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[Shane88]

I don't see the issue tbh
Sting working with darby allin could be great. Though I don't want sting wrestling (unless it's a one and done deal in a tag environment)

They've had thunder Rosa and the impact belt on the show. If they can get people watching both shows its a good idea. It's worth trying especially if they can get new Japan involved too. Maybe roh? Who knows

Don't see it being like roh/czw from about 15 years ago but this is intriguing at least

The omega/Ambrose match was meh.

Even if it's just a managerial role, it's just another old legend/young guy pairing to add to Jake, Arn, Tully, Tazz.

If it's in-ring return then to put in perspective, Undertaker is 55. Sting is 61.

But the absolute worst thing about last night is is that it will shine a light on the most overrated tag team of the last decade, Gallows and Anderson. Those tools and those other tools, The Young Bucks, will no doubt have a feud centred around a 25 year old hand gesture.

 

[Sylar]

Even if it's just a managerial role, it's just another old legend/young guy pairing to add to Jake, Arn, Tully, Tazz.

If it's in-ring return then to put in perspective, Undertaker is 55. Sting is 61.

But the absolute worst thing about last night is is that it will shine a light on the most overrated tag team of the last decade, Gallows and Anderson. Those tools and those other tools, The Young Bucks, will no doubt have a feud centred around a 25 year old hand gesture.

Id rather see their method of using old guys who have prescence or can talk to promote the newer talent, vs WWEs method of bringing an old guy to defeat a younger guy, or win a title, then fck off and be left with the young guy who is now a jobber.

Its intriguing with the cross company, but I guess the first important part will be the Impact segment with Kenny, his promo and how it does and how it builds to whichever direction they are going.
I tend to read impact stuff online, but I think this is the first time in years that ill actually want to watch an impact segment.

 

[Ekeke]

I've been critical of AEW but I was intrigued when I heard about Sting and moreso about the Impact collab.

It could be good and will get people talking. If Sting wins the title ala Goldberg, then they should rightly get slaughtered.

So this is obviously the idea. Lapsed fans and the 50+ audience that WWE/NXT wins by a mile every week. An old star from the prime TNT wrestling days who people used to watch. AEW does great with the people already watching and the houses already watching, but theres loads of people who dont know what it is or that there is another big wrestling show. Stuff like this and celebs like Shaq are what might get them to take a look

As for Impact I'm 100% neutral on it right now. It completely depends how they do it, it could be kinda cool or it could really suck

 

[Bwuk]

Signing a 61 year old to wrestle full time is ridiculous.

AEW is far bigger than Impact, I don’t see what they benefit from this. No-one even watches Impact.

Glad the belt is on Omega, he should of had it from day 1.

 

[Rolandofgilead]

Signing a 61 year old to wrestle full time is ridiculous.

AEW is far bigger than Impact, I don’t see what they benefit from this. No-one even watches Impact.

Glad the belt is on Omega, he should of had it from day 1.

Nobody knows if he is even there to wrestle at all yet.

 

[SalfordRed18]

Signing a 61 year old to wrestle full time is ridiculous.

AEW is far bigger than Impact, I don’t see what they benefit from this. No-one even watches Impact.

Glad the belt is on Omega, he should of had it from day 1.

Is he there to wrestle? Would of thought he was an on-screen personality at best.

I dunno if putting the belt on Omega would have been the best idea. Jericho is a draw that gets eyes on a brand new company. Gives it AEW credibility, legitimacy to a point. He was never "the" guy in WWE, but was always over. How much of a draw is/was Kenny Omega in the US outside of wrestling fans?

 

[Sylar]

The issue they had was having omega lose a few matches to begin with
And young bucks were losing to teams like private party

But the whole story of him losing to mox in that unsanctioned match then winning a year later (after the gentleman's agreement) was great. Nice twist with the finish (though the March wasn't great, with the chair down or figuring out who the heel or face was. Felt like two heels with one becoming more of a heel?)

Biggest travesty was the cleaner girls not being there for the entrance

Agree with @SalfordRed18 , Jericho getting the title first was the best move

 

[Ekeke]

Impact is the biggest cross over they could do, with current real world covid precautions meaning that even if they had an agreement with New Japan people wouldnt be coming over right now anyway.

