Name our best 11 and the 3 subs.

[Crashoutcassius]

it depends greatly. if we had to play every game this season with the same 11 then i think the only debate is tuanzebe or lindelof (i would gamble on tuanzebe) and in cm do you play pogba (we consistently look very leaky) and if yes who doyou partner him with. If no then I think it is fred and mctominay as our most dominant midfield duo the last 12 months

EDIT i guess telles or shaw is a debate too, we know nothing about telles so would just be a pure gamble, but maybe one worth taking. certainly if you want to play a mcfred midfield every game, the protection is excellent so telles could be much more free

 

[RedRonaldo]

Henderson
AWB Tuanzebe Maguire Telles
Fred Matic
Bruno
Greenwood Martial Rashford

Sub: Pogba, Cavani, VDB​

 

[United58]

Would you have De Gea as a sub that could change a game for us. I think an outfield player would be better.

He'd change the game with a few howlers for sure

 

[Philo]

De gea
AWB lindelof Maguire Telles
Fred mctominay
Bruno Pogba
Martial Rashford

Subs : VDB, Greenwood, Cavani

Sort of a diamond midfield I guess or a 4-2-2-2 with split strikers, fullbacks providing width and fred and McT doing the leg work... I feel like that could let us play our best players on the field at the same time !

 

[Devil may care]

Subs: Pogba Mata Cavani

 

[Infra-red]

Not sure what our best XI is, but I'd quite like to see this XI given a game (4-2-2-2):

De Gea

AWB Tuanzebe Maguire Telles

Fred Matic

Fernandes VDB

Rashford Cavani
​

Subs: McTominay, Pogba, Martial

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

Not sure what our best XI is, but I'd quite like to see this XI given a game (4-2-2-2):

De Gea

AWB Tuanzebe Maguire Telles

Fred Matic

Fernandes VDB

Rashford Cavani
​

Subs: McTominay, Pogba, Martial

Great minds...

How about
DDG
AWB Maguire Tuanzebe Telles
Fred Matic
Bruno VDB
Rashford Cavani

Subs
Martial, Shaw, Pogba

 

[Infra-red]

Great minds...

Good mix of experience and youthful exuberance, plus a front five in Fred, VDB, Bruno, Cavani and Rashford that will work their socks off. Got to be worth a try!

 

[Bestietom]

Im not sad about Laird, no idea where you got that from?

Yes he tried numerous combinations of players, I’m simply joining in with the thread on opinions of team selections. Shame you’ve picked my post to spread your negative comments on.

I didn’t say the team selection was bold, I suggest you go back and read my post correctly.

Your doing fine mate. It's all opinions, and only to pass the time away. No need for arguing.

 

[SadlerMUFC]

I don't think there is such thing as a "best 11". For example, someone like Mata is best suited against a team that will play with a low block and give us a lot of possession. However, he may not even be among the 7 subs against a top team. What I really liked was the game vs PSG. In that game, we saw 3 formations. We started with a 5-3-2 (as much as I hate that formation), we then saw a 4-3-3 and a 4-4-2 diamond. It showed that we can play in different formations and also showed that Ole was assessing the match and making the right moves. With Telles in the team now, and if I had to pick a "best 11" it may just as well be that 4-4-2. I'm still concerned about the RB position for the attack though and may be tempted to try and convert James into a RB...

----------------------------------------------DeGea----------------------------
James*------------------Lindelof------------------Maguire------------Telles
---------------------------------------------Matic------------------------------
---------------VdB---------------------------------------------Pogba-----------
--------------------------------------------Bruno-----------------------------------
-------------------------Martial--------------------Rashford----------------------

Subs: Fred, Cavani, Shaw

* it would be AWB for now, but I would like to see James work on his defensive ability and crossing so he can possibly convert to an attacking RB, otherwise he has no future at MUFC

 

[Bestietom]

Subs: Pogba Mata Cavani

Well done Devil. Good team and subs.

 

[OleBoiii]

What I love about threads like these is that a lot of the suggested starting XIs are very different to what the managers would field. Typically it's going to be a starting XI we haven't seen before. Even when Fergie was in charge people would suggest these weird lineups.

This is not just true for United supporters, though.

 

[Bestietom]

What I love about threads like these is that a lot of the suggested starting XIs are very different to what the managers would field. Typically it's going to be a starting XI we haven't seen before. Even when Fergie was in charge people would suggest these weird lineups.

This is not just true for United supporters, though.

Nice to see who the fans feel should be in the line up..

 

[OleBoiii]

Nice to see who the fans feel should be in the line up..

Oh yeah, I'm not hating or anything. I just find it humorous that the most avid fans(from an internet forum perspective) tend to disagree so much with the professionals, even when the team is doing well(like in the Fergie era).

