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Graham Potter is really showing some fantastic skills as a manager. He has taken a long ball frantic football club and made the play some fantastic football. They were really pleasing to watch against a terribly boring Newcastle team.
 

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I’ve been trying to think of a time when I’ve seen us play better than that. The Spurs game at the Amex last year possibly springs to mind, but I don’t think I’ve seen us keep up that level of slick, pacey and technically impressive football for a full 90 before. Flashes of it definite, but never the whole game.

Maupay scored two, but without doubt Lamptey was MoM even though we took him off after an hour. What a steal for 3 million quid. If he carries on like this, he’ll be worth 60 million by the end of this season!

Great to Connolly get on the score sheet as well, he’s a proper scrappy forward winning the ball back in midfield and constantly driving the team forward and Trossard is looking class again as well after a bit of a hit and miss first season.

All that without even mentioning White, he was solid defensively and played some beautiful through balls to launch attacks.

I’ve said before that Potter plays a billion different formations, we started in a 343 switching to 145 when we lost the ball and then in the second half switched to 442 without dropping off the pace once.

Only downside was Bissouma’s red card, definitely dangerous play, but completely unintentional, I would have given a yellow, but I am biased! But with the choice of Propper or Stephens to come in instead, it shows good depth in our team.

Tl:dr solid in defence, creative and dangerous in attack, Newcastle didn’t stand a chance!

EDIT forgot to say, what’s really pleasing is the amount of academy graduates on the pitch Dunk, White, March, Connolly and Alzate - 5 out of the starting 11, our investments there are really paying off.
 
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Looking good, @The Boy .

Lamptey is getting all the praise but what do you make of Trossard? He impresses me everytime I see him.
I think Trossard is a quality player. He was a bit hit and miss last season and hampered by injury. But he’s skillfull, creative and has an eye for goal. He’s just won his first cap for Belgium and I would hope for a big season from him this year.
 
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Another strong showing from our shadow squad. It shows where we’ve come from in the last couple of decades that we still think of PNE as one of our bogey teams. The last time we were at Deepdale we lost 2-0.

Good to see Mac Allister and Jahanbakhsh both get on the score sheet again, we really have a good bit of depth to this squad for the first time in years.

Surprisingly Jayson Molumby was left out of the squad and Propper played with Potter suggesting Molumby would replace Bissouma against United this weekend. He’s another of our youngsters who impressed on loan last season, this time playing 40 games in the centre of Millwall’s midfield. He’s just been capped for Ireland for the first time as well and like White and Clarke big things are expected of him. He’s even been compared to a young Roy Keane!

We’ll see on Saturday!
 

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Big moment for Dale Stephens. 4 years ago Burnley tried to buy him, he even put in a transfer request (he's from Lancashire) we turned it all down. He didn't bat an eyelid and carried on like a pro. He has been immense in central midfield both in the Championship and the Prem. But we have a new generation of midfielders coming through now and I wish him all the best for his dream move. Top bloke
 

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This is the big difference between Brighton fans and United fans...

When your linked with someone 9 out of 10 times you all know who he is, when we are it’s off to google for me!

I think I’m happy about this, but we’ll see.
 

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So so unlucky today. They were really really good in everything they did. Amount of chances they create is so impressive. We played shite but they had a lot to do with that. Possible top ten finish ?
 
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Potter will be fuming about the goals they did concede... The Rashy one fair enough, but the other two were totally avoidable.

But yeah, great performance from them otherwise, think everyone agrees they deserve the win...keep it up and they'll do well this season.
 

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I liked the look of Ben White.

One to watch for the future.

Possibly a 50-60m signing for us in a few years time :lol:
 

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Everytime I’ve seen Trossard he looks a tidy wee player who could make another move up In Clubs
 

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Thought I would wait to get both games out of the way before posting.

We were unlucky in the first match, at the very least we deserved a draw, I thought we played exceptionally well and on a slightly better day we could have scored 4 or 5 goals against you. There were times in the match where we tore United apart at will. Really nice to see March having a great game after all the talk was about Lamptey. Also I think Trossard will be immense for us this season, he took a bit of time to settle last year and struggled with a few injuries, but he looks great right now.

The cup game was a fairer result though, I think 3-0 flattered you. Thought from the United side of things Mata was great and Pogba's goal was outstanding. But our second team looked strong and looking forward I think we can have high hopes for this season.

Away at Everton next which will be tough, they're flying at the moment but hopefully we can pick up points there. Then Palace away where I fully expect to get the 3 points. If we can get 4 from the next two games I will be very happy.
 

