Here they come after a draw with Chelsea. SAF always beat Chelsea.
Would you sack or keep Ole? (Poll reopened)
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Whilst some of the comments on here are over the top, this part is sadly true. LVG tried to play attacking football at least but Jose and Ole (or Jole) play a very similar reactive style that really isn't very inspiring. If a team doesn't attack us and commit men forward, we are powerless even against some of the teams where we literally have better players in every single position.
A draw against a leaky Chelsea defence at home is par now? How many times did we look like scoring? We deserve to be where we are with fans like you happy to accept the shite on a stick football we serve up so often. We are now officially Liverpool - boring, game-raising cnuts.Dropped pointsYeah right
It was a tough game for both teams.
Probably could have and should have put 2 or 3 away today. Mendy saved them on numerous occasions today.
It was not a great performance and he was certainly accountable for odd personelle selections. I don't think there's anything toxic to point that out. He gets praised when he's bang on, and criticised when he's making very odd decisions.
You thought Chelsea defended poorly?
Its fecking embarrassing, a draw against another top team and we still have "fans" spewing bile. It was a shite game to watch, but both sides defended really well and looked off the boil in attack.
Pretty dire performance that once again emphasises our inability to unlock a defence that doesn't give us space. We created nothing really, and, aside from Rashford at the end, had no real chances.
Played at a very slow pace.
It was an awful game.
Also, why no De Beek?
Played at a very slow pace.
It was an awful game.
Also, why no De Beek?
Struggling against a deep sitting side? Nahhhh no way
That is literally not the same story. We finished third last year in Ole’s first full season!
It’s a long season. No point worrying about stuff now.
Where were they?
Are people not tired of the poor > poor > poor > pressure starts to mount > pulls flukey win(s) > redcafe fans rejoice > back to being poor pattern yet?
I know I should expect nothing less from you but you are like one of those people that play sport for participation, not for winning. Unfortunately, MUFC is meant to be a professional outfit which aims to win.Dropped points
Ole must be on drug. How can James start in front of Cavani, Pogba, Greenwood and VDB. What wrong with him? Stupid manager!!@#$#% I seriously hope I don't ever see him manage a football club. What a joke?
Ole is not an elite manager but he's proving to be a capable one. If you want to replace him you need to get someone who's clearly better than him. I don't know who that manager is. Poch is being touted. I would like him as a manager but there are questions about his ability to actually win a trophy.
At the present, Ole will get the full season unless results start going awfully bad. I think that's the right decision even though ultimately I don't think Ole is the guy.
There isn't just a Klopp or a Guardiola available who you can say would be an immediate and significant improvement. Every other candidate available has draw bucks. And if Ole still has the players backing and is getting some results, it's hard to axe him
At the present, Ole will get the full season unless results start going awfully bad. I think that's the right decision even though ultimately I don't think Ole is the guy.
There isn't just a Klopp or a Guardiola available who you can say would be an immediate and significant improvement. Every other candidate available has draw bucks. And if Ole still has the players backing and is getting some results, it's hard to axe him
They would be if our manager wasn't Ole.
First 3 home games, 0 wins, 1 goal from open play, 9 conceded and Dan James back in the first eleven, but you are a “worse supporter” if you are concerned.
Ole has followed a good result up with another mistake. It’s Chelsea at home with long-standing defensive issues, play your best team and give yourself the best possible chance.
It’s one step forward and one step back. Exactly the same. The squad is looking a lot fuller (and he has to get some credit for that), but still no consistency or any concrete ideas about best eleven or best formation. It’s been two years and it’s still as up and down as ever.
So frustrating.
Ole has followed a good result up with another mistake. It’s Chelsea at home with long-standing defensive issues, play your best team and give yourself the best possible chance.
It’s one step forward and one step back. Exactly the same. The squad is looking a lot fuller (and he has to get some credit for that), but still no consistency or any concrete ideas about best eleven or best formation. It’s been two years and it’s still as up and down as ever.
So frustrating.
