SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

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A 108-year-old lady in Milan was vaccinated yesterday - she's already had Covid and recovered! She's probably the oldest person in the world to date to be vaccinated.
 

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A 108-year-old lady in Milan was vaccinated yesterday - she's already had Covid and recovered! She's probably the oldest person in the world to date to be vaccinated.
You'll probably find this useful. Running total of how many people have been vaccinated in Italy and how many of different vaccines have been delivered.

6k so far have had both doses. New administrations will be slowed a little so nobody misses the second dose.
 

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I see Patel has come out and said they should've closed the borders early last year. Not really unexpected coming from her but about the first time I've seen a cabinet minister admit a mistake.
 

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You'll probably find this useful. Running total of how many people have been vaccinated in Italy and how many of different vaccines have been delivered.

6k so far have had both doses. New administrations will be slowed a little so nobody misses the second dose.
Thanks! It's filtered down to our little village, as I mentioned the other day - all the care home staff and residents have been vaccinated. I was very pleased to see that the vaccine was getting to every small community.
 

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It's nightmarish in Portugal. Terrible negligence of the government in relation to Christmas and New Year.. We're close to topping the charts in deaths per million. Or actually top according to some sources.
 

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Some think that they will outright use them to insert chips into people while the vast majority think that they have not been tested enough and that at least 10-20 years need to pass in order to be really sure.

This has been discussed in this thread, @Sarni said that the situation in Poland is similar. Generally, there is a lot of vaccine resistance in the Eastern countries.
 

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Some think that they will outright use them to insert chips into people while the vast majority think that they have not been tested enough and that at least 10-20 years need to pass in order to be really sure.

This has been discussed in this thread, @Sarni said that the situation in Poland is similar. Generally, there is a lot of vaccine resistance in the Eastern countries.
Interesting. I guess you always think of the US and the UK when it comes to misinformation but not really to much about European countries, especially Eastern Europe. I find it baffling that enough people think there will be a chip in it for the line to be skipped all the way to 30 year olds. Do they not realise they already literally carry a chip with them everywhere they go? Let alone the hundreds of other reasons why that is nonsense.
 

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Interesting. I guess you always think of the US and the UK when it comes to misinformation but not really to much about European countries, especially Eastern Europe. I find it baffling that enough people think there will be a chip in it for the line to be skipped all the way to 30 year olds. Do they not realise they already literally carry a chip with them everywhere they go? Let alone the hundreds of other reasons why that is nonsense.
I am originally from Moldova and have several relatives and old friends on facebook. The amount of misinformation and fake news that is passed as 100% truth is mind boggling.
 

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Interesting. I guess you always think of the US and the UK when it comes to misinformation but not really to much about European countries, especially Eastern Europe. I find it baffling that enough people think there will be a chip in it for the line to be skipped all the way to 30 year olds. Do they not realise they already literally carry a chip with them everywhere they go? Let alone the hundreds of other reasons why that is nonsense.
The US and UK are actually less vaccine sceptical than nearly every European nation.

https://www.euronews.com/2020/12/09...-to-be-most-hesitant-about-a-covid-19-vaccine
 

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It's nightmarish in Portugal. Terrible negligence of the government in relation to Christmas and New Year.. We're close to topping the charts in deaths per million. Or actually top according to some sources.
What happened in the Autumn?
 

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Not great news coming out of Israel about delaying second dose of Pfizer vaccine.
Its pretty insane the amount of wasted vaccine. 1 vial of the Pfizer BNT162b2 RNA has 0.45 mL in it, we dilute it with 1.8 mL NaCl which is 2.25 mL together and 0.3 mL is given so if drawn up carefully thats theoretically 7.5 doses. After careful practice I've easily been getting 7 doses.

We are allowed to give the 6th dose with our "professional judgment" which we have done but I'm finding a lot of wastage still.

I think there's plenty of vaccine to go around to fulfil second dose commitments on time if we had some help from government to scale up primary care operations with some support. Consenting doesn't require you to be a brain surgeon and neither does giving the damn thing. I had a senior clinician on site who made the decision and was always available for the grey areas where contraindication to vaccination was possible but tricky to gauge (e.g. anaphylactoid sounding reaction but didn't need adrenaline). The red tape and paperwork is a bit insane and much, a lot of things to sign and do around it but its really not that difficult to find people who will be able to do this in a safe, competent way

Could easily scale up what primary care physicians are doing to 24 hours if supply can be sorted and a bit of support, high percentage of population turning up and making the effort to get the jab. I think demand will be there.