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Brighton has impressed me in the few matches I've seen this season, with a bit of luck they could be looking back at matches against Chelsea and us with at least 4 points. Thought they ran the show in periods against Chelsea and tbh they deserved the win against us at the weekend. Trossard and Lamptey being the standout players for me. Think they might surprise a few this season.
 

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Who would have thought that Brighton would be one of the most entertaining teams in the league to watch? Potter has done a great job with them; he has turned them into a real team. He is a manager to look out for in the future; still pretty young for a manager at 45.

Dominated Manutd and Chelsea in the PL. It shows the impact a well-implemented system can have on a team. A lot of the players are the same as last season, but the system just makes it work.

One major issue seems to be that they haven't got a consistent goalscorer. Some good signings made, as well, particularly Lamptey who looks class (Already being linked with Bayern Munich).
 

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What the hell has happened to Izquierdo? Seems like he hasn't played for two years, was good in your first season up.
 

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Then Palace away where I fully expect to get the 3 points. If we can get 4 from the next two games I will be very happy.
Bring it on :D Two teams playing well so far, will be a good game I’m sure.
 

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Bring it on :D Two teams playing well so far, will be a good game I’m sure.
I thought as I wrote that that it might bring you out of the woodwork! It could be one of our highest quality derbies ever!
 

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What the hell has happened to Izquierdo? Seems like he hasn't played for two years, was good in your first season up.
He hasn’t played sine Hughton was boss. He’s been out for more than 18 months with a knee injury. But he’s now back training with squad and should return soon. It would be great to have a fully fit Izquierdo back challenging for a place too. I thought he might get a few minutes in the cup game, but apparently it’s still too soon.
 

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Who would have thought that Brighton would be one of the most entertaining teams in the league to watch? Potter has done a great job with them; he has turned them into a real team. He is a manager to look out for in the future; still pretty young for a manager at 45.

Dominated Manutd and Chelsea in the PL. It shows the impact a well-implemented system can have on a team. A lot of the players are the same as last season, but the system just makes it work.

One major issue seems to be that they haven't got a consistent goalscorer. Some good signings made, as well, particularly Lamptey who looks class (Already being linked with Bayern Munich).
They've certainly shut up the morons wishing ill on them for sacking Hughton.
 

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Having calmed down a bit from straight after the match, I am getting tired of our luck already this season. We should have beaten United in the league, we should have at least got a point against Chelsea and we certainly should have beaten Palace. I can forgive Everton as they were the better team on the day and James played a blinder.

That Palace game was so frustrating, we had all the possession and all the shots, they literally had one shot on target and that was a soft penalty. To come away with a point is such a disappointment. But looking at the positives, once again I am so pleased with the way we play, every game so far we've been sharp in transition, pressing really well and played some creative and attractive football. I genuinely think we're alot better than our position shows.

Playing White in midfield alongside Bissouma was an interesting choice from Potter, but fair play I think White was probably man of that match. Glad Mac Allister finally got a goal in the league, he shows so much promise, I think there's a lot more to come from him.

Lots of people are already pointing the finger at our attackers saying they should have taken their chances better and I guess that's fair enough. But I can't complain about goals this season, Maupay scored 10 goals in the prem last season, he's already scored 4 in 5 this season and as a team we've scored 9 in 5, if that carries on at this rate that'll be 20 plus goals for Maupay and about 60 goals for this season compared to 39 last season.

We just need a bit of luck and to be fair I'm not sure Danny Welbeck is the answer!

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Possession Brighton 66% Palace 34%
Shots Brighton 20 Palace 1

Final score 1-1 feck Palace were lucky.

EDIT If we had drawn at Cheslea, beaten you lot and beaten Palace we would be third in the league above Liverpool. Also forgot to say Dunk's red card fully deserved, don't know what he was thinking. I love Dunk but he lost his head for a second there, still he's no stranger to being sent off against Palace.
 

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I've only watched your two games against United and a bit of the CP game so far, do pardon me if my observations seem way off the mark. I really like the look of BHA and I hope you guys can develop your talented base of players to the next level and kick on a la Leicester.

Defense: I really like the look of White and can totally see why Leeds bid 30 M for him in the summer. Would have loved to see White maraud more into United's area. I'm not a big fan of Dunk or Webster so far. Both of them seem to be slow and less assured on the ball than White. You play with 3 at the back, and so generally would end up with a free man in defense. Not sure I like that, when you're defenders aren't the best at dribbling or passing. That free man might be free utilized in the midfield instead?
I also thought that BHA were pretty poor at defending and attacking set pieces, considering they've 3 big center backs on the pitch. Poor set piece management hurt you in both of United's games. This seems like a low hanging fruit and a critical area to improve upon. Lamptey has been great in some games, but was noticeably quite against United. March looks to have a great engine, just wished he was better at finishing when he had so much time and space.

