We are not exactly short on candidates there.

Revamp the coaching staff and anything related to the first team and u23. Easier said than done, but bring in people that has created and worked in "state of the art" footballing departments.

Would likely be one of the first things on the agenda of any DoF that came to the club.

 

[GifLord]

Harry Maguire was a better player when we bought him, than he is now. We can add Bruno, AWB, Pogba and James to that ever growing list. I was watching footage of AWB for Palace against Man City. He was attacking down the wing in their half. He was in City's box, getting crosses in. Now he won't cross the half-way line without getting the jitters. Maguire at Leicester was a dominating presence. When he came for a ball he always won it. He scored goals for Leicester. Even got 5 assists. He is way off that sort of form now. The player that Bruno was from January to March. He hasn't been near that since lockdown. Same with James. He was stretching teams with his pace. Away at the Ethihad last season, they couldn't handle him. Now he's a passenger. Pogba has had about 5 good games in 3 seasons. He was world class for Juve. We could go back to Sanchez, Lukaku, Di Maria...there is fundamentally something rotten at our club where players lose their level of performance, then get it back again as soon as they leave!

Why are we signing good players and then not getting the best out of them? Why is their confidence so low when they play for us. Where is the motivation? Where is the spark that we need to kick-start this team again?

Was he really though?

 

[DRM]

I'm sure there are valid, factual and fundamental reasons, all which will be discussed if not already discussed. My view is that of a simpleton. I call it, the post fergie curse.

We enjoyed decades of success under the great man. Now, it's our turn to suffer. We can appoint Jesus Christ himself as a manger, spend unlimited amounts of cash, have the next Rinaldo's and Messi's in our team - yet we will still fail. Just learn to accept it, I am trying to. Our time will come again, but certainly not for many many years!

 

[Xaviesta]

The coaching side of this is always tough to answer considering nobody on here see what goes on out on the training field. There's a place for "Man Utd DNA" but do you really need 3 people (OGS, Phelan and Carrick) with that aforemetioned DNA on your staff? Mike Phelan at least has first hand knowledge and experience of being in a successful managerial team so his presence makes sense.

When Pep started at City, Mikel Arteta was the only inexperienced coach on his staff, so his lack of experience wasn't a massive issue. In terms of *coaching at the top level, you have two people (OGS and Carrick) learning on the job so to speak. Again, I'd question if that's ideal.

I'll use Xabi Alonso to make a point about Michael Carrick. Alonso's coaching career started with one of the age group teams at Real Madrid. He's now the manager of Real Sociedad's B team. Alonso is in a position where he can learn and make mistakes as a coach without the eyes of the world judging his work. Maybe Carrick's coaching career would benefit starting out a lower level than the United first team.

*When I say Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is ''learning on the job at the top level'', I'm referring to coaching a really big club with all due respect to Molde and Cardiff.

 

[Delano]

Ole has said outright that he is barely involved in training when it comes to running drills on tactics and patterns. That's on Carrick, Mckenna and Phelan.

So the question for me is, do we think those 3 and their records are that of elite coaches? I have severe doubts.

 

[Highfather_24]

Any ideas of which "world class" coach out there would be happy to do the training ground graft and give up the matchday stuff to Ole?

Rose? Nagelsman? Pochettino maybe?

No those are managers who will never accept being a #2. I'm definitely no expert on coaches who have world class pedigry and tactical nous. But money talks, and I think we need one in our management team.

Listen, I'm not opposed to Nagelsman replacing Ole when the time is right. But imo, Ole has done a lot of good with the club when it was in freefall. And he needs to be supported with the right men around him, who can cover for his weaknesses. Pulling in a new manager right now in the absence of a DOF, might mean another overhaul at United.

 

[Berbasbullet]

Nagelsman?

Yeah he will do!

 

[Revan]

The issue under Van Gaal was the lack of talent and he was almost solely responsible for that. You take Rooney, Schneiderlin and Lingard out of that team for Bruno, Fred/Pogba and Rashford/Greenwood it's a different beast.

Yup, I agree. The squad was weaker, mostly cause LVG was useless in the transfer market. Which brings us to the next point, why on the flying feck we let the manager sign players? The only big club who still persists with this absurd strategy.

 

[HowYouDoin]

Well of course there is a coaching issue now.
Ole just isnt a premier league manager. He will never get a job in the premier league again.
Arsene Wenger said we would actually be a good team but we are not coached at all, there is no pattern of play at all. If Arsene Wenger says it you better believe he knows what he is talking about.