I would also like to see more from VDB, Telles and Tuanzebe, but if they're not starting then there's probably a good reason for it. We don't get to see them in training like the manager does.

 

[georgipep]

I don't think there is such thing as a "best 11". For example, someone like Mata is best suited against a team that will play with a low block and give us a lot of possession. However, he may not even be among the 7 subs against a top team. What I really liked was the game vs PSG. In that game, we saw 3 formations. We started with a 5-3-2 (as much as I hate that formation), we then saw a 4-3-3 and a 4-4-2 diamond. It showed that we can play in different formations and also showed that Ole was assessing the match and making the right moves. With Telles in the team now, and if I had to pick a "best 11" it may just as well be that 4-4-2. I'm still concerned about the RB position for the attack though and may be tempted to try and convert James into a RB...

----------------------------------------------DeGea----------------------------
James*------------------Lindelof------------------Maguire------------Telles
---------------------------------------------Matic------------------------------
---------------VdB---------------------------------------------Pogba-----------
--------------------------------------------Bruno-----------------------------------
-------------------------Martial--------------------Rashford----------------------

Subs: Fred, Cavani, Shaw

* it would be AWB for now, but I would like to see James work on his defensive ability and crossing so he can possibly convert to an attacking RB, otherwise he has no future at MUFC

I think putting Telles, who played less than one game for us so far, VdB, who is yet to start a league game, and James, who hasn't played as RB in his life, is... premature

 

[Volumiza]

I would like to see James work on his defensive ability and crossing so he can possibly convert to an attacking RB

What on earth has Dan James done to suggest he can convert to a RB?

 

[Castia]

Subs: Pogba Mata Cavani

Looks great on paper and would probably my 'dream 11' but that team would be wide open, it's far too attacking. I think we'd need a world class DM in place of Fred to even consider the other 10. City could do it with Fernandinho, Chelsea did it with Kante, not sure Fred could (although im a fan of Fred)

 

[bosnian_red]

Best talent and tactical balance mixture, I'd go with:

De Gea
Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Wan Bissaka Bruno Fred Telles
Pogba
Rashford Martial
​

Subs: Van de Beek, Greenwood, Cavani

 

[Nikelesh Reddy]

This is very debatable. With the squad atm, pick your best 11 and the 3 subs you think could change a game for us. Have a go.

-----------------------De Gea------------

AWB-----Lindelof---Maguire--------Shaw

--------------------- Matic ----------------------

----------------Pogba--------Fernandes-------

Greenwood-----------------------------Rashford
------------------------Marial---------------

Subs: VdB, Cavani, Telles.

De Gea,AWB,Maguire,Lindelof,Shaw,Mctominay,Fred,Fernandez,Greenwood,Martial,Rashford...Subs-Pogba,CavanI,Telles

 

[Bestietom]

Oh yeah, I'm not hating or anything. I just find it humorous that the most avid fans(from an internet forum perspective) tend to disagree so much with the professionals, even when the team is doing well(like in the Fergie era).

I would also like to see more from VDB, Telles and Tuanzebe, but if they're not starting then there's probably a good reason for it. We don't get to see them in training like the manager does.

Yes, I'll give you that, but some of the ones we have seen playing over the past 18 months shouldn't be near a Manchester United team.

 

[simplyared]

..................................DeGea
Wan Bissaka......Lindelöf......Maguire.......Shaw
..............................Matic
...........VDB....................................Pogba
...............................Bruno
............Greenwood................Rashford

Subs: Cavani, MacT, Telles

 

[Hugh Jass]

De Gea
AWB Lindelof Maguire Telles
McTom Fred
Greenwood Fernandes Rashford
Martial

Pogba Cavani VDB​

Yea this would be my first 11 too.

 

[Castia]

De Gea
AWB Tuanzebe Maguire Telles
Pogba Matic
Greenwood Bruno Rashford
Martial

:Lindelof, VDB, Cavani

 

[Martial'sEmergingSmile]

Subs: VDB, Greenwood the main ones...

 

[Green_Red]

This is based on current form.

Starting:
De Gea, AWB, Lindleof, Maguire, Shaw, Telles, Fred, McT, Bruno, Rashford, Martial.

Subs:
Mata, DVB, Cavani

2 more subs:
Tuanzebe, Pogba

BTW, if I was manager, Pogba probably doesn't get a sniff of a game unless I am absolutely desperate. If he performs when he gets a chance he can change my mind, but his Real comments make me start considering who will be here long term and I've already started planning to not have him in my team. If I can sell in January, he's gone.

