Amad “Traore“ Diallo

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Djalminha?
If he gets to just 70% of Djalminha's level he would be my favorite player instantly. Such flair, cheekyness and skill of Djalminha.

Did all the moves Ronaldinho later popularised. Pass with the back, elastico, etc. A special player who sealed them their first and only La Liga trophy in 99/00.
 

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If he gets to just 70% of Djalminha's level he would be my favorite player instantly. Such flair, cheekyness and skill of Djalminha.

Did all the moves Ronaldinho later popularised. Pass with the back, elastico, etc. A special player who sealed them their first and only La Liga trophy in 99/00.
Yes indeed, one of my all-time favourite players to watch who just missed out on the period where the game became truly globalised and proliferated.
 

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Yes indeed, one of my all-time favourite players to watch who just missed out on the period where the game became truly globalised and proliferated.
Very true. Even sent Depor through in CL with a Panenka penalty at the score 0-0 in the last 10 minutes at the San Siro against Milan around 2001. Ice cold.
 

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If he gets to just 70% of Djalminha's level he would be my favorite player instantly. Such flair, cheekyness and skill of Djalminha.

Did all the moves Ronaldinho later popularised. Pass with the back, elastico, etc. A special player who sealed them their first and only La Liga trophy in 99/00.
Dont do that. Thats a proper tease. Djalminha. Sigh. Oh to have prime Djalminha in the utd XI right now, they'd be breaking into OT to get intot he stands to watch. What a player. One of my all time favs aling with Ronaldinho. Off the cuff geniuses, something messi and ronaldo arent.
 

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Nope, keep going back to him when I am trying to remember, but it was somebody else.

Nearly bust my VCR re-watching Djalminha's rainbow flick at the time.

I have no idea who Djalminha is, did I miss something? I surely did watch a lot of football during that period.
 

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Finally finished to watching those games.

He's clearly above his age group. He may be good enough for first team football, but I wouldn't expect game changing/ game unlocking level. Not enough games, and don't see in any of these games, that he has unplayable ceiling. Therefore, I don't see this as Messi, Ronaldo level of talent. He's not explosive in his play, something those beast of young players show when they bursted into the scene.
 

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Finally finished to watching those games.

He's clearly above his age group. He may be good enough for first team football, but I wouldn't expect game changing/ game unlocking level. Not enough games, and don't see in any of these games, that he has unplayable ceiling. Therefore, I don't see this as Messi, Ronaldo level of talent. He's not explosive in his play, something those beast of young players show when they bursted into the scene.
What do you think his ceiling is and what can we expect from him.
 

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City V Atalanta UYL full game from last year. Diallo is the #10.


@Hoof The Ball You might be interested in this.
Different class. They couldn't handle him.

Had to laugh at City trying to take kick off during the celebrations. Even their u19s lack class or sportsmanship.
 

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Finally finished to watching those games.

He's clearly above his age group. He may be good enough for first team football, but I wouldn't expect game changing/ game unlocking level. Not enough games, and don't see in any of these games, that he has unplayable ceiling. Therefore, I don't see this as Messi, Ronaldo level of talent. He's not explosive in his play, something those beast of young players show when they bursted into the scene.
Many wanted Ronaldo sold after his first few seasons here. There was even many who woud've swapped him out for Aaron Lennon.
 

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Different class. They couldn't handle him.

Had to laugh at City trying to take kick off during the celebrations. Even their u19s lack class or sportsmanship.
His touch and technique is incredible and it really stands out when watching the games. He's a play making winger that with a bit of patience will be a very dangerous player as a inverted forward.
 

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Many wanted Ronaldo sold after his first few seasons here. There was even many who woud've swapped him out for Aaron Lennon.
Not me.

The problem with Ronaldo was his decision making. Explosiveness, relentless, dribbling, know when to pick up, the ball, agility, all kind of skill to pass, beating the defenders, power behind the shot.

Here, even when Amad Traore made the right decision, it feels as if he has some technical issue in his play, underhit pass, stumble on ball when dribble. Still good, but not special.

This lazy argument has been used for a while even for the like of Memphis Depay. Some player can improve vastly overtime, sure. However, when you have those hype job as Messi level, it's fair to assess strictly based on that touted level of talent.
 

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Not me.

The problem with Ronaldo was his decision making. Explosiveness, relentless, dribbling, know when to pick up, the ball, agility, all kind of skill to pass, beating the defenders, power behind the shot.

Here, even when Amad Traore made the right decision, it feels as if he has some technical issue in his play, underhit pass, stumble on ball when dribble. Still good, but not special.

This lazy argument has been used for a while even for the like of Memphis Depay. Some player can improve vastly overtime, sure. However, when you have those hype job as Messi level, it's fair to assess strictly based on that touted level of talent.
Ronaldo was very raw when he arrived at United, his passing and shooting was very erratic. In his first full start for us (Wolves if I'm not mistaken) he was poor. And in the first few years in general there was far too many games where his decision making along with what I've already mentioned was not upto scratch.

This kid probably won't ever reach the levels Ronaldo has reached. But IMO this kids touch, technique and linking up with his team mates is of a higher level at the same age.
 
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Ronaldo was very raw when he arrived at United, his passing and shooting was very erratic. In his first full start for us (Wolves if I'm not mistaken) he was poor. And in the first few years in general there was far too many games where his decision making along with what I've already mentioned was not upto scratch.

This kid probably won't ever reach the levels Ronaldo has reached. But IMO this kids touch, technique and linking up with his team mates is of a higher level at the same age.
Ronaldo passing decision was off, but technical wise, I don't see it raw. Raw I would think as under hit, over hit, Bebe like crossing. Ronaldo could rush thing and make a poor decision, odd pass, but given time, you don't see him misskill with his passing. Same with shooting. He used to focus on power shooting during his Sporting formation. At pro level, GK can deal with straight shooting. He had issue with trying to bend his shot both with accuracy and power. It took a quite to master, but it's not like he can't shoot when you compare to someone like Anderson.