We just havent found the right coach yet.
It just hasnt worked out so far but at some point it will.
If there is something I hold against the board they havent been ruthless enough.
All big teams have changed more managers than us in the last 7 years. We should have gotten rid of both Mourinho and Solskjaer way sooner. We see changing of managers with apprehension because we were spoiled by Sir Alex but big teams change managers all the time. Its normal but for us its different. We are just getting used to it.
We will find the right fit eventually. If its Poch I'd say he will be the right fit so yeah I think our next manager will be the right fit.

Solskjaer is a joke. We appointed him too fast after that miracle in Paris and well here we are but realistically he is not a Premier league manager at all.
He is a feel good fraud. He makes us all feel good, he made players feel good after Mourinho hence the uptick in form but realistically we were a much better team under Mourinho yet 81 points under Mourinho felt lousy, 66 points under Solskjaer felt amazing.

 

[meamth]

The most mind-blowing thing about the caf is how the feck does keyboard typing coaches know we're lacking in the coaching department??

Nobody here knows, 100% can guarantee that.

The difference between a well oiled machine team and Manchester United is, they don't have very good players, they had to rely on tactical brilliance to win games. You see Brighton playing well, can they win the league? no.

We rely on form, and individual brilliance. Tactics are there but not as important of getting the players on form. When our players on form, doesn't matter what tactics they use, we will win games.

Do they win 30 games with said tactics? No. Good style of play can win you games but not consistently, you teach a team to play one way, you won't win everytime.

That is more important to me than seeing a well oiled team passing for no reason like LVG's philosophy.

 

[HowYouDoin]

The most mind-blowing thing about the caf is how the feck does keyboard typing coaches know we're lacking in the coaching department??

Nobody here knows, 100% can guarantee that.

The difference between a well oiled machine team and Manchester United is, they don't have very good players, they had to rely on tactical brilliance to win games. You see Brighton playing well, can they win the league? no.

We rely on form, and individual brilliance. Tactics are there but not as important of getting the players on form. When our players on form, doesn't matter what tactics they use, we will win games.

Do they win 30 games with said tactics? No. Good style of play can win you games but not consistently, you teach a team to play one way, you won't win everytime.

That is more important to me than seeing a well oiled team passing for no reason like LVG's philosophy.

I mean we are not exactly clueless here. We know a thing or two about football and we can see we are not coached at all. Besides results confirm it and players constantly regressing upon joining us confirm it plus the fact that we cant even describe how we play or if Ole is an attacking or defensive manager kinda provee that there is no rhyme or reason to anything we do.

But sure we are just people on the internet. You may discredit us as much as I think what general consensus here is just common sense but how about Arsene Wenger saying exactly the same thing, that we are not coached at all and that there is no pattern of play?

Come on, its not exactly nuclear physics we are talking about here. Some things are obvious and Ole just doesnt belong in the Premier League at all. His future is in a tier 3 league like Norway or something because there is just nothing about him. He just isnt a proper manager for any Premier League side.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

The most mind-blowing thing about the caf is how the feck does keyboard typing coaches know we're lacking in the coaching department??

Nobody here knows, 100% can guarantee that.

The difference between a well oiled machine team and Manchester United is, they don't have very good players, they had to rely on tactical brilliance to win games. You see Brighton playing well, can they win the league? no.

We rely on form, and individual brilliance. Tactics are there but not as important of getting the players on form. When our players on form, doesn't matter what tactics they use, we will win games.

Do they win 30 games with said tactics? No. Good style of play can win you games but not consistently, you teach a team to play one way, you won't win everytime.

That is more important to me than seeing a well oiled team passing for no reason like LVG's philosophy.

Yeah how do football fans know Liverpool are a well coached side? For all we know they are receiving such Moyes-Neville level training ground guidance and it's actually form, individual brilliance etc that is carrying them despite the crap coaching

 

[Booda]

Can Someone/Anyone please explain what this word coached means please , are we talking great detail like in American football where players are told you overlap here run here, pass there, complicated patterns of attacking plays and defensive duties. And if this is the case why cant any athlete or lower division player be taught it. I once heard a player that had played for United, Real , Pool and Newcastle laugh when the topic came up on tv saying "how does a coach tell so and so how to attack" and just said they worked a bit on set pieces and general shape and that's it. How much elite level coaching had Rooney had when he was 16 and already knowing how to hurt teams? football is a team game and 90% is played when you don't have the ball some players just see the picture and know what do where to run/be a lot better that others I don't think its coached into them, that manager needs to find the right players to exploit this.

