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Foxbatt

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I give up, to blame the boy here is just something I fail to comprehend. It's not even worth discussing

So now, taking a short corner is a bad thing cuz our normal corners have been delivering the goods for us right?

Let's just keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different result like the fools we are
Sorry you didn't understand the basics. A short corner is a planned one. This was a short corner that was not planned. You can see from the reaction of the other players. Or else Ole has lost his mind if he planned it that way.
AWB has always been the last defender. Now if he didn't get the corner I am sure he won't be in that position.
You simply can't take it out of context. AWB got the corner as he was jogging back they took the corner. Most of our players had not even arrived in the box when Bruno and Mata took it. Now if they sent in the cross that's the way it should have been fine. They passed to AWB who stopped going back to his designated position.
Then after getting involved he had the opportunity to cross it or pass it to Matic who was in a good position at that time. He then made the worst decision to take on an opposing player while there were no defenders back defending. It's basic football. He messed up his cross and that made the whole thing a mess.
 

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The obvious solution is to make the AM on the right create overlaps and overloads with the winger, while AWB stays back deeper to stop counterattacks, akin to Kyle Walker at City.

I have no idea why he's being tasked as the sole outlet for us on the right. use the players to their strengths, especially those with an arguably world class strength.
 

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Shaky first half as noted but grew into the game and made some crucial tackles and interceptions. 6/10 for me today
 

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Could have done better for the goal and letting the ball under him. Some good tackles and defending, including winning the ball in the air against Calvert-Lewin +1 in the second half. Something not all our CBs managed
 

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I just don't see any improvement. He still plays like first time he came here.
 

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Shaw has Rashford, Bruno and Martial drifting to channels, allowing him to create overloads.

Wan-Bissaka, on the other hand, has nothing. He gets the ball, and often has two, three players in front of him.

Going forward, we need someone who will stay on the right to give AWB that support. He cant do it all.
 

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Poor first half but I think it starts already with Mata not helping out. They got a free run on that side the whole first half. Second half much better.
 

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Shaw has Rashford, Bruno and Martial drifting to channels, allowing him to create overloads.

Wan-Bissaka, on the other hand, has nothing. He gets the ball, and often has two, three players in front of him.

Going forward, we need someone who will stay on the right to give AWB that support. He cant do it all.
Think this is fair especially the way awb plays
 

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Wan-Bissaka looked shaky today. Digne and Bernard gave him a rough time. I haven't seen the stats but it didn't feel like he was winning the 1v1 duels he usually does. Hopefully comes back better after the international break. When Everton got down the right they looked dangerous.
 

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I think not having an actual right winger ahead of him massively impacts his game. But there’s some elements that just don’t seem to be getting ironed out — jogging back on transitions; positioning for far post crosses etc.

Like quite a few players in our squad, there are some things he’s very very good at, and then there are some things he’s equally bad at. Very few of our players seem to have that rounded balance in their game.
 

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Wan-Bissaka looked shaky today. Digne and Bernard gave him a rough time. I haven't seen the stats but it didn't feel like he was winning the 1v1 duels he usually does. Hopefully comes back better after the international break. When Everton got down the right they looked dangerous.
He had a poor start defensively but got better. Digne didn’t really have much joy at all and he’s the best attacking left back in the league for me.
 

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Crap defending on their goal, crap defending when Digne hit the post, and did nothing offensively all game and yet some are saying he had a good game...
 

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Shaw has Rashford, Bruno and Martial drifting to channels, allowing him to create overloads.

Wan-Bissaka, on the other hand, has nothing. He gets the ball, and often has two, three players in front of him.

Going forward, we need someone who will stay on the right to give AWB that support. He cant do it all.
I keep saying similar. We're mostly much less fluent in possession in the right half, it's not just AWB. Mata usually helps a lot when he plays, but seems he swapped sides at some point. We'd likely be in an even worse position without some of his defensive performances, this season and last. He'll appear much less problematic on the ball when the team is truly balanced. Whenever that is.
 

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I think not having an actual right winger ahead of him massively impacts his game. But there’s some elements that just don’t seem to be getting ironed out — jogging back on transitions; positioning for far post crosses etc.

