In an alternate universe, will Rashford starts for other Europe's elite club?

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A hypothetical thread,

What if Rashford left us next season, and joined one of other Europe's elite.

Will he be an automatic starter?
 

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I think he would for most. I think there is a real shortage of top forwards.

I think clubs would look at his pace and ability and he would get game time for almost all of them.
 

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Not sure what you're getting at? Why just Rashford? Why not ask out about all our players? Sorry, but pointless thread, in my opinion.

To answer your question, however, no one is an automatic starter. Just look at Pogba! You have to earn your position, and I guess Rashford is doing that at the moment.
 

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There are no automatic starters for the European Top Clubs, but Rashford has an incredibly good reputation across Europe and rightfully so

Bayern -> Would get lots of game time, as did for example Perisic last year
Dortmund -> Automatic starter
Real -> On current form starts above Hazard, Vinicius I don't know but also lots of game time
Barca -> Starts over Fati for me
Atletico -> Probably one of the two strikers with Suarez
City -> Would be part of the rotation, overtaking Jesus in the pecking order quickly
Liverpool -> Nobody gets into that front three, but he'd be the first option after that
 
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If Rashford wanted to leave, all top clubs in England would be interested, I am sure.
 

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I think he'd be in strong contention for a starting place with most elite european clubs (Real, Barca, Bayern, Liverpool, City, Dortmund, PSG, Juve etc) - not saying he'd start every game, but he'd play regularly. The problem isn't his abiity or application, it's our tactics
 

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Yes he will. Real madrid would take him in a heart beat and would have him start instead of rodrygo or vinicius (both are talented but rashford better). Barca would love to have him instead of griezmann or depay. Bayern would definitely find a way to start him and he will be lethal. Juve would have him instead of morata. Psg would have him and make their front trio of mbappa neymar rashford.
 

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Yes he will. Real madrid would take him in a heart beat and would have him start instead of rodrygo or vinicius (both are talented but rashford better). Barca would love to have him instead of griezmann or depay. Bayern would definitely find a way to start him and he will be lethal. Juve would have him instead of morata. Psg would have him and make their front trio of mbappa neymar rashford.
Barca would definitely have him over a player they don't even own, yes.
 

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What a strange thread. Yes he would start for most top clubs.
 

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His current form? No. His form that he had before his injury? Yes. It really is as simple as that.

Before his injury he was showing real signs that he was developing that consistency and impact to become one of the best around. If he can get back to that level (and hopefully continue even higher) then he gets in most teams. However he hasn't got close to that level since returning. A good game here and there, but overall he's mostly struggled. The big question is whether the injury is still having an impact on him physically, whether it's effecting him mentally with his confidence, or whether it's completely separate from his injury and he's just going through a poor period? Whichever it is hopefully he'll get over it soon and starts looking like the player he can be.
 

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Yes he will. Real madrid would take him in a heart beat and would have him start instead of rodrygo or vinicius (both are talented but rashford better). Barca would love to have him instead of griezmann or depay. Bayern would definitely find a way to start him and he will be lethal. Juve would have him instead of morata. Psg would have him and make their front trio of mbappa neymar rashford.
Not sure if Rashford is that good at the right though. He surely would be good enough to play centrally for them though if Neymar shifts to #10 position.
 

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Barca would definitely have him over a player they don't even own, yes.
Instead of a player their manager wants. Ask barca fans who would they prefer if given the choice depay or rashford and you will get your answer.
 

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His current form? No. His form that he had before his injury? Yes. It really is as simple as that.

Before his injury he was showing real signs that he was developing that consistency and impact to become one of the best around. If he can get back to that level (and hopefully continue even higher) then he gets in most teams. However he hasn't got close to that level since returning. A good game here and there, but overall he's mostly struggled. The big question is whether the injury is still having an impact on him physically, whether it's effecting him mentally with his confidence, or whether it's completely separate from his injury and he's just going through a poor period? Whichever it is hopefully he'll get over it soon and starts looking like the player he can be.
I think game by game he is returning to his pre-injury form this season. The last 3 games have been very encouraging.
 