Ole keeps chosing the wrong team and the wrong formation. James was awful. He cant beat his man, cross or make a pass. He is sticking with the 4231 sh!te. I don't get it. He does not have any decent wingers so it is just stupid to play that system. He withdrew mata who was our best player. He keeps cramminig centre forwards into midfield/winger positions. He dropped Axel who deserved to keep his place. I worry for him. Really bad management.
Are you serious? There’s people asking for him to be sacked on here and saying he doesn’t have a clue. Were they saying that for the last two games? It’s pathetic.
I think though we absolutely need to stop with 4-2-3-1 bullshit. Time to shift to another formation that suits other players.
that's all this. PSG tactics were great, we all praised him at the end. Then he picks James over Cavani, Paul, Vdb, Greenwood. With such a choice, it better be successful or else...well you get criticized.
Shitebag line up. More eye bleeding stuff
We played some great stuff in moments today. The attacking football is so much better than under Jose it’s night and day.
But Chelsea were pretty resolute and you can’t ignore their attacking threats. We have had a few shaky games defensively and today Maguire was still below his best form. So some caution was merited and Ole got the balance right I feel.
But Chelsea were pretty resolute and you can’t ignore their attacking threats. We have had a few shaky games defensively and today Maguire was still below his best form. So some caution was merited and Ole got the balance right I feel.
You need to get over the first two home defeats which had severe mitigating factors and stop using those to pad out your faux critique
WTF are you talking about? 7 points of 15, where the feck is your "win every game"?
We will see how we go forward, but this was miles better then what we were producing at the start of the season. Deserved to win today and there is a progress based on last 3 games.
Well, yes, hence my question.
Have to say. I really appreciate posters like you. You have been a tough in your stance on Ole, but at least you are one of the reasonable ones who can see the wood for the trees. It was a shite, boring game against a rival. Nothing more to be said really
Exactly! It was a very tight performance by both teams. And we where the better team! Feck this place tonight. People actually coming out with this shit...
Way to prove my point, we finished with a measly 66 points and you’re pleased.
Today aint the issue, drawing or even losing a game vs Chelsea matters little, but the start to this season is eerily similar to last.
Just nothing. He's there, but might as well be somewhere else. The fact he contiunes playing James should be investigated.
Really can't imagine that the level of coaching is very sophisticated, or would develop the players in a way that would result in big improvements in the way the team plays as a collective. Relying on individual skill and brilliance is not the hallmark of great coaching.
We dont have to wait for things to turn really sour before making a change.
Really can't imagine that the level of coaching is very sophisticated, or would develop the players in a way that would result in big improvements in the way the team plays as a collective. Relying on individual skill and brilliance is not the hallmark of great coaching.
We dont have to wait for things to turn really sour before making a change.
Typical Ole as a coach struggles shown in this game. Against a deep teams trying mainly to defend we struggle.
Although Rashford could have still won us the game so we didn't play that badly.
Just to make us into a title contender we need to attack better as a team. Don't think Ole has it in him to do.
Although Rashford could have still won us the game so we didn't play that badly.
Just to make us into a title contender we need to attack better as a team. Don't think Ole has it in him to do.
Another kneekjerk back a little towards "sack" it is then.
Not to shit stir too much, but we wanted LVG hanged for performances like that.
Too many passes in front of the defence.To be fair I don't think there was much wrong with the first 45, we’d conceded 9 goals at home in 2 games so understandable playing safe. But needed to go for it at about 60 mins and stuck with 2 holding mids trying not to lose.
End of day this changes very little for Ole, great on the counter, still somewhat clueless breaking down a defence.
It was a draw against Chelsea. The problem I had was why the feck James had to start. It was a very obvious mistake. James offers nothing so don't start him in such a big game . I think Ole's learnt his lesson with this one.
He is not risking to win anything. In fact playing as much safe as he can to not get sacked.
It really comes down to this. For all his talk about the "United way", he's a defensive minded manager who's only means of attack is counter attacking.
Ah yes the 66 point season of pure magnificence.
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