Telegraph Football: Man Utd looking to appoint director of football this summer | Appointed

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Emenalo is terrible, at Monaco people thought that he was a really nice guy but absolutely useless.
Yeah, I mean that totally settles it, people at Monaco are the ultimate arbiters of the quality of a DOF.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/12/antonio-conte-emelano-chelsea-tough-season
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/nov/06/michael-emenalo-quits-chelsea-technical-director
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...he-narrative-that-white-is-good-has-to-change
 

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A DoF might want to have a plan and spend some money on football, surely the Glazers can't allow such preposterous audacity?
 

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Definitely a few giggles going on at other big clubs when they’re dealing with Woodward every Summer.
 

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There're literally thousands of people who can do his job as an accountant at PWC and/or M&A at JPM. Thousands. You're insane if you think Ed Woodward is somewhat special or a master deal maker - because the evidence on the finance and the footballing side points the opposite way.
If you believe an accountant can do sponsorship deals for one of the biggest sport clubs in the world, I really don't want to argue any further. I don't want to stoop down to your level.
 

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If you believe an accountant can do sponsorship deals for one of the biggest sport clubs in the world, I really don't want to argue any further. I don't want to stoop down to your level.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

That's literally what he is - Edward Gareth Woodward (born 9 November 1971) is an English accountant and investment banker who is the executive vice-chairman of Manchester United F.C., and effectively the chief executive overseeing the club's operations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Woodward

And for what is worth, Richard Arnold is mostly responsible for the management and growth of the sponsorship business, retail, merchandising, apparel & product licensing business, and mobile & content business.

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That's literally what he is - Edward Gareth Woodward (born 9 November 1971) is an English accountant and investment banker who is the executive vice-chairman of Manchester United F.C., and effectively the chief executive overseeing the club's operations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Woodward

And for what is worth, Richard Arnold is mostly responsible for the management and growth of the sponsorship business, retail, merchandising, apparel & product licensing business, and mobile & content business.

You're welcome.
From his wiki you decide to take that he is an accountant and not an investment banker? Do you think every accountant is also an investment banker? Plus, that's his previous profession, now he is executive vice-chairman of Manchester United, hope you realise that.

Anyway, I don't want to convince you to understand anything. I'm sure life is tough enough and has taken its toll already.
 

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This “appointment” tells us everything we need to know about the organisation of our club.

Piss. Absolute piss.
 

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Tuesdays’s back page headline, I’m sure.
 

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Every time we have a bad loss the journos run with this story.
 

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Finally, good job Ed, bit to late but every United sheep is behind you
 

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The fact that the club are just stubbornly not appointing one because don't want to admit they are wrong is a joke
 

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I have it from a very reliable source that Ed was texting the new DoF at the game yesterday, so stay tuned
 

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Back to searching again. 6 years and no suitable candidate.
 

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Sam Lockwood does a decent job here

Q: Any chance of a new Director of Football to take over player acquisition?

SL: I'm confident I'll live to see the day United appoint a DoF but I think those of us who cover the club can be forgiven for feeling fobbed off. United communicated in March 2019 they were close to filling the role and here we are, 19 months later, and there is still no DoF. United have still talked about the role and stressed it would not just be about doing transfers.

The feeling is Woodward doesn't want to relinquish too much control because he likes doing what he does, even though the word last year was he has nothing to do with recruitment (I no longer believe that), He was pleased about a piece on the MEN that suggested he was United's de facto DoF and there are perks that come with that image. The reality is he's not competent at executing transfers and United need someone else.

Q: It seems like Ed Woodward and Matt Judge are immune from criticism within the club and it seems very unlikely the Glazers will make a change. Why are the Glazers so content with this constant failure?

SL: Because Woodward makes money for them. The Glazers have not contributed a single cent to United. They siphon off the club to make as much money as possible and nobody at United can credibly claim they actually care about how the club is performing. They only care about how much money they are making. So they might be unhappy about the lack of outgoings.

