He’s a ball playing centre back who isn’t good on the ball. If he’s not elite I don’t want him as my starting centre back at United. I’d be fine with him as a backup but he’s not good enough for the level we should be.
When do we cut our losses on Maguire?
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What part of his ability on the ball do you think is not good enough?
When he misplaces simple passes & dribbles into opponents.
Not this crap again. This place has become a joke full of agenda posting. You've decided you don't like him and nothing he will ever do now will change your mind.
Do you have a point you might want to share or should I rightfully conclude this is another what-aboutism of a post.
It’s a bit of a cliche, but I genuinely think these kind of shit threads wouldn’t exist if he was called Maguirinho. It’s actually a bit comical how much he’s unnecessarily targeted.
Didn't we have enough of this sort of gub in his difficult period at the start of the season?
There was a guy who made a thread over a year ago saying that it was inevitable that in no time people would start moaning about Wan Bissaka, Maguire and James - who were all seen as good signings at the time.
Just awaiting the Bruno bashing thread now. Although some have even started moaning that he "Only scores pens".
There was a guy who made a thread over a year ago saying that it was inevitable that in no time people would start moaning about Wan Bissaka, Maguire and James - who were all seen as good signings at the time.
Just awaiting the Bruno bashing thread now. Although some have even started moaning that he "Only scores pens".
You see I don’t think he’s terrible on the ball at all and how far off ‘elite’ do you see him?
I don’t argue him and Lindelof aren’t the best pairing but out of the two I would keep Maguire and put him next to a faster partner.
We definitely overpaid for him I get that but I just don’t see the terrible player that a lot on here do. He’s a solid player and does good work.
“Agenda” is the most overused word with all football fans.
I don’t think he is good enough to be a starter for a United title chasing team. Do you?
No way. Maguire is no Rio or Vidic and yes we did over pay for him but he is a very good player. It would be great if we could put a top defender alongside him but Harry is not an issue at the club. Players like Jones and Rojo who we clearly don’t want should be out of the door instead.
He very rarely does either.
I've seen him misplace plenty of long balls, but his short game is usually very good. He is also very strong on the ball, difficult to dispossess and is surprisingly quick to break the lines when he has to. Always makes good room for himself to use the ball.
I believe he holds the ball a bit too long on times, but that's mostly down to a lack of movement ahead.
It's internet fans mate. Especially at a big club.
It's inevitable there will be a number of fans out of the 1000s who post here who hate every player, the manager, board, old boys at any given time.
If he isn't, then none of the rest of the lineup are, bar perhaps Bruno.
And he's very far down the list of priorities to replace.
I didn’t quite make out the first half if that, as for his far off elite I think he is, I class elite as top 5 in their position, I think Maguire is probably a top 30 centre back in the world.
This thread is nuts.
He’s top 3 in the league on his day. Top 5 across the season.
VVD and Laporte are head and shoulders above him. Everyone else is just best of the rest.
He’s top 3 in the league on his day. Top 5 across the season.
VVD and Laporte are head and shoulders above him. Everyone else is just best of the rest.
Maguire seems to bring out a special kind of hate. You get all these weird anti-English hypocrite tossers coming out of the woodwork having a pop.
It's a bit weird to me, he was the toast of the country in 2018 during and after the WC. Now he just seems universally hated and a bit of a joke to most
What centre back can we get that you think is good enough
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It’s very strange to read “x player is not our biggest issue” as if that should be an excuse to accept mediocrity? Maguire is what he is at this point, a solid defender when playing deep that is very good dealing with crosses, but horribly limited and out of his depth playing on a team looking to play a high line and press while dominating the ball. Is he the biggest problem in our side? Probably not, I’d say true holding mid is the most important piece we could add right now. But he’s still an issue for any fan that wishes to see United play attacking football on the front foot
I would class Telles an an elite left back & Bruno as an elite attacking midfielder. Elite as in top 5 in the world in their position. De Gea potentially, with an asterisk right now as he’s got 2 years of poor form to make up for.
Maguire could work as “second centre back” persay, the Joe Gomez, or if you wanna go way back, the Ronny Johnsen. He’s not good enough to be our number one centre back. Nowhere near.
There has been a similar thread about this not long time ago and it actually had some discussion, but it seems people have already decided to trash talk this thread anyway.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/should-we-consider-selling-harry-maguire.457917/
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/should-we-consider-selling-harry-maguire.457917/
Ok, but how big is the gap between Maguire and your idea of elite? Seriously, I honestly think Maguire could hold his own in most teams in the world. Of course I may be deluded and often I am but that’s how I see him.
