That's s nice suitI don't think this will be the last time we see Baby Yoda. I expect him to make a comeback in season 3 in some form as IMO Baby Yoda was a big reason for the success of the show and I'm sure has made disney millions if not billions as an IP. Will be interesting to see how the shows moves forward without Baby Yoda and if baby yoda has left the show for good, I don't see the show surviving for more than a season or two as all the other main characters like Boba Fett, Ahsoka have their own shows/stoeylines now.
Love the theme song/soundtrack and love what these guys did with it
Television The Mandalorian - TV Show
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
4, 5, 6, Rogue 1, 1, 2, 3.
@Gambit is right. Deep Fake ia amazing, in surprised they don't use it in Hollywood. Or do they?
They don't and I'm not sure why. Google did not lead me to a satisfactory answer.
I really have heard all SW opinions now
Looooooooooooooooooooooong story short, no one wants to be the first to do it.
This show really is like an adult playing with action figures. Which, is fun! but ultimately paper-thin. This show needs a desperately needs writers rooms. Favoiri is an average writer and the show would really benefit from some of the best tv writers getting together and adding some depth.
Then again the show seems to be well liked, so maybe all the have to do is keep smashing the figures together.
Then again the show seems to be well liked, so maybe all the have to do is keep smashing the figures together.
It's a daft stance though by the industry and one that's going to be forced upon them. The scrambling for digital imaging rights over the last few years for stars past and present by the studios, added to execs wanting to lower costs means its inevitable. Vfx acting all noble when in reality they're just a shop front for cheap Asian labour is pretty moot. A.I. Its going to blow it all apart.
Episode 4, 5 6
Then 1, 2, 3
Don’t watch the sequels.
Rogue One and Solo you can watch whenever really, they’re spin offs set between 3 and 4, but I think they’re enjoyed more if you know the story that follows them. Rogue One is incredible, second best film of the entire saga for me.
This is a pretty good well in depth run down of the Star Wars timeline
https://collider.com/star-wars-timeline-explained/
https://collider.com/star-wars-timeline-explained/
I mean, it doesnt desperately need it though?
Advises him to sit through episode 1 and 2 but not the ST. Makes sense
It does if it wants to be great. Apparently, it can pull off being super popular while being as deep as a puddle, though.
All the top tv shows have writers rooms. I don't know why this show thinks it's above it.
I don't know. it's a political/economical/legal quagmire for them, too. And will be for quite some time. The inertia against it is still great. And it already has been forced upon them by the technology; hence the scramble, which was a bit of a mad dash for toilet-paper - none of them is exactly sure when they're actually going to use all that extra.
The Vfx thing quickly becomes incredibly complicated once you start down that road. Yes, them now posturing like 'they stand with the actors' for leverage is like you say, but they know the studios would still have the bottleneck of generating a great face only to slap it on a poor performance. (Unless someone trains an incredibly nuanced AI on a vast library of entire physical performances, but that's getting into Matrix territory)
As for when major DF might happen: I don't know. Personally I think there's an outside chance we might get the odd usage of it in maybe a TV show or something like a Deadpool movie - likely mostly for comedic effect ("Hey everyone, it was just for fun"). But also that it's going to be a long time before we see it done in any serious capacity, especially with a major star.
Paradoxically, part of the reason is going to be how easy it is. Even now, a dude or dudette in their bedroom with enough time can do it. So right now, there's very little to gain from doing it; it's a whole lot of hoopla for something that ANYONE can change.
Which is why I don't think we'll really see a major single usage of it until twenty-thirty years from now when:
a. some of our current 'superstars' pass away and there's potential for a resultant large-scale demand for them in particular. And orders-of-magnitude more significantly:
b. if there's a huge - and i mean freaking huuuge - franchise linked to said deceased star and thus an overwhelming tsunami of fan desire against any 'recasting'. (AKA potential $$$$$ difference between recasting and 'being faithful to the performance and character that the deceased embodied' or whatever publicist-speak they'll use.)
And again, the key factor being that if you don't do it, someone else is going to.