Like quite a few players in our squad, there are some things he’s very very good at, and then there are some things he’s equally bad at. Very few of our players seem to have that rounded balance in their game.
He’s brilliant at tackling but actually quite poor at all the other stuff you need from a defender. Often out of position, poor anticipation, surprisingly easy to muscle off the ball, weak in the air, bad at marking etc etc

It’s a worry. But isn’t he a converted winger, learning how to be a defender? So hopefully that stuff will get a lot better. It needs to.
 

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I thought he was incredibly shit for the first half. Just outright lazy and negligent in his defending... there was one point where a cross went over his head and if he had decided to break out of a light stroll he could have got the ball easily, but instead was just happy to let their player have it.

He got a bit better in the second half but I mean it would have been hard to be any worse.. and he can't even complain about not having protection as Mata and McT were constantly working back and helping.
 

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He’s brilliant at tackling but actually quite poor at all the other stuff you need from a defender. Often out of position, poor anticipation, surprisingly easy to muscle off the ball, weak in the air, bad at marking etc etc

It’s a worry. But isn’t he a converted winger, learning how to be a defender? So hopefully that stuff will get a lot better. It needs to.
Yup and always looks like out of balanced whenever he receives the ball as well. Weird player. He is still young but seems to have a lot of areas to improve on.
 

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For one so young his fitness seems terrible: looks really good/fit for a few games then terrible and well off the pace. If this pattern persists we need to rotate him with some one else ASAP
 

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Was poor today! Every time Everton has the ball on the left he was a good 5 metres away. If they had been able to put in a decent cross DCL would have scored a boat load
 

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Wan-Bissaka looked shaky today. Digne and Bernard gave him a rough time. I haven't seen the stats but it didn't feel like he was winning the 1v1 duels he usually does. Hopefully comes back better after the international break. When Everton got down the right they looked dangerous.
Yes they did, but that was the problem, both of them were overloading our right side, which culminated in Digne hitting the post, when McTominay failed to track back. We coped with that threat quite well, in fact the whole defence did well, never thought Everton really looked like scoring, but AWB could have done a bit better with the goal, but I think Bernard miss hit the shot.
 

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He’s brilliant at tackling but actually quite poor at all the other stuff you need from a defender. Often out of position, poor anticipation, surprisingly easy to muscle off the ball, weak in the air, bad at marking etc etc

It’s a worry. But isn’t he a converted winger, learning how to be a defender? So hopefully that stuff will get a lot better. It needs to.
Very true. Will stick to my prediction that we will be having a new RB by next season. If Ole stays , he may get one more year. If a manager like Poch takes over, he will be the first casuality.

Makes me think what kind of scouting we do.
 

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Trust me , we have people thinking Pep would start AWB over Walker. Just go back couple of pages and you will find that gem.
If I remember correctly, Walker was also a brainless FB when he's young. Turns out pretty good now.

If AWB is coached right on his passing, that would be a massive improvement.
 

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If I remember correctly, Walker was also a brainless FB when he's young. Turns out pretty good now.

If AWB is coached right on his passing, that would be a massive improvement.
I thought passing is coached at a very young age. You either have it with you or not by the time when you are over 20. Obviously I am talking about high level passing.

Also, he seems to panic a lot and always seems like falling down when he receive a ball. Even if he could be coached passing, those faults will make sure his passing would not improve. Look at the likes of Shaw, Matic, Maguire, Carrick etc passing from deep with different degree of ease while getting pressed. Clam, composed. Awb is anything but that.
 

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His positioning and awareness is really poor. Great one-to-one defender and good with his tackling but he's not particularly good at anything else. I don't really think it's a coaching problem either.
 

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Does he have fitness/stamina issues? Why he is always jogging even when the other team is on full-speed mode?
 

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He really needs to stop pushing out of the defensive line so early.

Every time he goes running off trying to press the left back at the half way line, and they play a quick 1-2 and suddenly he's well out of position and they're flying in behind him.