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Not sure if Rashford is that good at the right though. He surely would be good enough to play centrally for them though if Neymar shifts to #10 position.
Mbappe has shown he lethal on the right too so it will be a fluid front three with all of them interchanging their position.
 

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Easily. Moise Keane is a starter for PSG next to Neymar and Mbappe.
Still a bizarre signing that one, unclear whether he could really be called a starter though. He started at the weekend yes, but I wouldn't expect him to be starting big games and that was probably just as rotation ahead of the champions league this week again. PSG is probably one of the few teams where you couldn't say Rashford is sure an automatic starter. Though they could change things up a bit to make room for him. They have Icardi too let's not forget.
 

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Instead of a player their manager wants. Ask barca fans who would they prefer if given the choice depay or rashford and you will get your answer.
As both the players have featured for United, I think we fans are well positioned to answer that one :lol: though I do think we sold Depay in a hurry.. he would certainly have been useful if we had been a bit patient with him. But Rashford is in another league compared to him.
 

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Easily, Barcelona have been trying to get him to join them for years. He'd be a starter for them for sure.
I heard Barcelona almost signed him in 2018. It is press gossip though so clearly not 100% reliable.
 

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No I don't think so. He doesn't start over Mane, Sterling, an in form Hazard, Neymar, Bayern's wingers etc

Maybe a club that's on the downswing like Barcelona.

Before I get flak, Rashford is a very good young player but needs a season or two before we can see what level he can reach. He isn't an elite forward yet.
 

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I think game by game he is returning to his pre-injury form this season. The last 3 games have been very encouraging.
Newcastle yes. I was hoping that was a sign he was over whatever it is that is giving him trouble, as it was the first time since his injury that he actually looked confident and back to his normal mentality. Unfortunately I feel he dropped back off again in the next two games.
 

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He will. He could even be better than he is for us currently under the coaches like Klopp and Guardiola who will work on his decision making
 

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Automatic for who? For a side like Real Madrid, who lack any goal threats or wide players who can provide consistent numbers, probably. Similar sort of logic for Juventus. For a side like Bayern Munich who are firing on all cylinders? Probably not.

But I think we know what the OP is getting at. And the answer to the actual question; Marcus Rashford is a very good player. He’s now reaching the point where he’s not just potential and is actually starting to deliver numbers. We’ve got this weird thing where we question our actual good players (see the above post saying “an in form Hazard” who hasn’t even played close to Rashford’s level in about 18 months).

19/20: 22 goals and 11 assists in 42 appearances
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He's a young, prolific, international level goalscorer. I think he'd get plenty of game time at most big clubs. PSG would probably be the toughest team to break into at the moment.
 

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Yes, think Bayern is the only big team I cannot fit him in.
PSG
Neymar Rashford Mbappe

Barcelona
Fati Rashford Messi

Real
Rashford Benzema Vinicius

Atlético
Rashford Suarez

Juve
Ronaldo Rashford Dybala

Dortmund
Rashford Haaland Sancho
 

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I think he has a lot of strings to his bow which would go in his favour. I do believe he has been asked to press slightly less for us but he would do that at any other team.

The one problem he has is it seems he needs a lot of games to find his rhythm which maybe a problem for him with regards to patience from most clubs.

He’s in the mix at every team in the world I feel. Contrary to earlier posts I think he’d give Firmino a run for his money, I think he’d be brilliant as a centre forward for them and I think he’d suit Klopps’s teams.
 
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No I don't think so. He doesn't start over Mane, Sterling, an in form Hazard, Neymar, Bayern's wingers etc

Maybe a club that's on the downswing like Barcelona.

Before I get flak, Rashford is a very good young player but needs a season or two before we can see what level he can reach. He isn't an elite forward yet.
The Hazard of Chelsea yes but he defo starts over the current one. Besides there is the very inconsistent Vinicius who would/could be benched for him.
 

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He isn't, really. Icardi is injured.
Icardi is just as bad, if not even worse. The guy touches the ball about 10 times a game and only scores tap ins these days. Massive waste of money.
 