Q: Do you think United are content with CL money and have no ambitions to progress further? Very much like Arsenal of the past. Also the sponsorship deals allow the club to miss the CL one season without it being detrimental to their revenue stream. The cynic in me thinks they will only care to invest next season after me miss out on CL next season so they revenue stream isn't hurt.

SL: You've hit the nail on the head. They have become Wenger's Arsenal, post-2005. That's extremely disheartening for supporters but the club is in a sorry state and many fans feared this when the takeover happened in 2005. Just recall how modern Old Trafford used to be and how unimpressive it is now. The stadium, the squad, the academy: all of them have been neglected at various stages.

Q: The transfer business of Wolves and Leeds shames the business of United. Do the Glazers ignore the bad press? I can't see how they cannot hear the discontent, how they can be proud of the performances. How long before the sponsors dry up, why will the sponsors want to give money to be on the shirts of a team with no ambition of being champions?

SL: The Glazers just ignore the press. And the supporters. They don't communicate with either.


Q: Why did Phil Jones and Marcos Rojo receive new contracts?

SL: Woodward touched upon this in his UWS interview without actually answering it. The answer is most likely that because the deal-makers have little or no football knowledge they just cocked it up again.


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https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ancho-19041201
 

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It won't help us unless we sign Jesus Christ of Nazareth as our DOF.
 

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Oh feck off with that shit. It has gotten much more tiresome than Gaitan and Garay put together.
 

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We are waiting for Van Der Sar or waiting for Ole to be DOF and Poch to be manager.

The only things I can think of.
 

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Q: It seems like Ed Woodward and Matt Judge are immune from criticism within the club and it seems very unlikely the Glazers will make a change. Why are the Glazers so content with this constant failure?

SL: Because Woodward makes money for them. The Glazers have not contributed a single cent to United. They siphon off the club to make as much money as possible and nobody at United can credibly claim they actually care about how the club is performing. They only care about how much money they are making. So they might be unhappy about the lack of outgoings.
Many around here would do well to take note of this.
 

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Why do some (including in the media) think it makes any sense to move Ole into a DoF role?

I would think the first condition for that role to be meaningful, is for the person appointed to have authority, to have leverage, to not just be happy to be here and not rock the boat. There was an interview with Rangnick where he spoke about United and said such a role has to be vested with authority.

Besides the fact Ole has no experience there and it's hard to think over the last couple of years he's managed to convince some players to join who otherwise wouldn't, or that he unearthed a gem, he himself, personally.

Not that it matters, there won't be one until the club is sold, in all likelihood. Just keep seeing people suggesting this
 

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Director of football would have limited impact, they would still be reporting to the Glazers and looking for their signature on a cheque.
 

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Q: Any chance of a new Director of Football to take over player acquisition?

SL: I'm confident I'll live to see the day United appoint a DoF but I think those of us who cover the club can be forgiven for feeling fobbed off. United communicated in March 2019 they were close to filling the role and here we are, 19 months later, and there is still no DoF. United have still talked about the role and stressed it would not just be about doing transfers.

The feeling is Woodward doesn't want to relinquish too much control because he likes doing what he does, even though the word last year was he has nothing to do with recruitment (I no longer believe that), He was pleased about a piece on the MEN that suggested he was United's de facto DoF and there are perks that come with that image. The reality is he's not competent at executing transfers and United need someone else.

Q: It seems like Ed Woodward and Matt Judge are immune from criticism within the club and it seems very unlikely the Glazers will make a change. Why are the Glazers so content with this constant failure?

SL: Because Woodward makes money for them. The Glazers have not contributed a single cent to United. They siphon off the club to make as much money as possible and nobody at United can credibly claim they actually care about how the club is performing. They only care about how much money they are making. So they might be unhappy about the lack of outgoings.

