Underwhelming 6800XT reviews imo. Good rasterisation but no DLSS and horrific RT performance.
Its a 3080 for me. And a Ti variant when the stock normalises.
Its a 3080 for me. And a Ti variant when the stock normalises.
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You talking out your arse. The reviews were very good. Anyone who has a 3080 or 3090 preordered should cancel and go for the 6800.
Appalling. I went down 2 whole places, too! Think February was a bit too ambitious a shout!I concur, it has the best reviews!
Everyone cancel and hop on the AMD train chooo chooo!
You've probably watched Hardware Unboxed then.
It gets trounced at ray tracing and DLSS (500% difference on one game in The Gamers Nexus review) but for rasterisation at under 4k it looks a good buy. 4k and Ray Tracing there are huge differences of 30% plus though.
By the way the FE 3090 has been available to buy now and has been for a while at MSRP
https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/shop/geforce/gpu/?page=1&limit=9&locale=en-gb&category=GPU&gpu=RTX 3090
Devs will use RT more and more and thus it is a no brainer for me at this point. Control running at 20fps with RT on is ominous. Games are going to be more demanding as we go on obviously.
Cheers. Ordered it and it said 11th December, which I cancelled.
Just give me any Asus model, I don’t care.
Fair enough mate, if I see any more I'll dm you next time.
AMD's version of DLSS is yet to be announced and I wouldn't call the RT horrific, it's their first dabble and is better than what Nvidia produced first time.
All rounder the 6800XT is better than the 3080.
How is it not a horrific performance when 3080 is up to 500% better than 6800xt? No one really cares if its AMD's first attempt because you know why -- its an enthusiast level product which is only £50 cheaper than its direct competitor.
We've seen nothing, we've heard nothing regarding DLSS equivalent and we'll probably see DLSS 3.0 before there is any concrete, tangible news in regards to what AMD has to offer.
And how on earth did you come the bolded part?
To be fair, Control is a horrible example. Even without RT it is poorly optimised in so many areas, all their games have been to date.
Great post especially bolded part. I am switching to team AMD.
I just don't think you can call it horrific when only a small sample of games have raytracing as a thing, yes more will come but AMD's RT will mature along with it as has Nvidia'sHow is it not a horrific performance when 3080 is up to 500% better than 6800xt? No one really cares if its AMD's first attempt because you know why -- its an enthusiast level product which is only £50 cheaper than its direct competitor.
We've seen nothing, we've heard nothing regarding DLSS equivalent and we'll probably see DLSS 3.0 before there is any concrete, tangible news in regards to what AMD has to offer.
And how on earth did you come the bolded part?
6800XT alongside SAM is very, very good.
For the first time in a long time AMD are very competitive.
Maybe so. Point still stands though, RT isn't going anywhere and AMD are way, way behind on it. Buying a 6000 series and keeping for longer than 2 years would be a mistake imo. I mean I didn't expect miracles but no wonder they didn't show slides with rt on.
Okay maybe not horrific but definitely suboptimal. Unusable. And you can't just mature rt performance. You either have rt cores or you don't.
AMD has did well for sure but I bought into the hype after seeing their slides, unfortunately.
I meant their understanding of them will mature, their 2nd gen will be much better I am sure much like the 3080 vs the 2080.
If you're not into RT (I dunno why you wouldn't be as I am a big fan) then the 6800XT is a very good card.
I agree with you, I'm going nvidia.
After a month of contemplating I've made the decision about the PC I'm going to order. It's the most bland and unexiting build you can imagine, but it'll do the job for the next 6-18 months. After which hopefully at some point there's some good value to be had in upgrading the GPU (and possibly the CPU as well).
One thing I was hoping to get some advice on from someone is the PSU.
For what I'm ordering 550W would be sufficient. But the exact same brand has a 650W version for 13 euros more so that's the better choice. However there's also a 750W that's another 40 euros more. Which one would be the best buy for say the next 3-5 years? I read that for the RTX 3080 750W is already recommended by NVIDIA, so I figured I perhaps might as well get one now, at the same time if it's pointless overkill...