You sold Ronaldo very sort if you think technical wise Ronaldo was at lower anything but decision making at same age. The friendly vs us should be easy to find. Ronaldo was central of Sporting attack in that game. He's unplayable for pro player and reigning PL champion at that time. Ronaldo short coming at young age is due to him trying to do crazy tricks.

Let's agree to disagree.
 

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Ronaldo passing decision was off, but technical wise, I don't see it raw. Raw I would think as under hit, over hit, Bebe like crossing. Ronaldo could rush thing and make a poor decision, odd pass, but given time, you don't see him misskill with his passing. Same with shooting. He used to focus on power shooting during his Sporting formation. At pro level, GK can deal with straight shooting. He had issue with trying to bend his shot both with accuracy and power. It took a quite to master, but it's not like he can't shoot when you compare to someone like Anderson.

You sold Ronaldo very sort if you think technical wise Ronaldo was at lower anything but decision making at same age. The friendly vs us should be easy to find. Ronaldo was central of Sporting attack in that game. He's unplayable for pro player and reigning PL champion at that time. Ronaldo short coming at young age is due to him trying to do crazy tricks.

Let's agree to disagree.
Ronaldo wasn't even considered the biggest talent coming through at SCP at the time. That was Ricardo Quaresma who most SCP fans said was the jewel from their academy.

This kid and Ronaldo at the same age are different players. Ronaldo was raw as far as passing and decision making goes at the same age. But I never said he was raw 'technically', but his attributes suited playing a more direct style whilst Diallo at the same age looks a player who is stronger technically in close quarters and has better link up play and passing which is pretty clear to me from the four full matches I've watched.

Diallo looks a play making winger who can also operate centrally and has a finesse about his game which is beautiful to watch. If he can turn into a world class player then I'm sure we will be very happy as United fans. I don't believe he'll be a Messi type player because IMO Messi is the best, but if he can perform to a similar level to Ansu Fati who is at Barca then that will mean we've hit the jackpot.
 

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Ronaldo was raw in almost every aspect at the beginning of his career at United, I think. Technically, he was definitely good but he was very unstable in terms of dribbling past players or beating defenders to creat space to pass the ball or shoot. He skills were mainly for showboating, very unpractical. He did improve a lot after the first three years; how he transformed himself is beyond my imagination.

Amad is better when corned in a small space. His combination of pace, technique, swiftness, agility, balance is simply better than any of United players coming to my mind. Maybe Giggs is the only exception, IMO.
 

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Not me.

The problem with Ronaldo was his decision making. Explosiveness, relentless, dribbling, know when to pick up, the ball, agility, all kind of skill to pass, beating the defenders, power behind the shot.

Here, even when Amad Traore made the right decision, it feels as if he has some technical issue in his play, underhit pass, stumble on ball when dribble. Still good, but not special.

This lazy argument has been used for a while even for the like of Memphis Depay. Some player can improve vastly overtime, sure. However, when you have those hype job as Messi level, it's fair to assess strictly based on that touted level of talent.
Ronaldo improved all facets of his play. He wasn't that explosive and fast when he arrived at the club, and he certainly wasn't that strong. He worked immensely hard on his physique (and his teeth) to become the player he later became. It wasn't just his decision making - he worked on pretty much everything. He dialled down the dribbling, and became much more direct even at United.

If anything, from the little I've seenof Diallo, he looks quicker off the mark and more nimble than Ronaldo - more like a Sterling type of player. Then again, I have only watched some Youtube videos.
 

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Ronaldo was raw in almost every aspect at the beginning of his career at United, I think. Technically, he was definitely good but he was very unstable in terms of dribbling past players or beating defenders to creat space to pass the ball or shoot. He skills were mainly for showboating, very unpractical. He did improve a lot after the first three years; how he transformed himself is beyond my imagination.

Amad is better when corned in a small space. His combination of pace, technique, swiftness, agility, balance is simply better than any of United players coming to my mind. Maybe Giggs is the only exception, IMO.
Giggs definitely had that in spades - amazing pace, acceleration, running with the ball, agility and first touch. He was taller with longer legs, so he also had the top speed to match that players like Sterling often lack. Injuries held him back from reaching that upper echelon of players, I think.
 

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This is our only signing I'm genuinely excited about. I'm relatively happy with Telles, a little meh on Cavani and I have no idea what to expect from the Uruguayan kid, but Traore seems outrageously gifted from what I've seen and heard. Just a bummer we have to wait until January to get a glimpse of him.
 

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Is he as quick as possible are claiming? Doesn't look it from the clips. Given his stature I guess that's the part where he'll have to adapt to English football the most.
 

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Doesn't look that quick to me. Reminds me a bit of Sancho.
 

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Can he beat a man from a standing position?
Expecting players to reach Messi/Ronaldo levels is a tad unrealistic.
If he can reach peak Nani levels I'd be extremely pleased.
 

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Actually no, I haven't. I rarely watch full games unless it's United playing. But I am of the opinion that youtube highlights gives one a good idea of the type of player at hand as well as his strengths etc. Clubs have scouts watching full games of players for months and still around 50 % of all signings end up flopping or underwhelming.
:lol: youtube scouts would love to have 50% success
 

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Its stupid to even mention Messi and Ronaldo - to compare any player to arguably the 2 best attacking players in the history of football (yes I rank them both above Pele and Maradona) - is so completely unrealistic. We have seen players at that level or close to that level, maybe 6-7-8 times in 60 years of football. It could be 10-15 years until we see someone like that again