 

[deleon]

Revamp the coaching staff and anything related to the first team and u23. Easier said than done, but bring in people that has created and worked in "state of the art" footballing departments.

Would likely be one of the first things on the agenda of any DoF that came to the club.

Sorry, I meant (sarcastically I should add) if we are jinxed. Unless you are talking about replacing the coaching staff with masters of the mystic arts.

The difference between a well oiled machine team and Manchester United is, they don't have very good players, they had to rely on tactical brilliance to win games. You see Brighton playing well, can they win the league? no.

We rely on form, and individual brilliance. Tactics are there but not as important of getting the players on form. When our players on form, doesn't matter what tactics they use, we will win games.

Do they win 30 games with said tactics? No. Good style of play can win you games but not consistently, you teach a team to play one way, you won't win everytime.

Tactical coherence can make up the difference if you don't have equally good players, and take you to the next level if you have them. Just look at Liverpool, City and Bayern. Also, how do you propose to keep the majority of players on form if they are all on different wavelengths?

 

[Chesterlestreet]

Nobody here knows what happens on the training pitch in detail.

But, yeah - if it's a toss-up between "coaching issue" and "voodoo curse", I'd probably go with the former. Probably.

 

[Handré1990]

Coaching, style and mentality. They’re all connected. LVG had the right idea imo, but didn’t exactly nail the execution of said ideas.

Without a basic possession game incorporated into the team’s DNA we’ll always be susceptible to huge swings in form and performance. Unless we happen to luck ourselves to a new co92, a new Keane and a new defence. Teams who are well coached nowadays fall back to the automatic patterns when they are tired, they use the ball to rest. Even under SAF we had something like that.

 

[redshaw]

I'm sure there are valid, factual and fundamental reasons, all which will be discussed if not already discussed. My view is that of a simpleton. I call it, the post fergie curse.

We enjoyed decades of success under the great man. Now, it's our turn to suffer. We can appoint Jesus Christ himself as a manger, spend unlimited amounts of cash, have the next Rinaldo's and Messi's in our team - yet we will still fail. Just learn to accept it, I am trying to. Our time will come again, but certainly not for many many years!

Not a curse as such but it can be a curse of our own making, there's no real curse. A chasm is left when Fergie retires and we haven't appointed correctly. We've missed out on the few current top managers and not identified the up and coming and we're probably just as poor for training staff in general. We've spent a lot but have very little to show for it. People running the club aren't able.

When Bayern start slipping they get rid of Kovac and hire Flick to win the treble and wins with so called finished/deadwood players.

We had a key time after sacking Moyes to get it right and stay up there but have slipped so far down now.

Seems like we'll jump to Poch if Ole has another long poor run.

 

[Hammondo]

Harry Maguire was a better player when we bought him, than he is now. We can add Bruno, AWB, Pogba and James to that ever growing list. I was watching footage of AWB for Palace against Man City. He was attacking down the wing in their half. He was in City's box, getting crosses in. Now he won't cross the half-way line without getting the jitters. Maguire at Leicester was a dominating presence. When he came for a ball he always won it. He scored goals for Leicester. Even got 5 assists. He is way off that sort of form now. The player that Bruno was from January to March. He hasn't been near that since lockdown. Same with James. He was stretching teams with his pace. Away at the Ethihad last season, they couldn't handle him. Now he's a passenger. Pogba has had about 5 good games in 3 seasons. He was world class for Juve. We could go back to Sanchez, Lukaku, Di Maria...there is fundamentally something rotten at our club where players lose their level of performance, then get it back again as soon as they leave!

Why are we signing good players and then not getting the best out of them? Why is their confidence so low when they play for us. Where is the motivation? Where is the spark that we need to kick-start this team again?

Maguire , Pogba ,James, and Bruno were not better when we bought them.

 

[monosierra]

Sure we don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes - if we did, there’d be no CAF - but we can see what’s going on during matches and compare it with other teams that are known for a rigorous and progressive coaching regime. We can also see why some players played better before then joined us, our lack of shape and organization on the pitch and the general lack of results outside individual brilliance. Of course coaching is no panacea - Ancelotti was hounded out of Bayern for poor coaching and drilling but he is doing well at Everton now. But looking at the resumes of our coaching staff - their inexperience is shocking. Not their fault that they are hired but they really should be learning their ropes elsewhere first.

 

[JPRouve]

Nobody here knows what happens on the training pitch in detail.

But, yeah - if it's a toss-up between "coaching issue" and "voodoo curse", I'd probably go with the former. Probably.

