I juat checked the fixture list, I cant even see where the game can be played never mind bet on. Looks as if it could be a 4 game in a week job
Jose Mourinho | Spurs manager
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
which exactly why United should bin Ole ASAP and get Poch in. You guys are in rebuilding period so you need manager who has proven himself to build a decent side not someone who has prove himself to relegate an EPL team. Ole will bring you nowhere. While Poch is a builder, Mourinho is a winner , you guys would never consider spurs as title contender if that guy wasn't their manager , he adds Doherty and Reguilon as well who is an upgrade for their fullback.
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Looking at them, I think the 5th/6th of January could be a possibility but only if City go out of the Carabao Cup against Arsenal on the 22nd of December. It's not a lot of notice though, and if City win that the semi final will be on that 5/6th date and it's only one leg this season apparently. Failing that, perhaps later in January? Looks like both sides have games on the 16th and then nothing until the 26th. The weekend of the 23rd is FA Cup 4th round day and I suppose there's a chance both could be knocked out in round 3 but it's not too realistic. No matter what happens it looks midweek on the 19th/20th is available.
Whenever it is if you're up for that bet let me know. I'm not daft enough to think that Villa can't win there but I'm certain the bookies odds will be very different from Villa being favourites. I'd be looking to take advantage of that by hedging my bets with online bookies and locking in a profit no matter what happens.
No problem. Ill commit to it now despite it being so far away and Villa should have dropped off! Little charity bet will do no harm
Yeah, you can't win them.
The so called harder games might suit Spurs more as like Utd they struggle against teams who clog the game up and deny them space in behind. Southampton tried going aggressive against them and got pumped 5-2 and we all know what happened to Utd.
If he wins the title, I would be very happy. Bit of an unpopular opinion - I still rate him and like him. Would be very happy if he denies Liverpool and City the title.
just can't wait to see the reaction from Arsenal fans.
just can't wait to see the reaction from Arsenal fans.
I don't mind him, and while I wouldn't be very happy I'd see it as a good thing if we don't win . Would definitely prefer it over City, Liverpool, Arsenal or Chelsea for sure. It'd be nowhere near a Leicester-level underdog victory but still a surprise of sorts and I do take pleasure from them.
If he wins the title, well he has done it multiple times. What's the difference.
You can't mock Spurs fans about empty cabinet
Some of the Jose haters over here will be sad, because they hate him personally for whatever reasons.
Ah feck you're right. I can't hate him or even LvG to be honest. And the board surely knew the type of managers they were getting.
I’d be content with him winning the league with Spurs if we can’t. I don’t hate him and the only thing he annoyed me with is that Sevilla home game. He is our most successful post-SAF manager (two trophies, 2nd in the league). I knew exactly what we were getting when we hired him. You knew what was going to happen when Woodward just said no to transfer outlay in 2018 summer despite giving Jose an extended contract.
I do think he’s right about Pogba too. I’m sure there’s things hed love to say about our board and he’d be probably right and they wouldn’t be too far from what LVG has said about them.
I do think he’s right about Pogba too. I’m sure there’s things hed love to say about our board and he’d be probably right and they wouldn’t be too far from what LVG has said about them.
Ewwww no....
Aside from how dislikable he is (and half the Spurs team and their fans), what does that say about United if we're the only team he doesn't win the league with? How much satisfaction is that going to give Mourinho, and how much will he go on about this fact?
My preference is they narrowly miss out on some honours this season, give him a 5 year contract, and classic meltdown ensues.
Anyway, the possibility of Mourinho falling out with his squad exists no matter the situation, it's happened in his last 3 jobs, at some point you have to say maybe he's the problem and not the circumstances.
It is not rocket science. Two main factors in Mourinho's methods are
- Provoke the players (in private or public), hoping to see a response and fight to prove him wrong, thus getting the best out of the player.
- Siege mentality. Create an atmosphere where the players need to think that the PL authorities are against them, media is against them, rival fans are against them, etc etc. This he hopes will make the players play much beyond their abilities to prove everyone wrong.
After a time (2-3 seasons usually), this makes players tired, fed up and ultimately revolting against him. And then the meltdown starts.
None of the situations ever exist at the club initially, but it comes about in few seasons.
All he's had is a cute fixture list. Come back to me if he's doing well after messing about with some of the better teams in the league.
Hmmm. 'Physio' in quotes because?
West Brom 3-3 Chelsea
Southampton 3-3 Chelsea
Arsenal 0-3 Villa
United 1-3 Palace
Villa 7-2 Liverpool
West Ham 1-1 City
Leicester 0-3 West Ham
Leicester 0-1 Villa
Newcastle 2-1 Everton
Southampton 2-0 Everton
Cute team Spurs has been beaten this season weren't that cute to play against and he messed up those who tried to play pretty football such as Southampton and United. Nobody would ever consider Spurs as title contender,but now some people does because they have Jose Mourinho which shows how high people actually rate him even without them realizing.