Another thing I'm still switching back and forth about is the GPU. I can get a Saphire Pulse 5600XT for 320 euro, but I think I'm going to get a PNY 1660 Super for 238 euros instead, since I'm probably buying a proper GPU somehwere in the next 12 months anyway. Wouldn't mind an RTX 3060, but the ones available in the 340 euro price range all have shitty reviews in terms of heat and sound (fan noise) and the better rated ones go for around 400 euro which is ridiculous. But then again we're living in times where they're casually charging 500 euros for 3060 Supers
. Figured I might as well get the cheapest thing that does the job, since I have to buy shite like a facecam for the work at home during the pandemic era and a nice monitor and stuff and I'm upgrading quite soon, plus I have no idea how much resale value a 5600XT would have when the new generation GPUs become readily available in 2021.
tl;dr
650W or 750W (or even more), which would you guys reckon to be the best value PSU for the next 4-5 years?
and less importantly,
Sapphire Pulse RX 5600 XT for 320 euro vs. PNY GeForce 1660 Super OC Gaming XL8 dual fan for 238 euro?
One thing I was hoping to get some advice on from someone is the PSU.
For what I'm ordering 550W would be sufficient. But the exact same brand has a 650W version for 13 euros more so that's the better choice. However there's also a 750W that's another 40 euros more. Which one would be the best buy for say the next 3-5 years? I read that for the RTX 3080 750W is already recommended by NVIDIA, so I figured I perhaps might as well get one now, at the same time if it's pointless overkill...
Another thing I'm still switching back and forth about is the GPU. I can get a Saphire Pulse 5600XT for 320 euro, but I think I'm going to get a PNY 1660 Super for 238 euros instead, since I'm probably buying a proper GPU somehwere in the next 12 months anyway. Wouldn't mind an RTX 3060, but the ones available in the 340 euro price range all have shitty reviews in terms of heat and sound (fan noise) and the better rated ones go for around 400 euro which is ridiculous. But then again we're living in times where they're casually charging 500 euros for 3060 Supers
. Figured I might as well get the cheapest thing that does the job, since I have to buy shite like a facecam for the work at home during the pandemic era and a nice monitor and stuff and I'm upgrading quite soon, plus I have no idea how much resale value a 5600XT would have when the new generation GPUs become readily available in 2021.tl;dr
650W or 750W (or even more), which would you guys reckon to be the best value PSU for the next 4-5 years?
and less importantly,
Sapphire Pulse RX 5600 XT for 320 euro vs. PNY GeForce 1660 Super OC Gaming XL8 dual fan for 238 euro?
Mee too. I was leaning towards 6900XT but I'll get 3080.
I am thinking a 3070 2 or 3x oc for now, then a complete new build next year.
If I can actually get one!
Yeah I'm getting a palit oc tonight, which will do, until 3080ti.
Want a 3070 or a 6800. Got no chance 
@Balljy help a brother out. I'm an idiot that doesn't know how to send discord links. I've seen lots of 3070's today.Want a 3070 or a 6800. Got no chance
That’d be amazing! Thanks
You lot ain’t getting shit till I get mine.Want a 3070 or a 6800. Got no chance
You'll get yours next year at this rate. Seen the Tuf reviews, some card.
Sent. This is like the gradual take over of Redcafe onto that server.
You're an absolute legend mate. Really appreciate it.
Seconded! Both legends in my book.
Scan are saying they getting 500 plus 3090 cards this week and they only have like 400 outstanding preorders for it. Surely they got to offer me something else. I will take the Strix card.
Hopefully you'll get sorted. Strix would be nice for sure.
These videos make me laugh, how many gamers play of a monitor that refreshes at these FPS? ITs when the tech starts to interfere with the gaming.
What?
If you play on a 50 or 60Hz monitor the value of a rig playing at 140FPS is pretty worthless. That's even besides the fact the human eye cant differentiate much over 60FPS. A steady FPS is much more beneficial than a high one, think about it, for years console gamers play perfectly well on 30FPS as the norm, which is relatively shit, i definitely notice a caped FPS at 30 not so much at 60. Vsync is there for a reason. then think again, you watch these Youtube videos on a compressed video form probably on a screen that is even less than 50Hz.
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I mean, all three of those things are wrong (the third one is arguable depending on the drops), but ok.
The way I see it is that I’m not updating my card every year. So if I get one now that can do 150fps or whatever silly number now, I know that I’ll be good for at least 60fps for a solid amount of years.
also there are quite a few monitors that are very reasonably priced that are 144hz
also there are quite a few monitors that are very reasonably priced that are 144hz
They aren't wrong, you show me a article, tried and tested, that shows the human eye can see over 100FPS? FPS is great up to a certain point, beyond that there is no benefit, simple science. You say the 3rd is dependant on drops, I said STEADY FPS.... i.e. no drops. Its the industry manipulating u into thinking otherwise.
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