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

DDG, Telles, Axel, Lindelof, AWB, Matic, VDB, Pogba, Bruno, Martial, Rashford

Subs: Greenwood, Fred, Cavani

I really wanted to put Fred in there instead of Matic, and maybe he should be, but I'd like to see matic in that formation with 3 midfielders ahead of him and being able to drop in between Axel and Lindelof to make forward passes, win headers, and cut out passing lanes. Especially with Telles being able to push and run the entire left flank.

 

[SadlerMUFC]

I think putting Telles, who played less than one game for us so far, VdB, who is yet to start a league game, and James, who hasn't played as RB in his life, is... premature

Which is why you need to read my whole post and not just the formation

 

[SadlerMUFC]

What on earth has Dan James done to suggest he can convert to a RB?

What did Alfonso Davies do to suggest he could be converted to a LB? I've got news for you. Most FB's didn't start off as FB's. They were converted to that position. And with James I see a player who is more of a classic winger than a modern winger. And a classic winger is closer in style to a modern day attacking FB than they are to a modern day winger. Mind you, I didn't say this would work. It's just something I would like to see him try. This is why at the bottom of my post I clearly stated that AWB would for now be the obvious choice, but in that formation I don't think AWB offers enough going forward so I would if it were up to me, I would see what could be done about converted James into a RB. But hey....this is my team, not yours. You are more than welcome to think inside the box rather than out and disagree with me...

 

[AltiUn]

Dave
Laird, Tuanzebe, Maguire, Telles
Fred, Van Beek
Bruno
Greenwood, Rashford
Martial
​

Subs; Cavani, McTommy, Pogba

​

I’d love to see this team tried out this season. Lots of energy and creative threat, just don’t think Ole is bold enough to try it unfortunately.

Both full backs would struggle in that system, they'd both be way better suited to a 3 at the back formation, they're too attacking for a flat back 4.

 

[Cantonagotmehere]

This is very debatable. With the squad atm, pick your best 11 and the 3 subs you think could change a game for us. Have a go.

-----------------------De Gea------------

AWB-----Lindelof---Maguire--------Shaw

--------------------- Matic ----------------------

----------------Pogba--------Fernandes-------

Greenwood-----------------------------Rashford
------------------------Marial---------------

Subs: VdB, Cavani, Telles.

--------------------DDG---------------
AWB - Tuanzabe-Maguire-Telles
---------------------McT-----------
---Pogba---------Bruno-------------VDB
---------Greenwood------------Rashford

sub - Martial, Cavani, Fred

I struggled picking between McT, Fred and Matic. I went with McT energy and hope for his improvement. I am really anti Shaw these days. I have only seen a glimpse of Telles but I sure hope he takes the spot ASAP. Happy to never see Shaw start again (unless maybe a back 3 at times).

 

[Volumiza]

What did Alfonso Davies do to suggest he could be converted to a LB? I've got news for you. Most FB's didn't start off as FB's. They were converted to that position. And with James I see a player who is more of a classic winger than a modern winger. And a classic winger is closer in style to a modern day attacking FB than they are to a modern day winger. Mind you, I didn't say this would work. It's just something I would like to see him try. This is why at the bottom of my post I clearly stated that AWB would for now be the obvious choice, but in that formation I don't think AWB offers enough going forward so I would if it were up to me, I would see what could be done about converted James into a RB. But hey....this is my team, not yours. You are more than welcome to think inside the box rather than out and disagree with me...

Hey, I’m no ‘inside the box safety first’ guy and I understand a lot of fullbacks don’t start out as fullbacks, I don’t have an issue with the idea in itself, I just wondered what on earth you saw in DJ (I’m not a DJ hater by the way) that suggests he could make the switch? For me, he’s way too lightweight and even though I like him, his attacking play isn’t the best either so my view is he’s be no good at the defensive duties and not good enough in attack to make up for that ... and now it’s my team not yours

 

[georgipep]

Which is why you need to read my whole post and not just the formation

Yeah, I did, but still believe that putting 3 players with VERY unproven qualities in 'best 11' is irrational. Anyways, doesn't matter, I see a ton of people are putting Telles as LB already

 

[Andycoleno9]

Ddg
AWB, Lindelof, Tuanzebe, Shaw
Fred
Pogba, VDB
Bruno
Martial, Rashford

Telles, Cavani, Greenwood

 

[Skills]

I agree they are good players, but which would you pick as gamechangers. Just opinions mate. A bit of sport to pass the time.

Well it depends on what you need off the bench tbh. Your bench players don't have to be bonafide starters, but have to offer an alternative. I personally would've even kept Fellaini, because he proved himself very effective off the bench.

Mata and Cavani are definitely game changers. VDB and Telles have got a bit to prove but look promising.