I can't understand why he keeps doing this? just stay in line with lindelof and let them try to get passed you on the outside.

Why he kept showing Bernard inside on his right foot is beyond me. It's like they don't do any research on their opponents at all.

He was better in the 2nd half once we went a bit more defensive and he wasn't running out of position.
 

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He really needs to stop pushing out of the defensive line so early.

Every time he goes running off trying to press the left back at the half way line, and they play a quick 1-2 and suddenly he's well out of position and they're flying in behind him.

I can't understand why he keeps doing this? just stay in line with lindelof and let them try to get passed you on the outside.
That's a tactical instruction that both him and Shaw execute on every opportunity. Shaw is ALWAYS a lot higher than Maguire and is acting as the winger with Rashford usually deeper than him in buildup.

Why he kept showing Bernard inside on his right foot is beyond me. It's like they don't do any research on their opponents at all.

He was better in the 2nd half once we went a bit more defensive and he wasn't running out of position.
My guess would be because Bernard has a good cross and Calvert-Lewin's biggest weapon is heading the ball.
 

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That's a tactical instruction that both him and Shaw execute on every opportunity. Shaw is ALWAYS a lot higher than Maguire and is acting as the winger with Rashford usually deeper than him in buildup.
I'm not talking about when attacking, I mean when defending.

When Everton had the ball he was sprinting out to Digne instead of just keeping tight in the back 4, they played a quick 1-2 around him and Digne was through.

it just causes more confusion than needs be. There was a moment in the first half where Mata, Mctominay and AWB all got in eachothers way because he was out of position.
 

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I worry about players like this because I feel we're growing into a habit of hoping players come good just because we've spent money on them. We used to be ruthless when it came to players we could improve on.
I feel RB is definitely an area we can improve. The problem with AWB is that while he provides us with a noticeable strength, he also has a noticeable weakness/es and that really hinders us.
 

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I'm not talking about when attacking, I mean when defending.

When Everton had the ball he was sprinting out to Digne instead of just keeping tight in the back 4, they played a quick 1-2 around him and Digne was through.

it just causes more confusion than needs be. There was a moment in the first half where Mata, Mctominay and AWB all got in eachothers way because he was out of position.
You do not keep tight when your opponent has the ball. Especially when it comes to wing play. That's the whole point of attacking play down the wing, to catch a fullback who is not fully committed so you can get to a better position to cross or pull back a pass.
 

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You do not keep tight when your opponent has the ball. Especially when it comes to wing play. That's the whole point of attacking play down the wing, to catch a fullback who is not fully committed so you can get to a better position to cross or pull back a pass.
I don't think you understand what i'm saying.

I'm not expecting him to stand next to Lindelof and never move, i'm saying he pushes out too early and leaves a big gap between him and Lindelof. Often he ends up running out and tries to close down the fullback when they have the ball, and instead the winger ends up running off him in the gap behind. He needs to time it better and allow the midfield to come across and close the spaces first, then he can go in for the kill.

The goal Sevilla scored against us is a perfect example. Go to 2.29 of this video and you'll see what I mean.

 

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Funny though. Talk about how good walker is and then absolutely shit all after a dire performance. Wheres the consistency? Our fans are a lot like our team.
 

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I don't think you understand what i'm saying.

I'm not expecting him to stand next to Lindelof and never move, i'm saying he pushes out too early and leaves a big gap between him and Lindelof. Often he ends up running out and tries to close down the fullback when they have the ball, and instead the winger ends up running off him in the gap behind. He needs to time it better and allow the midfield to come across and close the spaces first, then he can go in for the kill.

The goal Sevilla scored against us is a perfect example. Go to 2.29 of this video and you'll see what I mean.

I understood exactly that but I think that's just what happens when one wing is doubled-down and there is no support for the fullback. Either one of the midfielders (McT, most of the time), the winger (Mata/Greenwood, most of the time) or the CBs (Lindelof, most of the time) would be tracking the opposing player who is left free. In a very simple scenario, if AWB closes down the opposition fullback, then another one of our players is marking the winger. If AWB marks the winger, then we should expect our winger to run with the fullback.
 
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