For example, if a certain whip-wielding archeologist actor were to go to the big museum in the sky in 2040. And DF is absolutely ubiquitous; it's just everywhere, like memes and photoshop now. So if you don't do it yourself, a million bored fans across the world are going to do it and upload it anyways. And so a few years down the road the studio in 2048 goes: 'Hey superfans, we're not going to recast, we're just bringing back Henricksen Cadillac's digital likeness in the role.'
Right now and for the forseeable it's just too weird between the acting guilds and big agencies and the houses to imagine anything but some stunt usage like the James Dean thing in the works, or effects touch-up work to get around reshoot scheduling issues on a major show.
1 and 2 give you Anakin’s back story, the beginning of his relationship with Obi Wan and Padme, the start of the clone wars, Jango Fett, how Palpatine rises to power. Lots of stuff that adds to what happens later in the saga and the Mandalorian.Advises him to sit through episode 1 and 2 but not the ST. Makes sense
The sequel trilogy adds nothing to the story, all it does is undo everything the previous six movies did. ROTJ is the payoff of six films worth of story, Vader finally brings balance to the force and kills the Emperor, and it’s done because Luke showed him the right path. Then the sequels come along and strip all that away, bin off what Vader did and hand the victory to Rey, while also deciding Luke failed his job too and made things worse. Absolute steaming pile of turd that trilogy is.
Well, it was better than Leia in Rogue One, I give them that.
I would rather read the wiki of 1 and 2 for the backstory. I can find some redeeming features in all 9 movies, but to a non-fan, those two films, in particular, would be tough to sit through.
People grew up with them so I know why it happened, but the reappraisal of the prequel movies has been a sight to see. I guess nostalgia really is a hell of a drug.
Oh and Luke 'failing' was a good thing. I loved his arc in TLJ.
Worst Luke since the big one.
I agree. The prequels are good films, at best - the consensus being they are poor in comparison to the original trilogy. But, at least there is a purpose to them & the story is coherent. The sequels are incoherent, completely unnecessary & diminish the events of the original trilogy, particularly Luke’s character.
Story wise there really isn’t much I’d change. Phantom Menace was too political, sure, but the main plot thread of discovering Anakin and the Jedi realising the Sith are back, plus the beginning of Palpatine’s rise to power is all perfectly good as a story thread.
Issue with the prequels never was story for me, it’s narrative and in particular world building (plus the best soundtrack of the whole saga) is why it deserves a lot of praise compared to the new ones. It falls down on Lucas’ bad dialogue (particularly in AOTC) and some of the effects.
The prequels story shot with 2020 technology and effects, as well as a better writer, would be amazing. Luckily I watched them loads as a kid, and as someone above mentioned nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
It does not work really well in many cases, especially when it comes to videos.
Disagree and it all depends on how many generations of it you run. The simple deepfakes they've done over moff tarkin in rogue one is far superior.
I mean, who says its not great. General standing is that it is a great show for both seasons.
I dont know about being above it or not, but what they are doing is working no?
Yes, it's working but so does all kinds of popular shit that is often not great or sometimes even good. The writing on the show is not in the same league as the top tv shows. But hey, it gives us Luke wrecking fools, so that'll do for most, I guess.
I love Luke doing that too, I just wish I give a shit about the fate of any of the shows main characters outside of Grogu. And now he is gone. Oh, and Bill Burr was good last week, I liked him. He actually gave us some good dialogue. Get that director back.
That was awesome.
The first shot of the black glove/hand and green lightsaber - if you don't get chills from that you can't really be a Star Wars fan. Somehow I didn't see it coming!
The SW deepfakes are quite good, Harrison Ford in Solo is impressive too. That said Leia still looks like a CGI but I suspect it's due to them improving an existing CGI. I think it works better with actors that have a resemblance to their deep fake replacements. Anyway it's a scary app...imagine the potential fake news.
Loved it, great episode, great season.
Be interesting to see where they go now... You'd imagine they'll explore this dark sabre stuff more, which I'm a bit meh on as I find Katee Sackhoff to be a very poor actress, and although I love Sasha Banks, she's not great either... But then she does have the excuse of not actually being an actress.