Impact does have some history to play off back when people used to watch it and more importantly, plenty of lapsed fans that could add to the AEW viewership. Theres a few matchups that would be cool and any "invasion" or multi company "war" has potential to be talked about a lot and noteworthy. AEW also has a big roster and for a lot of the people who arent getting a big push on Dynamite weekly it would benefit them to have some success on Impact to help build them up. Those are the positives. But again I'm 100% neutral on it because we dont know how they're doing it, who might or might not be sent over and we will only know if AEW is reaching those lapsed fans and getting them interested in AEW if the ratings go up as the weeks go by with it going on. If they don't then its not working for that part. It could be positive, it could suck or it could have next to no impact whatsoever with Kenny appearing once on the show and Don Callis managing him but pretty much nothing else happening

 

[Ekeke]

Also on Jericho, it doesn't really matter that he was never "the guy" in WWE because WWE and NXT havent had "the guy" either since Brock and maybe Ronda. If NXT and WWE were having The Rock come out and AEW had Jericho coming out then it would be something to consider. They dont. They have had a bunch of people who they wanted to be a heel or a babyface, the audience wanted the opposite and worked against them and who didnt really move the numbers much. For WWE its pretty much the WWE name that draws a certain amount of loyal viewers and occasionally bringing back an old star for a few weeks. Even that doesnt always work. Edge for example did nothing for ratings

 

[Bwuk]

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Nobody knows if he is even there to wrestle at all yet.

He is. They've given him a a page on the roster - https://www.allelitewrestling.com/roster

None of the other non wrestlers have a record.

Is he there to wrestle? Would of thought he was an on-screen personality at best.

I dunno if putting the belt on Omega would have been the best idea. Jericho is a draw that gets eyes on a brand new company. Gives it AEW credibility, legitimacy to a point. He was never "the" guy in WWE, but was always over. How much of a draw is/was Kenny Omega in the US outside of wrestling fans?

Is Jericho even a draw? AEW wanted to establish themselves as something different, Omega should of won and had a long run, rather than have Jericho win and defend against ex-WWE and then another ex-WWE win it from him.

 

[Rolandofgilead]

He is. They've given him a a page on the roster - https://www.allelitewrestling.com/roster

None of the other non wrestlers have a record.



Is Jericho even a draw? AEW wanted to establish themselves as something different, Omega should of won and had a long run, rather than have Jericho win and defend against ex-WWE and then another ex-WWE win it from him.
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Yeah I was just coming to post that. I saw a win/loss record on the roster page so guess he will be an active performer.

We will just have to see how he does i guess. There have been examples of older performers exceeding expectations in the past, Ricky Steamboat springs to mind, but let's see how he does before passing judgement.

Either way, I've fallen in love with Pro wrestling again. I really enjoy AEW, I'm looking forward to Impact which is something I haven't said in over a decade. NXT is decent enough. I still can't get invested in Raw or Smackdown at the moment but we are approaching Rumble season so that may change.

Its just a good time to be a wrestling fan if you don't treat it like a tribal thing.

@Bwuk this was in reply to you. I messed the quote up somehow.

 

[Ekeke]

He is. They've given him a a page on the roster - https://www.allelitewrestling.com/roster

None of the other non wrestlers have a record.



Is Jericho even a draw? AEW wanted to establish themselves as something different, Omega should of won and had a long run, rather than have Jericho win and defend against ex-WWE and then another ex-WWE win it from him.

Yeah I was just coming to post that. I saw a win/loss record on the roster page so guess he will be an active performer.

We will just have to see how he does i guess. There have been examples of older performers exceeding expectations in the past, Ricky Steamboat springs to mind, but let's see how he does before passing judgement.

Either way, I've fallen in love with Pro wrestling again. I really enjoy AEW, I'm looking forward to Impact which is something I haven't said in over a decade. NXT is decent enough. I still can't get invested in Raw or Smackdown at the moment but we are approaching Rumble season so that may change.

Its just a good time to be a wrestling fan if you don't treat it like a tribal thing.

@Bwuk this was in reply to you. I messed the quote up somehow.

Nobody is a draw right now because a draw is someone who people pay to watch. Theres minimal crowds or no crowds.

But when it comes to ratings, he's only lost his segment 1 time to NXT since AEW started and that was to Sasha and Bayley, Smackdown stars appearing on NXT. So he's been very valuable to AEW out of the people they have to use. If The Rock was available obviously he'd have been far more impactful, other than that there arent many alternatives who would have done better.

 

[Dirty Schwein]

Where can I watch AEW in UK? I want to see Stinger!

 

[paulscholes18]

Where can I watch AEW in UK? I want to see Stinger!

ITV hub & it’s on ITV4 on Friday’s nights at 11:30

 

[Dirty Schwein]

ITV hub & it’s on ITV4 on Friday’s nights at 11:30

Thank you

 

[Scorpy]

Reigns is quite possibly the best heel in years.

