European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?


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SilentWitness

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If I were the PL I’d let them do it. I don’t think it will work and a couple of teams will cry and want to come back. PL should then tell them to get fecked and if they want to come back they can start at the bottom of the football pyramid.
 

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The article reads like it's some kind of replacement of the Champions League rather than big clubs deserting their domestic leagues for good.
 

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The bottom line is this:

The founding clubs can't be relegated for 20 years

Can you imagine the Glazers hard-on for this rule? That means you have to invest f-- all and still cash in your yearly checks.
 

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The article reads like it's some kind of replacement of the Champions League rather than big clubs deserting their domestic leagues for good.
If it’s an 18 team league then realistically you can’t expect to fit pl matches in too can you?
 

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The article reads like it's some kind of replacement of the Champions League rather than big clubs deserting their domestic leagues for good.
No chance we give up on that sweet sweet domestic broadcasting revenue.

Although it makes sense as to why the elites want to shorten the number of teams so they can play more European fixtures.

We were also trying to grab a much bigger share of the domestic broadcasting revenue by enticing the smaller teams with a one off payment.
 

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Imagine how shite we'll be in this.
 

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If it’s an 18 team league then realistically you can’t expect to fit pl matches in too can you?
They could split it into two mini leagues and then end with a tournament.

The possibilities are endless with American sports leagues setting the standard :lol:
 

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The game died a while ago, this will be the nail in the coffin.

We’ll actually have to buy players to be competitive at least :lol:
 

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If I were the PL I’d let them do it. I don’t think it will work and a couple of teams will cry and want to come back. PL should then tell them to get fecked and if they want to come back they can start at the bottom of the football pyramid.
The PL would go bankrupt if the top teams left. Lets not kid ourselves here.
 

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I imagine there is a lot of pressure froM Europe on the pl to make this happen before the pl tv rights are due to renew. The continents biggest clubs are effectively being squeezed out by the revenue generated by pl tv rights and I know Madrid have been pushing this for over a decade.
As the club with the largest viewership in world football currently tied to the PL, we are effectively the power brokers in what will happen to world club football for the next half century. My preference is for a premier league that can enforce FFP as nation states have compromised the UEFA executive. That amongst some less savoury offerings was what we were pitching for in project big picture.

the government will be trying to broker a compromise between us and the premier league. FIFA and most of the rest of the world will try to force a super league on us. Shit will get really heated. I don’t think people really understand the amount of pressure on us and the PL to cede club football power which is increasingly gravitating to the pl and English clubs. We are the focal point of all that political pressure as well. If you ask some people, Maguire incident in Greece was political and a message from the continent regrading this issue, which Brexit has amplified.
 
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The PL would go bankrupt if the top teams left. Lets not kid ourselves here.
We make up about 70% of viewership figures for the pl with foreign audiences. If we go, the entire league falls apart. No one will admit this public ally but they know we hold English club footballs future in our hands. We effectively wrote project big picture but got Liverpool to take the heat for it.
 

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How would this even work? If we leave the PL, then we'll probably leave the FA Cup and League Cup too, no? Also, what is the point of the CL in this scenario? :lol:

Are we turning into the NBA for football? Perhaps there will be a draft? Instead of the Western Conference and the Eastern Conference, we'll have the Rainy Conference and the Sunny Conference? :lol:
 

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Sky News has learned. Who from? Sources. Sources that know so much they don't even know whether Uefa are involved or not involved. Great sources then. It's bollocks.
 

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It seems clear that it will be a new format to replace the Champions League. There is no need to leave the national leagues.
 

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UEFA recently announced a reduction in prize money moving forward, didn't they? Might be a response to this. Either way this is the dream scenario for our owners and board, hope it goes nowhere.
 

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Would be cool if UEFA/FIFA and FA just kicks the clubs out of all of their competitions.

And biathlon takes over as a rightful world leading sport.
 

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If it’s an 18 team league then realistically you can’t expect to fit pl matches in too can you?
You're probably right, it's a farcical proposal anyway, and one that would greatly diminish my interest in the sport.
 