If he’s not elite, then I view the gap as very small. I think he’s a top player.
The answer is noone knows but it wasnt that long ago that a centre back pairing of Morgan and huth won a title, so I'm gonna say yes why not?
An individual centre back can only do so much no matter how good they are, I actually believe our defence is good enough to win us a title with a functioning midfield and attack in front of it.
Our biggest issues are the 6,7 and 8 positions.
Since he joined United he has played every single League game for us completing 90minutes (46 games). He has not started in 8 of our 75 games. He's played a feck ton of football with very little rest. He's only missed 3 games since lockdown ended.
It's a relief that we've finally got a CB who isn't an injury prone wreck.
It's a relief that we've finally got a CB who isn't an injury prone wreck.
My thoughts exactly. The bar has been lowered sadly.
and no, he isn’t the biggest issue. He’s still an issue though, unless we’re happy being a 4th-6th club for the foreseeable.
he really has. Strange timing for this thread. Maybe he’s getting it in early for the weekend. Southampton away is going to be hard work
I think people just get frustrated with the constant barrage of negativity on our players. I’m guilty of this at times for sure but I just don’t see Maguire as being deserving of it right now and certainly not enough to flog on at a £20m loss.
There was a time a few years ago where we had a dreadful squad. A mix of terrible players, players who didn’t want to be here, players earning ridiculous sums of money and nothing to like about the team.
This team is as good a team as we’ve had in years and our defence is just not that bad that we should be looking at dismantling it. We’ve got good fullbacks on both sides and we’ve got a couple of good solid CBs with a great backup option of Axel (who I’d like to see start more alongside Maguire actually).
Maguire has literally been with us a season and was part of the 3rd best defence in the league last year if my memory serves me right. The guy is a top player.
For me, he's probably second best centre back in the league. Maybe joint with Laporte.
Interested to hear where you'd place him and who's above him @Schmeichel's Cartwheel ?
Interested to hear where you'd place him and who's above him @Schmeichel's Cartwheel ?
I won’t call you deluded because you’re entitled to your opinion & im not a fan of resorting to name calling when someone disagrees with me. I don’t think Maguire is a top 10 centre back in the world, so he’s quite far away from being elite. I’d class him as “good” but that isn’t good enough for United.
Absolutely sick of so called United supporters on here doing a hatchet job on our players.. if all our players are that bad then feck off.. go follow City or Liverpool..
VVD, Laporte, Dias, Thiago Silva, Alderweireld, Gabriel. In current form you’d have to put Vestegaard & Zouma above him also.
If we’re talking solely ball playing CB’s I rate Lindelof higher than him too. Although I think Maguire is the better overall defender.
Players are paid employees who will literally “feck off” to another club if offered more money. I will still be a United fan long after Maguire has moved on.Absolutely sick of so called United supporters on here doing a hatchet job on our players.. if all our players are that bad then feck off.. go follow City or Liverpool..
Terrible passer of the ball, apparently.
I’m more than capable of acknowledging my own delusion at times mate so don’t worry. You say he’s not top 10. That’s very subjective and you may be right, my point is though is how big is that gap between Maguire and a top 10 CB? Really, how big is that gap?
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Have you contacted the staff at MUFC with this information? This seems like something they should be made aware of.
Call the Main Switchboard at 0161 868 8000 and ask to be transfered to the office of Joel Glazer or Ed Woodward immediately so that they can take swift action and return Maguire to the Centerback pound and pickup a new lad someone left there.
I'm confused - why are so many people in this thread accusing @Schmeichel's Cartwheel of "hate" toward Maguire? You might disagree with his post, but it confounds me that anyone could read that post and think, "Yeah this guy hates United players."
and many of us are sick of people like you jumping to the defence of players for no other reason than they wear our shirt.Absolutely sick of so called United supporters on here doing a hatchet job on our players.. if all our players are that bad then feck off.. go follow City or Liverpool..
You're fecking kidding me!?
I know it’s a bonus part of his game but when is he going to start burying those corners and frees he keeps getting on the end of?
Hatchet job
Crazy
fecking nonsense
Caf has turned to shit
Can't understand the hate on Maguire
This place has become a joke full of agenda posting
All in response to the OP ... do some of you lads not think you're going a bit over the top with @Schmeichel's Cartwheel's post?
Crazy
fecking nonsense
Caf has turned to shit
Can't understand the hate on Maguire
This place has become a joke full of agenda posting
All in response to the OP ... do some of you lads not think you're going a bit over the top with @Schmeichel's Cartwheel's post?
Thats one of my genuine annoyances with Maguire right now, he gets so many good opportunities from crosses and he rarely gets it on target.