 

[Dirty Schwein]

 

[Rolandofgilead]

ITV hub & it’s on ITV4 on Friday’s nights at 11:30

You can also buy it on fite TV for 4.99 a month and can watch it live and on demand

 

[Shane88]

Congrats to Becky and Rollins!

 

[Yagami]

I've just learnt that Vince McMahon's mother is still alive. She's 100 years old.

It's in the genes. Vince is going to outlive us all and wrestling itself.

 

[SalfordRed18]

Who's watching impact then?

 

[Ekeke]

So it was just a video package at the end where Omega said he used to be a comic book collector, now he wants to collect some belts. He mentioned the impact title. So we'll probably see that match. Its the "Real World Champion" gimmick where he will travel to other places. There is no "invasion" or anything beyond Callis and Omega appearing and hinting at an Impact title shot. This could even be a one off if they never make the match or the match takes places on AEW.

Undoubtably good for Impact

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[SalfordRed18]

Fair fecks to AEW(and impact), I'm all in on this story. Dynamite tonight is a must watch.

 

[Shane88]

Damian Priest is head and shoulders above everyone on that NXT roster, literally and in terms having star power about him.

As for Karrion Kross?

Nobody is looking at you, bud.

 

[Ekeke]

AEW 995k with its best demo rating. So at least for now Sting and the interest in whats happening with Omega is working. Like with WWE, when you bring back an old star it tends to spike the number for a week or two and then people are over it. So that might happen with Sting too

 

[Sylar]

Hopefully the rest of the show stays strong and gives people other reasons to watch and continue watching

 

[CassiusClaymore]

Good Dynamite that. Omega is cheesy as feck though sometimes. I was actually surprised how good Ortiz was on the mic. Loved that whole Inner Circle bit and Miro going apeshit at the end was hilarious.

 

[Dirty Schwein]

 

[Ekeke]

I'm finally catching up on NJPW. Saw the angle at G1 and Ospreay's heel faction The Empire with Bea, from Stardom and Oka on his return from excursion - I have to agree with Meltzer that hes pretty boring. But now looking at the tag league and the next to join was Jeff Cobb - Now thats a real recruit and The Empire should start to be a lot more exciting with Ospreay and Cobb in the same group.

 

[Shane88]

Sticking Omega with two fecking clowns, Gallows and Anderson, has immediately killed any interest I had in his exploits outside AEW.

 

[SalfordRed18]

Sticking Omega with two fecking clowns, Gallows and Anderson, has immediately killed any interest I had in his exploits outside AEW.

Nah I'm here for it.

 

[Ekeke]

Ben Carter is joining NXT UK. He looked good on his match in AEW with people saying he should be given a contract, good luck to him

 

[Sylar]

I think ill wait until road to WM until I try to watch Raw and SD again. SD was fun for a short period, but mostly boring nonsense like Raw again.

SD a month or two ago had
-the whole Bayley/Sasha feud which was rushed for some reason despite it being one of the hottest acts they had
-Roman (which they still got, so hes pretty much the only good thing, but his opponents are all treated like jobbers inc Owens now)
-The mysterios before they did the weird feud with Baron
-Otis who was MITB and not whatever the fck they are doing with him now (again, whats the point breaking up a tag team like they did)

Shame NXT and AEW are the same night (in terms of ratings) as they are the only two US shows worth watching (and well highlights of impact to see the AEW related stuff for now imo)

 

[Ekeke]

Someone posted a video with some of the highlights of AJPW from the late 80s and early 90s


A very quick way to see how good they were

 

[paulscholes18]

Great logic WWE, take the MITB off Otis so The Miz can fail a cash in. Very good match all the same though

 

[Shane88]

Orton just murders a man and pops the Legend Killer pose.

Never change, wrestling.

 

[Ludens the Red]

Orton just murders a man and pops the Legend Killer pose.

Never change, wrestling.

I’ve now rewound it searching for the bit the body was switched.

 

[Sylar]

Great logic WWE, take the MITB off Otis so The Miz can fail a cash in. Very good match all the same though

Glad he failed. Now he can stick with mid card programs

 

[Annihilate Now!]

That was a pretty great PPV. Lots of good to great matches before Reigns vs. Owens, which itself was absolutely fantastic.

Got to say, I got a huge kick out of the main event... I mean Inferno matches have always been someone's elbow gets set on fire for a second... but here, we got literal murder!

 

[paulscholes18]

Glad he failed. Now he can stick with mid card programs

I wouldn’t have minded The Miz successfully cashing in, if it meant Drew won the Rumble and went after Reigns.