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Now we got Pellestri and Diallo, I think this one might be permanently dead.
I think so too. Buying two wingers, both predominantly right sided ones, would be an odd purchase if we were going to chase him next summer.Now we got Pellestri and Diallo, I think this one might be permanently dead.
Saying traore is currently at a higher level than sancho was two seasons ago is surely a bit mental. He hasnt even played a full game in serie A yet. A quick search shows sancho had 27 goals and assists in 2018/19 and 5 in 12 apps the year beforeThere's a reason City, Bayern, Chelsea didn't go for Sancho. Nobody wants to pay 100m for a winger. That money should be saved for a proper no.9 now that we have a few more wingers. Amad Traore looks currently at a higher level at 18 than Sancho was 2 yrs ago. Not saying he will reach same level but he doesn't have to. We need a top level no.9 and top level defensive midfielder...remember when Matic hit his heights when we signed him we finished second.
Yeah. Financially we're in a better spot to get him now. Other areas, maybe not so much.If nobody wants to pay 100 million for him that's good for us as he will be leaving either way.
Ye olde "the coaches actually watch him in training and can compare him to other players" reasoning... gotta love common senseYe olde "the manager is always right" reasoning...gotta love it
Completely agree! Plus he broke COVID rules. Wouldn’t even take him on a free now. The new Ravel M..., ahh no, I meant the new Dembele.Don’t want, he’s got tattoos and I hear those types are trouble.
Don’t want, he’s got tattoos and I hear those types are trouble.
So you think that the coach is alread right in his picks? You have never questioned a coach and believe all their selections are correct? Time to learn how to think for yourself and see the obvious errors there mate. But if you think that Mason Mount is better than Jadon Sancho, then who am I to argue with such sound logic...Ye olde "the coaches actually watch him in training and can compare him to other players" reasoning... gotta love common sense
Way to load up on the straw man arguments. Your original statement essentially asked when will Southgate start Sancho based on his stats as a teenager. The point is he actually sees him in training, competing against other teammates, and picks him based on a larger information set than "He's a teenager and tearing up the Bundesliga". Yes, the logic is sound.So you think that the coach is alread right in his picks? You have never questioned a coach and believe all their selections are correct? Time to learn how to think for yourself and see the obvious errors there mate. But if you think that Mason Mount is better than Jadon Sancho, then who am I to argue with such sound logic...
Where in this itw are they sounding regretful?Dortmund sound like they are slightly regretful rejecting a decent bid by us & want us to come next season for him. Not a 120 million player even at his best.
https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/dor...udged-by-manchester/jkjqknom9wg31t6r7davg068y
It doesn’t say anything about that in the article.Dortmund sound like they are slightly regretful rejecting a decent bid by us & want us to come next season for him. Not a 120 million player even at his best.
https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/dor...udged-by-manchester/jkjqknom9wg31t6r7davg068y
your argument is "the coach sees him every day so he must be right". If that's the case then we might as well shut down this website because there's no point in expressing any opinion that isn't the exact same as the managers...Way to load up on the straw man arguments. Your original statement essentially asked when will Southgate start Sancho based on his stats as a teenager. The point is he actually sees him in training, competing against other teammates, and picks him based on a larger information set than "He's a teenager and tearing up the Bundesliga". Yes, the logic is sound.
Where in this itw are they sounding regretful?
Well obviously they are going to come out crying -It doesn’t say anything about that in the article.
I get your point mate, but this sounds more like the journalist trying to spin it this way. Maybe something lost in translation, choice of words etc.I've probably tried to align things together unnaturally- but going from 'we want this for Sancho & no offers" to "United misunderstood the transfer, we would have compromised, he is sale next season" sounds a little like they want this done now.
I don’t know though, I just can’t see the connection. All the journalists have said about it that the ones who’s to blamed was United. That word ‘’United misunderstood’’ looks to me that United didn’t take the 5th august deadline thing seriously and didn’t take the message that if United want to get Sancho after 5th August deadline, it needs to be 120m euro.Well obviously they are going to come out crying -
But would any other club talk about a player who was leaving after the transfer window is done.
They are talking about him not being unsellable, how United had misunderstood their transfer request and that they would have accepted offers and have comprised for his sale.
That's a bit different to the team that had apparently just stuck at a transfer fee and were happy to keep him if United didnt match their request throughout all the transfer window.
I've probably tried to align things together unnaturally- but going from 'we want this for Sancho & no offers" to "United misunderstood the transfer, we would have compromised, he is sale next season" sounds a little like they want this done now.
Where in this itw are they sounding regretful?
He said that they are willing to compromise next season. I loved how Dortmund secretly extended his contract till the summer of 2023 so this still puts Dortmund in a strong position. I'm glad we did not go for him this transfer window, Sancho is not worth this fee and Dortmund knows it.It doesn’t say anything about that in the article.
Ah okay. Makes sense as the other posters said.He actually said more like the opposite. He said that there maybe was a club that was interested in signing Sancho, but maybe that club misjudged the situation by thinking they were open to negotiations, but Dortmund clear line [the sum they agreed with Sancho beforehand]. It was as 20 minute interview where Sancho was a peripheral topic at best and this is a deliberately misleading translation.
No. The argument is "the coach sees in him training w/ his competition, so bringing up Sancho's age and what he's done in the Bundesliga as a stick to beat Southgate with is odd".your argument is "the coach sees him every day so he must be right". If that's the case then we might as well shut down this website because there's no point in expressing any opinion that isn't the exact same as the managers...
That’s because Sancho has said himself to the club that he wants to leave while Dortmund will keep their promise as long as the club can find an agreement for the price.He said that they are willing to compromise next season. I loved how Dortmund secretly extended his contract till the summer of 2023 so this still puts Dortmund in a strong position. I'm glad we did not go for him this transfer window, Sancho is not worth this fee and Dortmund knows it.
My reservation is for players that are non-Zlatan and have lions tattooed on their backs. Otherwise ok.Don’t want, he’s got tattoos and I hear those types are trouble.
It would hurt me so much if he plays for any other club but usI'm still gutted this didn't happen, would have put a completely different complexion on the season ahead
Still hope we can revive a deal in Jan or next summer but with all these young right wingers we've signed it seems we've almost accepted he's going somewhere else then
SameIt would hurt me so much if he plays for any other club but us
In what way? We would at best make CL qualification againI'm still gutted this didn't happen, would have put a completely different complexion on the season ahead
Still hope we can revive a deal in Jan or next summer but with all these young right wingers we've signed it seems we've almost accepted he's going somewhere else then
All the best teams in Europe have managed so far without him including the best team in Germany. Its all the end of the worldIt would hurt me so much if he plays for any other club but us
Yes and without him that's now going to be a real struggleIn what way? We would at best make CL qualification again
Let’s not cry over a player who has never even played for us. We don’t need to be spending £120m on a player just to get CL qualification.Yes and without him that's now going to be a real struggle
His age, nationality, potential, and performance so far make him worth 100m, imho. Then his profile for marketing and to attract good players are all adding up to be a good "big investment".Is he really worth 100 million?
The guy has so many quiet games outside the Bundesliga.
Is that Dortmund then building the price up for us rather than what the player is worth?His age, nationality, potential, and performance so far make him worth 100m, imho. Then his profile for marketing and to attract good players are all adding up to be a good "big investment".
It's just when watching us tonight, I kept thinking, what did we need? Where would we start Sancho?