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Come back to me after 6 match days.
From what I've seen of Vinicius he's certainly an upgrade on the past back up strikers like Jannsen, Llorente, a good option to have if we are chasing a game or if he is needed to fill in for Harry
On another note it looks like Jose has adopted the 4 3 3 formation which has obviously swayed away from the 4231 in which there is no obvious position for Dele in the CAM/SS role.... A role where he is most effective
On another note it looks like Jose has adopted the 4 3 3 formation which has obviously swayed away from the 4231 in which there is no obvious position for Dele in the CAM/SS role.... A role where he is most effective
Even though we are not playing at our best level (think all spurs fan's would agree) We are grinding out result's so the next fixtures there will be a turning point when players like Bale is properly up to speed and Son finds his form so let's wait and sed
And Bergwijn. And Reguilon. And Vinicius. And Doherty. And Rodon. And Gedson. And Hart.
But other than those *checks notes* 9 additional players, Jose hasn't had to do much to Poch's Spurs...
Absolute talents compared to Kane and Son except for Reguilon ofcourse who is on loan. They will win the the title because of those signings and not because of the team Pochettino left behind.
Still looks like 4231 to me, average position maps show Ndombele spending most of his time as a #10.
He’s made about 10 signings in less than a year mate...
Can you name the 10?
So, if Spurs wins the title this year (which i don't think they will), the credit must go to Poch and Poch only because he build this title winning team. Isn't it?
I think this is a good excuse if in case Jose wins the title this year. He is washed up anyway.
I think this is a good excuse if in case Jose wins the title this year. He is washed up anyway.
I'm not denying Mourinho's importance to a title winning team if that happens but likewise I wont deny Pochettino's importance to improve a squad and players up to a certain standard.
People can talk about berjwijn and Hojberg etc but that doesnt cover the Pochettino's work with Kane , Son and the others players at spurs that's available for Mourinho either. Mourinho is a short term winner - he will do anything to gain that success in his 2nd season.
However, Mourinho's time has passed here and what he achieved at other clubs doesnt effect us anymore because he failed here as that short term winner. He didnt have that Kane so he went for a Lukaku. He didnt have than Son so he went for a Sanchez.
That's why Spurs success means more about Pochettino ability to build a squad or improve players than anything we end up regretting about Mourinho.
I'm not even a cry out for Pochettino type of fan - but I'm trying to see the positives of what happens if he comes here.
They are winning zero titles with Jose in charge, zero.
The poster is only 1 out, he's made 9. Bergwijn, Fernandes, Regulion, Doherty, Hojberg, Rodon, Hart, Vinicius, Bale.
I really hope you are right.
Yeah, I see how Fernandes, Rodon, Hart, Vinicius, Bale have done so well in the PL. They are all starters in the PL team.
Bergjwin, Gedson, Bale, Doherty, Hojberg, Reguilon, Vinicius, Hart.
So 9. I was 1 off. Apologies.
The point is he wanted 2 new full backs, a DM, more depth on the wing & a backup to Kane & he got all of those things. He didn’t get what he wanted at United & neither has Ole.
Majority if the core is Poch's core anyway.
I do agree on the bolded part. You don't hire Jose and not give him what he wants because we have seen it in the past he does not take it well.
I don't really care whether they're good or not, you asked who he signed so I listed them.
Agreed, madness that people are even seriously discussing it.
Spurs won’t win the title. It’s knee jerk stuff. He has had favorable fixtures and teams like Liverpool, City, and even Chelsea are far better equipped.
Liverpool seem to be out of it now because of CB injuries, but that’s crazy. We are weeks away from a transfer window and they will get someone in and be absolutely fine. Not 98 points fine, but certainly enough to overhaul Spurs.
Liverpool seem to be out of it now because of CB injuries, but that’s crazy. We are weeks away from a transfer window and they will get someone in and be absolutely fine. Not 98 points fine, but certainly enough to overhaul Spurs.
I know it is the international break and everyone is bored, but it is way too early to talk about a title challenge. I don't think Spurs have the squad to do it. A couple of injuries and they would no longer be able to grind out the results.
However, I completely disagree with this stupid notion that they will not win it because Jose is in charge.
However, I completely disagree with this stupid notion that they will not win it because Jose is in charge.
Leicester won it though. Liverpool didn't need much squad players either since they barely had any injuries last year and the season before.
They can certainly do it, but it will probably be Liverpool or City in the end.
Nothing is impossible. It would need lot of other teams really underperforming to make it happen though.
But in the end, I agree, it would probably be Pool or City, most probably Pool.