Q: Do you think United are content with CL money and have no ambitions to progress further? Very much like Arsenal of the past. Also the sponsorship deals allow the club to miss the CL one season without it being detrimental to their revenue stream. The cynic in me thinks they will only care to invest next season after me miss out on CL next season so they revenue stream isn't hurt.

SL: You've hit the nail on the head. They have become Wenger's Arsenal, post-2005. That's extremely disheartening for supporters but the club is in a sorry state and many fans feared this when the takeover happened in 2005. Just recall how modern Old Trafford used to be and how unimpressive it is now. The stadium, the squad, the academy: all of them have been neglected at various stages.

Q: The transfer business of Wolves and Leeds shames the business of United. Do the Glazers ignore the bad press? I can't see how they cannot hear the discontent, how they can be proud of the performances. How long before the sponsors dry up, why will the sponsors want to give money to be on the shirts of a team with no ambition of being champions?

SL: The Glazers just ignore the press. And the supporters. They don't communicate with either.


Q: Why did Phil Jones and Marcos Rojo receive new contracts?

SL: Woodward touched upon this in his UWS interview without actually answering it. The answer is most likely that because the deal-makers have little or no football knowledge they just cocked it up again.


full article


https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ancho-19041201
How utterly depressing and accurate this read is. The club is being drained to death by these vampires. It would take a massive offer to be rid of them and it’s not coming anytime soon.
 

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Director of football would have limited impact, they would still be reporting to the Glazers and looking for their signature on a cheque.
Which would be normal at all clubs with a similar setup . All they (Glazer's) need to do is give the Sporting director a set budget whether that's £50m, £100m or whatever, every year.

I honestly believe we can challenge for titles under the current structure too. But it requires a manager who knows the market and will sign players that have value. Because currently we're throwing money away on players who don't fit the profile and people are saying we couldn't take a risk hence signing Maguire, AWB who are completely unsuited to playing high up the pitch.

When you spend a world record sum on a CB and still require funds for a additional CB then it's not hard to see what the problem is. We can blame the Glazer's for a lot of things but we can't blame them for not backing the managers.
 
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I, for one, don't think that Ole has bought particularly well, although the jury is obviously out on the players that came in this window. Am sure that transfers are not entirely down to him, but he must have a huge say in matters, so i'd rather not have him.
Also, isn't a DoF meant to identify players that would fit in the team's tactics? I don't think some of the players that came in have really fit Ole's style (or lack of!), Ighalo being a prime example.
 

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What I and many others have said for several years now. 'Sporting direction'

 

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'Ed Woodward - the man who sunk the titanic'
Much as I dislike Craig Burley, his comment was brilliant...
"It’s just been another shambolic window from a club, one of the biggest clubs in the world that is still trying to play catch up. Once again we’ve seen the hierarchy of this football club stumble around like drunks on a Friday night trying to sign players and quite frankly it’s just not good enough" :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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Solskjær: “We’ve got good people running our club. It’s not for me to say [whether there should be a director of football]

Come on,Ole.:rolleyes:
 

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I don't understand why he keeps defending Ed and the rest of the hierarchy.

Totally understand not wanting to criticize your bosses in public, but at least respond with a "no comment" or something along those lines instead of replying positively.
 

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I don't understand why he keeps defending Ed and the rest of the hierarchy.

Totally understand not wanting to criticize your bosses in public, but at least respond with a "no comment" or something along those lines instead of replying positively.
If he gets sacked he’s going to get paid off and he’ll sign a non disclosure agreement, he’ll always allude to the fact he wasn’t properly backed anytime he’s asked. Truth we might never hear the truth about what actually goes so wrong behind the scenes. We go and hire another manager to take the fall and the circle starts again. It’s really starting to look like we need a head coach and a dof more than a manager.
 

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I don't understand why he keeps defending Ed and the rest of the hierarchy.
Well he does claim he models himself to a degree on Fergie, so like Alex did when he would come out with that rubbish "no value in the transfer market" when we miss out on a player or didnt spend the CR7 money, he might see it as not a postive thing to do.
 
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