Midfield: Loved what I saw of Alzate in the league game. He was great at keeping control of the ball in tight spaces and starting a lot of your counters. Bissouma also seems to be good from the little I've seen. Not been very impressed with Lallana so far. Pretty impressed with your midfield two dominated United's three.

Attack: I felt Connolly tried to hold on to the ball too much instead of spreading the ball out wide. He seems to have good strength for his stature. Would be great if he can call on some of those Argentine street smart skills to bait in the defense and release your wide men. It feels you'd do great with a striker who can play with this back to the goal and bring the ball down for your wingers. Maupay doesn't seem to be clinical enough and isn't as involved in the penalty area as I'd like. Maybe his role is to occupying players and free up others, I'd have to watch you more to say definitively. Trossard has been brilliant at finding spaces, but some of his finishing has been criminal. For his fifth (!) missed chance, there was no need to smash the ball when he had all the time to place it. Since you're wide men aren't supposed to be wingers, I'd expect them to be better skillful dribblers, full of trickery. So not sure why Knockaert and Jahanbaksh aren't preferred here. Have they had any disciplinary issues?


Overall, BHA definitely give me Southampton vibes so far. Great a moving the ball from defense to attack. Skilled at controlling the ball in the midfield, but lacking cutting edge in both attack and defense. You approach of focusing more on controlling the game and somewhat ignoring to have clinical players in attack and defense, might hurt you. Hopefully you can add some more grit and ruthlessness to your team in the future windows. I'm definitely looking forward to see how BHA and Potter do this season.
 

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On the flip side, you could also count yourself lucky to score a deflected equaliser in the closing minutes to save yourself from another defeat? Not denying that you didn't 'deserve' a win, but it was almost a loss! Hopefully it will have given the players a lift (I do like Brighton and Potter...) and the luck will even itself out soon.
 

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Brighton look good and I think they will comfortably stay up and probably get a win or two over some of the big sides. I think they will continue to have issues scoring goals though. Maupay is good but not brilliant for that level and I don't think they have enough goal threats in their team in general, even if their approach play is good.
 

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Having calmed down a bit from straight after the match, I am getting tired of our luck already this season. We should have beaten United in the league, we should have at least got a point against Chelsea and we certainly should have beaten Palace. I can forgive Everton as they were the better team on the day and James played a blinder.

That Palace game was so frustrating, we had all the possession and all the shots, they literally had one shot on target and that was a soft penalty. To come away with a point is such a disappointment. But looking at the positives, once again I am so pleased with the way we play, every game so far we've been sharp in transition, pressing really well and played some creative and attractive football. I genuinely think we're alot better than our position shows.

Playing White in midfield alongside Bissouma was an interesting choice from Potter, but fair play I think White was probably man of that match. Glad Mac Allister finally got a goal in the league, he shows so much promise, I think there's a lot more to come from him.

Lots of people are already pointing the finger at our attackers saying they should have taken their chances better and I guess that's fair enough. But I can't complain about goals this season, Maupay scored 10 goals in the prem last season, he's already scored 4 in 5 this season and as a team we've scored 9 in 5, if that carries on at this rate that'll be 20 plus goals for Maupay and about 60 goals for this season compared to 39 last season.

We just need a bit of luck and to be fair I'm not sure Danny Welbeck is the answer!

BBC Stats for the game

Possession Brighton 66% Palace 34%
Shots Brighton 20 Palace 1

Final score 1-1 feck Palace were lucky.

EDIT If we had drawn at Cheslea, beaten you lot and beaten Palace we would be third in the league above Liverpool. Also forgot to say Dunk's red card fully deserved, don't know what he was thinking. I love Dunk but he lost his head for a second there, still he's no stranger to being sent off against Palace.
As you can imagine a lot of Palace fans are really unhappy with our approach to that game. Nothing new though and what we all feared/expected beforehand. But at the same time they pulled up a stat that in the last 24 games where we've taken the lead we have won 20, drawn 4 and lost none I think it was. So as soon as we went 1 up I think it was inevitable we'd let you have the ball and see if you could break us down. Not my cup of tea to be honest and especially at home but that's what you get with a Hodgson team and to be fair it almost worked...the offside on Bats was marginal and there was an element of luck (which I thought you deserved to be fair, no gripes from me) for the equaliser.

I think there is a general trend for the last year or so of Brighton playing easy on the eye football but not getting results so definitely something Potter needs to work on addressing, not sure if it's a team balance thing or what? It can't always be luck.