You don't have to be on the training ground and have details to know that we are not as good as other top clubs in that department, you can judge that by the results. In essence it's comparable to judging a surgeon, you don't need a PhD or to be in the operating room to know that if you end up with brand new breast implants during an appendectomy something went wrong.

 

[midnightmare]

Yeah exactly. I don't think Carrick, McKenna etc bring much to the table.

Have you seen what McKenna has done across youth levels? At those levels, it's almost entirely about the coaching - as that's when you're developing players and drilling them and educating them about the game, tactics etc. You don't achieve all he did at youth levels without knowing how to coach.
Note also that Carrick and Kieran were brought in by Jose - who does know a fair bit about coaching himself.

The coaching isn’t good enough, at any level.

Ummm... what? Which levels are these that you speak of?

The dichotomy is stark for us. Set aside the last game against Spurs and we have had an exceptionally good record under Ole against top teams - and none of those wins was a "fluke" or "smash and grab". In each, we looked superbly drilled and players knew exactly what to do. A lot of this I think has to do with depth and how players are pushed. It's not a conscious thing for most, but knowing that if you under-perform, there's someone just waiting to take your spot is something that is critical to sustaining top-end performance. It's something United's squad has lacked since Fergie. Look at us even now:

Center-back: Our options are Maguire and Lindelof ahead of perma-crocks Jones, Rojo, Axel and Bailly with an 18 year-old Mengi as the final alternative. Where's the pressure? It would take a long series of continued disasters before Maguire could expect to be dropped.
Right-back: Options behind AWB? TFM? Laird? Laird may be our great hope - but hasn't even debuted yet. And even a clearly jaded or even shattered AWB is therefore playing as the alternative is the "not quite good enough even at his best" TFM.
Left-back: We saw the immediate improvement in Shaw one Brandon had a good run of games.

Central mid:
No option to substitute Matic; McTominay lacks the passing and vision; Fred lacks the consistency
Pogba and who? Only Bruno offers the range of passing Pogba is expected to provide / can provide when ar*ed
Bruno - VDB is an alternative of some sort; so our best position in this case is where we have a player we least need to push

Forwards:
Right wing: So devoid of options we're playing Mason (a CF) here; would anyone prefer Mata, James or Lingard over even an off-colour Mason?
CF: Martial and...? Ighalo? Now we have Cavani of course, but this is a guy that's barely played in a year and a half!
LW: Rashford and...? James maybe? Or else we're looking at Tony on the LW...

We lack the quality of players that can push the first choice 11 - and we don't have (barring Bruno) the kind of player that will push his team-mates and boll*ck them when required to ensure that standards are always maintained. We've lacked those players since Fergie left (ok, technically since Moyes actually, but I like to forget about that season). So what we see now is a team that is occasionally brilliant - but wildly inconsistent as standards are just not maintained at all times. I am sure Ole knows what it takes as he lived through that - but he alone and the coaches alone - can't fix it. The squad is nowhere close to what it should be to challenge and that doesn't just come from individual skills or having a decent core of 14-16 players that can be relied upon (We don't even have that of course).

 

[Zen86]

Maybe our players read caf, that would explain why they all go downhill.

On a serious note, it might well be the intense pressure, criticism, and expectation that they face as a United player. It’s not something as basic as a coaching issue, as this has been the case since the LVG days.

 

[Fosu-Mens]

Sorry, I meant (sarcastically I should add) if we are jinxed. Unless you are talking about replacing the coaching staff with masters of the mystic arts.

I meant replacing the coaching staff with some of the teachers at Hogwarts. Only not the instructors in Defence against the dark arts. Those, surely, are cursed.
Seriously though, i misread your post. Just going along with it.

 

[Blood Mage]

Coaching? What the heck is that, I can't remember what that looks like.

 

[Drainy]

The coaching issue is probably that all our coaches have tremendous knowledge but are too fecking nice!

We need some good old SAF ire. " Play like that again and you're dropped!" kind of coaching

Yeah too many soft touches and second chances

 

[soapythecat]

No jinxed just poorly ran.
Jose’s appointment looked to have broken the chain. We were playing good football under him, especially when he had his assistant (forget his name), but the arrival of Sanchez somehow turned everything on its head. We were never a great team again since he joined. Lukaku turned into a pub footballer and we just looked disinterested and the zombie football was back. Jose never recovered. Losing his assistant was a big hit for hit I feel.
The Ole contract was the clubs own doing and I’m pretty sure every United fan agrees that Ed jumped the gun offering him that contract mid season. He never was and never will be good enough to manage us in my eyes.