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Newcastle yes. I was hoping that was a sign he was over whatever it is that is giving him trouble, as it was the first time since his injury that he actually looked confident and back to his normal mentality. Unfortunately I feel he dropped back off again in the next two games.
I thought he was great against Chelsea -- managed to be threatening despite very little support. And while he was hot and cold against PSG, you can't look past the winner. That moment was befitting the very best players on planet.
 

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No I don't think so. He doesn't start over Mane, Sterling, an in form Hazard, Neymar, Bayern's wingers etc

Maybe a club that's on the downswing like Barcelona.

Before I get flak, Rashford is a very good young player but needs a season or two before we can see what level he can reach. He isn't an elite forward yet.
But he doesn't need to start over the best players of these clubs. Almost all of these teams regularly play much weaker players than Rashford whom he could replace. He was the joint 8th top scorer in the PL despite missing a lot of games due to a back injury. Every english club would be very happy to have him.


1Jamie VardyLeicester City23
2Pierre-Emerick AubameyangArsenal22
=2Danny IngsSouthampton22
4Raheem SterlingManchester City20
5Mohamed SalahLiverpool19
=6Harry KaneTottenham18
=6Sadio ManeLiverpool18
=8Raul JimenezWolves17
=8Marcus RashfordManchester United17
=8Anthony MartialManchester United17
 

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Better question. Name a team he wouldn't start in.
 

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Yes he would.

Including Liverpool, where he would displace Firminio, even though playing through the center is not his strength currently. Klopp would see to that though. He would also be more lethal at those clubs; they have better movement and more organised attacks, and their managers would refine his only flaw of decision-making.
 
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Wouldn't start on the left for Liverpool (Mane), PSG (Neymar) or City (Sterling). Possibly/probably Spurs with Son. But then Sterling or Son wouldn't start above Rashford for United on the left, so just more of similar tier for me. For Bayern, I think he'd get in ahead of Gnabry, but maybe I just don't watch Gnabry enough. Dortmund if both Reus and Sancho are fit and are the 2 behind Haaland, then not there either. Juve have Ronaldo and Dybala who can play together as a front 2, but I have no idea what system they're using these days so hard to say yes or no.

Overall though I think there's a bunch on a similar level that Rashford is part of, with only really Mane and Neymar as clearly ahead who play regularly on the left. Ronaldo if he goes left on a front 3 regularly then put him there as well. The rest like Sterling, Rashford, Sancho, Reus, Gnabry, Son are all probably on a similar level.
 

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What a strange thread. Yes he would start for most top clubs.
It is weird. Saw his underwear commercial and realized he is a man now.

He has grown so much since he started with United...and that got me thinking, is he a household name now. Hence the thread.
 

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He'd start for most top clubs and we'd be nagging Ed to go get him.
 

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Nice to see all the responses.

We can conclude that Rashford is finally an elite level player. What a player we have at the club, what a journey.
 

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Absolutely demolishes Sancho pre injury who only performs in the Bundesliga. Dortmund would go for a young talented player for a reasonable price as seen year upon year and they won't buy Rashford? They wont replace Reus with him?

Better than Sterling at the same age aswell as Sterling clearly scores alot due to the benefit of playing In a tactical set up of Guardiola, something Rashford hasnt had.

"If Hazard was on form, Rashford would not start" well Hazard is not on form and Rashford would start because he is better than vincinius and others.

He would get in to Chelsea First XI before this summer window because now they are overloaded in that type of player.

Arsenal is Lacazette.

He wont get in to Barcelona because of Fati who is one of their homegrown.

He would be bought in to athletico Madrid over Jaoa Felix and Carrasco.

He would get in to Juventus over Cuadrado as a inverted LW whilst Kulusevski plays on the other side.

He has ultimately got in to Manchester Utd first team under 3 managers so I dont think that cant be re represented at other clubs.

Only Bayern and Liverpool are questionable because they themselves are at their peak, playing players near their peak aswell.