For our part I am really disappointed in the lack of chances we created even while playing a safety first style after going 1-0 up. We had players like Eze on the bench that could have come on and opened you up but Roy didn't want to take the risk. He is an absolute conundrum, possibly one of the most frustrating managers we've ever had at times but I look at a points return of 7 after 5 games with some tough fixtures (Saints, Utd, Everton, Chelsea, Brighton) and hand on heart, I can't argue with it! I have no idea if I want him replaced or not.
 

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I think there is a general trend for the last year or so of Brighton playing easy on the eye football but not getting results so definitely something Potter needs to work on addressing, not sure if it's a team balance thing or what? It can't always be luck.

For our part I am really disappointed in the lack of chances we created even while playing a safety first style after going 1-0 up. We had players like Eze on the bench that could have come on and opened you up but Roy didn't want to take the risk. He is an absolute conundrum, possibly one of the most frustrating managers we've ever had at times but I look at a points return of 7 after 5 games with some tough fixtures (Saints, Utd, Everton, Chelsea, Brighton) and hand on heart, I can't argue with it! I have no idea if I want him replaced or not.
The results despite looking easy on the eye issue is completely different this season to last I think. Last season we just were not creative enough in the final third, we played out well and passed through midfield very nicely, but were always let down by the attack not just bot quite getting it right. This year we've scored more and our attacking line up feels very different. I agree we had alot to do but I think Potter has done that with the introduction of Lamptey, both Connolly and Maupay have improved and Trossard and March are looking strong too. I might be bias but for me this season has definitely been bad luck especially the United and Palace games!

I was surprised that Eze didnt come on, I'm looking forward to seeing him play. Also to be fair you have made me think, you're happy with 7 from 5, we have 6 from 5 also from tough fixtures (Chelsea, Newcastle, United, Everton, Palace) so I should be happy really. I'm just finding us very frustrating at the moment
 

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The palace penalty was never a penalty either. Batshuayi was already falling backwards and inbalanced, no way in hell does tiny little Lamptey do enough to make him fall over, joke of a decision :lol:

you have to wonder sometimes, they give penalties for things like that, but guys like Maguire can get fully rugby tackled at corner kicks and nothing is given? refs are strange folk.
 

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I really enjoy watching them play and they're a neutral's favourite but the blunt truth is they don't win many games or keep clean sheets (probably less of a problem this season).

Since December 8th they've played 28 games, won 5.

Some talented players in there but something is missing as I don't see why they can't push on and finish top half like Burnley and Sheffield United have done in recent seasons.

Still home games v West Brom and Burnley give you chance of 6 points and to move into mid table pack.
 

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Agree @The Boy , a very frustrating game v Palace. Should have been 3 points, but it did feel good to see that Mac Allister goal finally fly in.

I agree with your point on Maupay too - many saying his poor finishing is going to cost us, but he's done really well in his first season and a bit in the Prem. Should have scored at least once yesterday though!

Potter needs to ensure confidence doesn't drop - and I'm sure he will succeed - as Brighton have been very unlucky this season.
 

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Brighton actually randomly remind me of the Wigan team a decade or so ago. Probably more the one under Bruce than Martinez. Had likes of Scharner, Amir Zaki, Heskey, Cattermole, Figueroa, Wilson Palacios, Antonio Valencia etc.

They started off 2008/09 with just two wins in first 10 but ran some of the better teams close (can remember in second game v Chelsea playing them off the pitch but they simply couldn't finish) and also conceded plenty of late goals.

Then around November it clicked for them and they had excellent run and eventually finished 11th (would've been higher but they sold a few in the January window). Certainly think 9th or 10th can be realistic finish for Brighton if they start winning soon.
 

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I was surprised that Eze didnt come on, I'm looking forward to seeing him play. Also to be fair you have made me think, you're happy with 7 from 5, we have 6 from 5 also from tough fixtures (Chelsea, Newcastle, United, Everton, Palace) so I should be happy really. I'm just finding us very frustrating at the moment
Yeah, as you well know by now if you can keep yourself to at least a point per game then there's usually not too much cause to look behind you. Those are tough fixtures so I'd say a 6 point haul is good.

The Eze thing is frustrating as hell, I can only assume Roy didn't fancy him to come on with us defending a lead. I have heard Roy talk a lot about how it will take Eze time to learn the defensive side of the game which, with our wooden attack, is probably the last thing any of us want to hear given the type of player he is and how much we are crying out for a creative spark.

I do back you to finish above us this season for the first time in a long time though. Welbeck is a shrewd signing if he can stay fit.
 

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They're bang in trouble surely now. Played Sheffield united, Burnley and West Brom all at home already, 0 wins.