Be interesting to see where they go now... You'd imagine they'll explore this dark sabre stuff more, which I'm a bit meh on as I find Katee Sackhoff to be a very poor actress, and although I love Sasha Banks, she's not great either... But then she does have the excuse of not actually being an actress.
Nah, they have really problems to make them run well, and not very good in temporal consistency or extreme poses.
I guess that is the reason why they are not used in movies yet. At the end of the day, in both cases we are talking for some algorithms so there are no reasons why some would be good and some not.
I just watched the finale. Oh my god. I cried.
Glad I watched that alone Not sure I could explain my reaction, it was weird. Like someone wrenched up some long forgotten memory.
Not sure I could explain my reaction, it was weird. Like someone wrenched up some long forgotten memory.WhatGlad I watched that alone
Sometimes Star Wars fans (wrongly) balk at the idea that Star Wars films are designed for children, as if that's a bad thing. But (as the TV critic Alan Sepinwall says in this positive review of the latest episode) this is absolutely a show designed for both children and inner children.
Obviously the writing is more simplistic, episodic and cliché-heavy than material designed for a mature audience but that doesn't make it bad (as some detractors seem to suggest). Rather it knows exactly what it is and it plays to its strengths.
They also know how to handle fan service (something I personally would often tend to balk at) well.
Obviously the writing is more simplistic, episodic and cliché-heavy than material designed for a mature audience but that doesn't make it bad (as some detractors seem to suggest). Rather it knows exactly what it is and it plays to its strengths.
They also know how to handle fan service (something I personally would often tend to balk at) well.
Having Luke appear could easily feel like more of the toxic nostalgia that blighted so many of the recent Star Wars films but in this context it absolutely serves the story. He was simply the most appropriate character to respond to Grogu's call. The fact that it also delighted the inner children of a load of Star Wars geeks is happy synergy.
I felt the choice of music with you-know-who's introduction was abit off. Wasn't seamless.
Well...
The thing is...
The OG trilogy is absolutely not aimed at children. Everytime I've ever watched OG star wars with any child, including my own kids, they often struggle to watch it.
It's long, it's slow. It's brilliant. It's not for kids.
They like the light saber battles. They like the droids. But it's a long slow film.
Everything since then, yeah it's for kids.
Disagree - loved the music
You're taking about two completely different generations. I don't think today's children have the attention span.
As a child who grew up when those films came out, who do you think bought all those toys?
Not every show needs phenomenal writing. This does fine with what it has. It's immensely popular and there's no need to change anything.
We're talking about films involving a blonde-haired, rope-swinging, princess-kissing hero dressed in all white coming up against a black-clad evil space-wizard who blows up planets and strangles people with evil magic in a spaceship literally called "the Death Star", engaging in entirely bloodless conflict with each other in which they fight with laser swords, shoot lightening out of their hands and (in the case of good guys who die) come back as helpful ghosts. Hell, ROTJ even has a dance number to go along with all the super kid-friendly Ewoks and characters with names like "Porkins".
Adult-orientated fare it ain't.
Put it this way: in terms of age-appropriate content, the likes of the Harry Potter films (which are absolutely children's films) contain far more challenging material for children than the OT does. You have a point about the pace but that applies to a lot of children's films from that era too. If the OT hadn't appealed to kids at the time, they wouldn't have been able to make millions selling them toys.
I'd accept "family-friendly" as a substitute for "kid's film" but the distinction is fairly slight.
Anyway, my point is that's all good and worthy stuff neither they nor this TV show should be criticised for. Doing family-friendly fun well is difficult.
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I'm sure it was all the kids lining up in the 70s to watch the film again and again
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I'm sure it was all the kids lining up in the 70s to watch the film again and again
Perhaps if you’re using a rather young age as a cutoff for the term “children”. But older children absolutely lap it up, same as they do with video games that require the use of skill and memory.
Obviously someone who is just past toddler-hood will not dive into this stuff the same as a 10-year old, but that doesn’t mean it’s not designed at least partially with children in mind.