tbf it’s no different than the widely admired bundesliga system of relegation. The only contentious part is the voting rights IMO.
Great post!
And I think it’s plain to see that by reducing the games and getting rid of efl cup and charity shield they can have prolonged money making tours...
And also to reduce fixture congestion for the expanded champions league. Let’s not make a mountain out of a molehill on that point. Also, let’s not entirely dismiss non local supporters as the pre season games would be played for fans abroad who wouldn’t otherwise get to see their team. PL fans are global and although the priority is with local fans, global fans deserve the chance to see their teams too.
Pre season games are crap though. Speaking as a foreign PL fan, watching United play competitive matches, and watching them play pre season matches, there's no way I would pay to attend that crap. I may be in a minority here of course, but those pre season matches between top teams are genuinely awful to watch.
Yes but I bet if it was in your neighbourhood and you could get an actual ticket to the game you’d go. For some foreign fans in certain regions that’s a once in a lifetime opportunity.
While I have loved going to preseason friendlies, I would rather they stay at home, train in England and get fit. They are and English football team and I think its rediculous that they owe us foreign fans an opportunity to see them play in my own country. I also think its rediculous that the NFL has regular season games in London.
I don't think so. I mean I've been to Old Trafford twice, and that was cool, but for me it was more about the experience of going to an actual live, competitive match, and soaking in the atmosphere, rather than actually seeing the players. In isolation, I don't really care about seeing the players themselves live, per se, it was about seeing proper football live, and the atmosphere. Again I'm probably just an outlier since there are people that crowd around to try to get autographs and stuff, and things like that don't appeal to me, so you may very well be right and for a lot of people just the chance to see the players themselves in real life would be considered special.
Their reforms actually increase the likelihood of being relegated
Fair enough. All those points you’ve highlighted with regard to the premier league wouldn’t be altered with the proposed new system though. The only difference would be that it would be harder for a bottom half team to do another Leicester. In any case, what Leicester did would in all probability not happen again for 50 years with or without this proposed new system. There’s a lot of over reactional hysteria these days for just about every change, big and small.
Or to possibly introduce the well documented (and well opposed) plans for a “super league”. I don’t disagree with your point about the global fan base but we all know this isn’t being done with supporters in mind, purely driven by money.
interesting point, a younger friend of mine went to see an Arsenal game at the Emirates a while back and rather than talk about the atmosphere (maybe it was due to the game being at the Emirates) or the actual game ; he only focussed on the point that he had seen certain, high profile, individual players on the pitch and then getting on the coach to leave.
I think you’ll (As I suggested earlier) find this proposal is a counter proposal to English football to stop them joining a European super league. The chairman of the FA pretty much admitted that already I.e clubs threatened to leave for a breakaway league if these negotiations don’t work for them.
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Over time, if 9 or so select clubs snatch a large portion of TV income, it could become a fatal blow to the remaining 11 clubs' on-pitch quality. The compitition they offer will degrade. The league would become a lot more like the Spanish one where Madrid and Barca are guaranteed 20 relatively easy league fixtures in a season. While those two often dominate Europe, interest in La Liga worldwide is no match for the kind of interest the Premier League generates.
Aren't they paying to watch Manchester United vs Spurs or United vs Westbrom?
However, if you grant the “elite” all of the voting power then future attempts to break away or form mid season super tournaments will be easier to achieve. Maybe I’m wide of the mark here but there is definitely something more sinister going on than just two American billionaire owners having the intentions of saving English football. They are business owners not football lovers.
I'm in Ghana, West Africa. Will I get the chance to see Chelsea play Asante Kotoko(biggest local club) if the league was reduced to 18 teams? If so I'll be all for it but if its just so they can gran more money in China and USA then its not really for global fanbase's benefit is it? I'll still only get to watch them on paid TV.
Well I’m sure each club would look to satisfy fans from as many different regions as possible that with games against local teams as they often do whether that’s Ghana, USA or China or elsewhere. I’m sure Chelsea have fans outside of Ghana as well.
Could not agree more, this is a cycnical attempt to boost the already biggest teams and feck the others, wrapped up with a loan that the PL would have to take on to help out EFL and grassroots. The only good thing about this is taking away parachute payments which have poisoned the championship.
They are very different to the Glazers. I used to work with a guy who headed up one of the LFC supporter groups that protested against Hicks & Gillett, when FSG took over they held a meeting with the heads of the main 3/4 supporter groups to prove they weren't just more of the same and talk through the vision for the club (which by and large has remained true to this day), of which my colleague was one. He struck up a good relationship with Werner to the point where 10 years later they're still in regular text contact & he has literally holidayed at Werners home in Boston.
The most horrendous re-organization
That's not the point though is it? This us not some benevolent gesture from the top clubs to reach out to the global fanbase, it's a deliberate attempt to feck over some of the smaller teams NY reducing the league games so they can create more time to rake in more revenue from the big global markets of China and USA. They've even made provisions in the proposal for a compulsory overseas PL. Guess where those will be held? Not Ghana that's for sure.
That’s obviously a possibility. However, It’s Probably either this or an instant super league. Competitions like the champions league will be fixed for a 10 year period from 2023, so you would at least get 12 years of PL before that has a poss
if 100 million people turn up to see united West Brom and 1 m
The main reason may or may not be to make money but that doesn’t automatically mean there aren’t other non monetary related positives. Your preference is obviously Ghana, but I’m sure there are fans in other regions that would like to see Chelsea to play there as well.
At this point I hope at least 60-65% of our fanbase knows this.
Unfortunately the offer of £250 million to lower tiers will sway a big majority.
That money is a one off, after that, the clubs will have to fend for themselves with no other help ever again.
Nice people alright.
Never once said they were nice people.
That’s not actually true. It says that 25% of all pl revenue will go to efl every year. That’s why they’re so in favour of it.