 

[SadlerMUFC]

Yeah, I did, but still believe that putting 3 players with VERY unproven qualities in 'best 11' is irrational. Anyways, doesn't matter, I see a ton of people are putting Telles as LB already

And if my formation was a 4-3-2-1, 4-3-3 or classic 4-4-2 it would be with Shaw instead of Telles. But in a 4-4-2 diamond (which I picked to get a different sort of line up) I would want a LB with more attacking qualities...

 

[SadlerMUFC]

Hey, I’m no ‘inside the box safety first’ guy and I understand a lot of fullbacks don’t start out as fullbacks, I don’t have an issue with the idea in itself, I just wondered what on earth you saw in DJ (I’m not a DJ hater by the way) that suggests he could make the switch? For me, he’s way too lightweight and even though I like him, his attacking play isn’t the best either so my view is he’s be no good at the defensive duties and not good enough in attack to make up for that ... and now it’s my team not yours

What I have seen in DJ is a player who works his butt off at both ends of the field. But as a winger, I really don't think he should get any game time with us. He's just not good enough as a focal point of our attack. Especially from the left, where even if the outside run is wide open, he still tries to come inside and constantly loses the ball. As a RB he can forget about trying to dribble players and just work on overlapping his RW'er and whip in some crosses. We've seen some good crosses from him as a RW'er, but unfortunately it's often to nobody because he whips in crosses when nobody has caught up to him yet . But as a RB he would be one of the last to join the attack and maybe even find someone on one of those crosses. Mind you, in any other formation of 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1 or classic 4-4-2 he wouldn't even make my bench. But in a formation that requires an attacking RB, as a 4-4-2 diamond does, I would like to see him converted to the position because if not, in my opinion, he has no future at our club...

 

[Schmeichel's Cartwheel]

Depends on the system

DDG
Tuanzebe Maguire Shaw
Wan-Bissaka Matic Telles
Bruno Pogba
Rashford Martial​

I really like this line up. Hides the biggest weaknesses in our team at centre back & on the wing. if we don’t have any wingers why play with wingers? Van de Beek, Cavani & Greenwood offer great competition for Pogba, Bruno, Martial & Rashford. Lindelof can come in for any of the back 3 if required. Fred could replace Matic although he’d need to be more disciplined

 

[Negative Red]

-----------------Dea Gea
AWB Tuanzebe Maguire Shaw
----------------Fred Matic
--------------------Bruno
Greenwood Cavani Martial

Subs: Telles, VDB, Rashford

 

[Volumiza]

What I have seen in DJ is a player who works his butt off at both ends of the field. But as a winger, I really don't think he should get any game time with us. He's just not good enough as a focal point of our attack. Especially from the left, where even if the outside run is wide open, he still tries to come inside and constantly loses the ball. As a RB he can forget about trying to dribble players and just work on overlapping his RW'er and whip in some crosses. We've seen some good crosses from him as a RW'er, but unfortunately it's often to nobody because he whips in crosses when nobody has caught up to him yet . But as a RB he would be one of the last to join the attack and maybe even find someone on one of those crosses. Mind you, in any other formation of 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1 or classic 4-4-2 he wouldn't even make my bench. But in a formation that requires an attacking RB, as a 4-4-2 diamond does, I would like to see him converted to the position because if not, in my opinion, he has no future at our club...

I agree with everything you said really, but I think he’d get smashed to little pieces almost every game as a Fullback. Sadly, unless he becomes 3rd choice cover for either RW or LW I think the bold part is most likely.

 

[AltiUn]

I'd like to see more of 3 at the back, I think it protects us enough without sacrificing too much going forward, especially now we have Telles in one of the wing back positions. Cavani, Martial and Pogba off the bench.

De Gea
Tuanzebe / Maguire / Shaw
Wan-Bissaka / Fred / van de Beek / Telles
Fernandes
Greenwood / Rashford

Thing is there's no one line up that would work unquestionably every game, you have to adapt your tacitcs. In a game against a strong side with an energetic, mobile midfield I wouldn't be against McTominay next to Fred. Also you 've got a big decision to make regarding van de Beek or Pogba in there depending on form, likewise with Cavani and Martial. There's also a discussion to be had for Maguire and Lindelof because I don't think you can play them together in a back 3 because if you want to take control of the game you have to play a high line, our high line with both of them was slaughtered against Brighton, Tottenham and Palace. Having the pace of Shaw and Tuanzebe against PSG showed exactly what our backline has been missing, it also shows the value another fast, quality CB would've provided for us had we signed one in the summer, perhaps even Smalling could've played the sweeper role like Tuanzebe was doing.