Potter's a decent coach but way overrated based on a good showing in Sweden. Considering the flak Eddie Howe used to get on this forum even when he was finishing comfortably mid table at Bournemouth I think he gets off pretty lightly on here considering how savage this forum gets even with high achieving managers e.g. Hasenhuttl.

I actually think a problem is how their system is based a bit on the collective and they have no individual player capable of winning them games on their own like we had with Grealish last year and Palace with Zaha over last 3 years.
 

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They have the worst goalkeeper in the league, and they can't finish

That's it
 

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Ryan's been dropped last two games but I wouldn't say he's near the worst in the league but then I think the vast majority of prem keepers are pretty good so hard to rank 1-20 as standard is miles better than 20 years ago.
 

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Ryan's been dropped last two games but I wouldn't say he's near the worst in the league but then I think the vast majority of prem keepers are pretty good so hard to rank 1-20 as standard is miles better than 20 years ago.
He's statistically the worst starting gk in the league this season. Worse than Pickford

Brighton conceded the second fewest shots and shots on target so far. With a good goalkeeper they'd be in the top 6. With an average goalkeeper and good strikers, they'd be in the top 6. Hells, if you put Lloris, Kane and Son into this side, they'd give liverpool a title race
 

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He's statistically the worst starting gk in the league this season. Worse than Pickford

Brighton conceded the second fewest shots and shots on target so far. With a good goalkeeper they'd be in the top 6. With an average goalkeeper and good strikers, they'd be in the top 6. Hells, if you put Lloris, Kane and Son into this side, they'd give liverpool a title race
He was fine in their other seasons. O.k probably a disaster at Valencia but who wasn't in the Neville season. Ramsdale is worst keeper in the league imo and I was saying that last year at Bournemouth so interested where he figures in that metric.

Maupay scored 10 goals for them last season which wasn't terrible for striker in his first season in top flight. Even this season he's scored 4 in about 11 games.

Ah xG...if you put Kane and Son to the left of Grealish I suspect we'd be doing o.k aswell. :lol:
 

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He was fine in their other seasons. O.k probably a disaster at Valencia but who wasn't in the Neville season. Ramsdale is worst keeper in the league imo and I was saying that last year at Bournemouth so interested where he figures in that metric.

Maupay scored 10 goals for them last season which wasn't terrible for striker in his first season in top flight. Even this season he's scored 4 in about 11 games.

Ah xG...if you put Kane and Son to the left of Grealish I suspect we'd be doing o.k aswell. :lol:
Last season doesn't really matter now does it. Ramsdale is bad, Ryan's been worse. Maupay should have more than 4 and the team as a whole more than 16. But it's the goals allowed that are really the big issue, considering how many goals they've conceded vs the number of chances they gave up. Some of it is sheer bad luck, but mostly it's a lack of quality goalkeeping
 

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I don’t think he’s suited for a club that is battling relegation. He’d do better at a club with a bit of history and money like West Ham or us etc. Brighton always seem to play really well, be the best team on the day but end up losing. He needs a plan b but like Howe he hasn’t got one. Looks like it will be the downfall of both of them.
 

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I don’t think he’s suited for a club that is battling relegation. He’d do better at a club with a bit of history and money like West Ham or us etc. Brighton always seem to play really well, be the best team on the day but end up losing. He needs a plan b but like Howe he hasn’t got one. Looks like it will be the downfall of both of them.
Again...they don't need a plan B, they need a goalkeeper who can make a save
 

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He's statistically the worst starting gk in the league this season. Worse than Pickford

Brighton conceded the second fewest shots and shots on target so far. With a good goalkeeper they'd be in the top 6. With an average goalkeeper and good strikers, they'd be in the top 6. Hells, if you put Lloris, Kane and Son into this side, they'd give liverpool a title race
Ryan has been good in previous seasons. They have had a disproportionate amount of bad luck this season. I think their main issue is in the quality of their attacking players. The same thing happened last season, their goals scored did not near reflect how many chances they created. They need to invest in attack as soon as possible, ideally in January. Potter has done a brilliant job with them, and with further backing there is a lot of potential.

It would be a shame for their fans to turn on Potter now, just because they are in a run of bad results. Too often there is the conclusion that changing the manager will solve every problem. In this case I think it is clear to see that the problems lie elsewhere.
 

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Still not sure if you actually look at the hightlights from the early season. No way he could be saving from Reece James and Rashford strike once it took deflection.



The run out to take down for Jorginho's penalty was poor call but dopey play to lose the ball in first place.


9 goals there which is nearly 50% of what they've conceded this season and he probably should've done better on two of them. They've conceded about 4 or 5 penalties this season aswell.