A few GPs kicked off majorly and have gone rogue against government guidelines to deliver the second jab but thats rare. There are a few legal challenges pending with regards to the retroactive changing of consent (for those who consented to vaccine predicted on receiving the second 21 days after as per manufacturer)

The data from Israel is worth considering for sure in terms of a shift in policy.
 

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The conspiracy nuts are saying we are back in 1940 and we will be forced to all wear the same clothes and wear gps bracelets soon.

Fecking snowflakes.
 

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What happened in the Autumn?
Autumn was expected I guess, reopening of schools, people slowly returning to half-normalcy as usual. It's the last two weeks increase that has been absolutely insane. People became overconfident in Christmas, government fed it too, by imposing restrictions in November precisely with the goal of not needing them so tight in Christmas, kind of like a "reward"

Absolutely insane decision, even if most people did nothing particularly unusual, the concentration of festivities in a week was bound to lead to disaster.
 
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As someone from Serbia, my parents cant wait their turn for a vacine, specially my mom, she had enough of isolation but maybe she is also tired of pain because her 2nd hip surgery being postponed due Covid etc.
 

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Autumn was expected I guess, reopening of schools, people slowly returning to half-normalcy as usual. It's tge last two weeks increase that has been absolutely insane. People became overconfident in Christmas, government kind of fed it too, by imposing restrictions in November precisely with the goal of not needing them so tight in Christmas, kind of like a "reward"

Absolutely insane decision, even if most people did nothing particularly unusual, the concentration of festivities in a week was bound to lead to disaster.
Precisely what happened in Ireland. With the UK variant super-charging our cluster-feck. From a handful of cases to 70% dominant in about three weeks. Are you screening for the variant? Might be a factor too?
 

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UK with another new record day:

38,905 new cases
1820 deaths

Really quite hard to overstate how badly the virus has been handled at this point.
 

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Badly handled...but nothing will happen to anyone.

Public generally too thick and mellow to do anything about it....as soon as the sun is shining, and people can go to the pub, or beach, all will be forgiven. They'll win the next election too...but anyway.
 

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Only a matter of time before we hit 100,000 death. Atrocious handling by the Government.
I can't believe there's been barely any calls for them to go. I just can't believe it, they're beyond a joke.
 

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Just got back from taking the old lady next door for her vaccine. What an emotional experience.

We went to the Derby Velodrome and there were hundreds of elderly people, some, like my neighbour were in wheelchairs, some with frames, and others just standing and queueing patiently.

The army of volunteers, helpers and NHS workers were so brilliant and i found the whole massive operation so humbling that I was feeling genuinely emotional. It was the most people I’ve been around for nearly a year and I couldn’t help but feel that all of their lives were facing similar challenges as the lady next door.

Whatever shambles our government has been and however many idiots there are out there, I couldn’t help but marvel at the size of this operation and feel like I was amongst the good people, the patient and the helpful. Really got to me and a lady pushing another wheelchair next to me was trying to talk to me and could see my lip wobbling.

It all restored my faith a little.
 

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Just got back from taking the old lady next door for her vaccine. What an emotional experience.

We went to the Derby Velodrome and there were hundreds of elderly people, some, like my neighbour were in wheelchairs, some with frames, and others just standing and queueing patiently.

The army of volunteers, helpers and NHS workers were so brilliant and i found the whole massive operation so humbling that I was feeling genuinely emotional. It was the most people I’ve been around for nearly a year and I couldn’t help but feel that all of their lives were facing similar challenges as the lady next door.

Whatever shambles our government has been and however many idiots there are out there, I couldn’t help but marvel at the size of this operation and feel like I was amongst the good people, the patient and the helpful. Really got to me and a lady pushing another wheelchair next to me was trying to talk to me and could see my lip wobbling.

It all restored my faith a little.
Thanks for sharing, feels good reading something positive for a change.
Nice to hear there’s lots of good people out there, yourself included for helping your neighbour.
 

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New strain in SA likely to be more resistant to vaccines :nervous: :nervous:


Virus gonna virus.

Not really groundbreaking news, yet obviously unfortunate.

Couple this with abject vaccine rollout abortions in many countries, we will have a tough time corralling the virus in coming months. Just in time for the populaces to start mingling outdoors which could help stop the spread some.
 

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Is there an estimate for how many people in the UK have had Covid? Not the official case number as mass testing started half way through.
 

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Precisely what happened in Ireland. With the UK variant super-charging our cluster-feck. From a handful of cases to 70% dominant in about three weeks. Are you screening for the variant? Might be a factor too?
Yes, estimated 30 thousand cases of it, becoming dominant fast.