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Sky News has learned. Who from? Sources. Sources that know so much they don't even know whether Uefa are involved or not involved. Great sources then. It's bollocks.
UEFA might deliberately not want to get involved. European football politics is murky at the best of times but Sky are as reputable a source as you get, and are effectively becoming a mouthpiece for us. Given that this is a club controlled competition UEFA would Naturally be against it though, as their entire purpose is built around governing football in Europe
 
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Looks like this is meant to replace the Champions League, not the Premier. It would add at least 34 games if a18 team league plays home and away. I imagine the domestic cups would go and you will see players rested in games the clubs see are against easier opponents.

This will hit the local fans hard, especially the match going fans. However, in all honest its not going to affect me or fans like me all that much, what with me being 3000 miles away and watching every United game on home TV. Unless they go totally pay for view which will price a lot of overseas fans out of the market. The sad thing is that owners like the Glazers see the overseas markets as more lucrative than the local ones and will likely continue to push for a European Super League.
 

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3 new teams every year. There’s a chance with this idea that there won’t be new teams each year.
do you really look forward to United v *newly promoted club*? or do you look forward more so to United v Liverpool, City, etc?
 

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My position would be if it’s two group 8 leagues of 16 with a knock out following then fine, but if it’s a single domestic formatted league then no way. It would take over domestic football.
 

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Any changes these days are made with the primary focus of money.

So no, they can sod off.

And yes, I do know everything is about money, but I doubt any of these changes are for footballing reasons.

There is nothing wrong with the current way of things, so it should just be left as is. My love for football is waning severely.
 

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I think we will probably exit the carabao cup if the new european league is really an 18 team league that plays home and away.
 

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The game died a while ago, this will be the nail in the coffin.

We’ll actually have to buy players to be competitive at least :lol:
The "Founders" (vom) are immune from the indignation of suffering relegation for 20 years. So in effect we can remain stagnant and live off the name for a while longer yet.
 

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No chance we give up on that sweet sweet domestic broadcasting revenue.

Although it makes sense as to why the elites want to shorten the number of teams so they can play more European fixtures.

We were also trying to grab a much bigger share of the domestic broadcasting revenue by enticing the smaller teams with a one off payment.
American owners are taking an absolute battering online today, but the other three top 6 clubs who aren't owned by Americans would likely co-sign this in a heartbeat.
 

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We make up about 70% of viewership figures for the pl with foreign audiences. If we go, the entire league falls apart. No one will admit this public ally but they know we hold English club footballs future in our hands. We effectively wrote project big picture but got Liverpool to take the heat for it.
Nothing would please the glazers more than negotiating seperate broadcasting revenue for TV. We'd be easily the biggest sports organisation in the world (at least financially).

This whole project big picture/European super league is the next best alternative for them.
 

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Maybe change the thread title so people get that it would be a CL replacement
 

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The Glazers won't even need to bother aiming for top four. Think of the money they would save.
 

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The Glazers won't even need to bother aiming for top four. Think of the money they would save.
Worryingly close to what they’re probably thinking. Cue endless mediocrity.
 

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But it's not like United play Chelsea or Liverpool every two weeks. And you usually face them twice minimum over a season.

There isn't much risk or reward in this format. It's hardly a league, just a glorified knockout competition that relies on the luck of the draw.
That wouldn't be the case in this league either, there's 18 teams vs the PL having 20. Would be exciting IMO depending on who actually joins.
 

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do you really look forward to United v *newly promoted club*? or do you look forward more so to United v Liverpool, City, etc?
Well as I support Everton i'm not as entitled as a United fan.
 

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This with VAR and whats the fecking point.
Indeed.

I’m fast coming to realise that the one and only thing I miss about United games now is the social side and meeting mates/lads at the game.

Not sure I’ll retain for my ST forever like I always thought I would
 

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It’s a way to generate huge amounts of cash so that the likes of Barca don’t go bankrupt
Have you noticed that Barca and Real never go after City's players but really target and try to unsettle ours over the last 10 years or so? It's no coincidence and all part of their efforts to try and coerce us into a European Super League to save their asses.