Got to agree.Everyone saying we barely created anything for him did not watch the game. Martial was dreadful last night, not one bit of positive. Normally, if he doesnt score his all round game is good but there was none of that yesterday. He couldn't hold the ball up, couldn't pass, couldn't dribble, kept giving fouls away.
One of the worst CF displays of the season.
I kinda agree, and kind of not.We have other big problems besides him, replacing him with a top top striker would solve just part of our problems, but it won't solve our CDM issue, CB issue, and RW issue. We create feck all and that's partly due to our ST but not only because of it.
I agree, our players played poorly. Pogba, Bruno, Greenwood, Rashford all had really poor games but what differentiates is the work ethic.Got to agree.
I both watched the game and listened to the commentary on 5 Live. And Sinclair absolutely summed him up - he just doesn't look like he enjoys playing football.
No energy, no movement. It was a nothing performance.
Nevertheless, he was far from the only one. We were flat front start to finish apart from the last few minutes.
Just awful.
Martial is 25 years old now and, in regards to football, very experienced and he should be showing much more maturity and consistency as a player but he continues to perform as if he were years younger. Too often his attitude is very poor and he goes through matches seemingly sulking or uninterested. Yes there have been flashes of brilliance but of late these have become few are far between. I think its time Ole has to consider Martials future with United, not just where he plays but if he deserves to play at all. which, for some time now, he has not. I'd be sorry to see him leave but he wouldn't be the first player to fail to achieve his potential at United.Not a striker.
I think we either have to move Greenwood in the long term into the strikers position or sign a striker.
Ole played Martial last night hoping he would score a few to kickstart his season and he was woeful. Its blood Sheffield United as well. Christ on a bike.
Yep, and its the lack of effort over time that is tough to get past. Wish him luck and move on. I totally believe he will play a part and can help the 2 half, make him our euro league striker etc....Me too! Just every so often he pulls me back in.
Sell him. Sell De Gea.
Move on.
How can Greenwood not be going mental at Ole.
This is literally the stupidest opinion I've seen repeated on this place in the last year or so.Ighalo is a better CF than Martial and that explains everything.
This is actually a good point that addresses a specific weakness in Martial's game, as opposed to "he's always been average and Odion Ighalo is better because he scored against LASK Linz!!!!"I'm not talking about chances created or xG's, whatever the feck that is.
You make it sound like the forward's part in all of this is just putting the ball in the net, a simple tap-in.
Top forwards make their own chances, by themselves or by clever movement's, quick one, two's, etc.
They even score out of nothing.
Martial doesn't do that. Hell, this season he doesn't even do tap-ins anymore.
Cos his movement is shit.
He want's the ball in his feet, does a fancy dribble and flufs the shot.
You put Kane or Haaland in our team and we become elite team you speak of.
Why? Because a TOP forward does that.
No, it is the right thing to do in my opinion. But if you have already decided or have an inkling that a player isn't good enough, then this strategy hurts the team in the short term. That is what I meant by strange, the previous poster I felt implied that Ole already felt he was not good enough.I won’t say strange strategy. That just shows that the manager wants to believe in you, he probably understands how it feels as player so he gave Pereira & Lingard lot of chances until both have no excuses anymore and now is doing it to Martial. I remember Martial agent was making excuses. With this strategy, none of the player, the agent or even the Martial FC will have excuses to say that he’s been unfairly treated.
One thing you can say for certain is his lack of workrate would certainly not be accepted by Klopp/PepWe can't bench a player for more than one or two games, otherwise the playing ones risking a faitgue or injury. At some point getting Sancho previous summer was a good intention to have someone who can step up into both sides. We could sell him or perhaps politely 'punish' him by having reasonable depth to bench him for more than two games. Then again he's on 250k which this season looks a massive overkill.
All we need is one good summer, Grealish or Sancho (both ?) and at some point this could be end of Anthony Martial in Manchester United.
This is the unfortunate truth.He has comfortably been our worst player this season.
Oh that's for sure, I don't think even Brendan would be happy with all hard fought contribution Barnes and Vardy having right now in Leicester.One thing you can say for certain is his lack of workrate would certainly not be accepted by Klopp/Pep
The more I watch Martial against Sheff Utd the more Im inclined to agree with you. Maybe Martial will fulfill his potential at another club but I fear he's reached his peak and from here on the only way for him is down.I agree, our players played poorly. Pogba, Bruno, Greenwood, Rashford all had really poor games but what differentiates is the work ethic.
How can a ST who doesn't score goals get 2 chances on goal in 15 seconds from standing in the same place? Burke did not move.
In the same way... Martial did not move..he was stood at the edge of the box, hands behind his back. He made no movements up top, didn't look like he wanted to play.
When a player looks like he is not interested, always sulking at his team mates, its time to get rid.
Unfortunately, I think I am done discussing Martial every season, every season he is a let down. If we are ever to be successful again, we have to be ruthless and Martial does not make the cut. If we want to be a nice club and hope for his talents to become reality, then keep him.
I wouldn't mind if its a one off but when was the last time Martial had a really good game or made a difference? Probably last season.The more I watch Martial against Sheff Utd the more Im inclined to agree with you. Maybe Martial will fulfill his potential at another club but I fear he's reached his peak and from here on the only way for him is down.
Yeah not forgetting Carlo/Jose who also would soon have him on the bench until he pulled his socks upOh that's for sure, I don't think even Brendan would be happy with all hard fought contribution Barnes and Vardy having right now in Leicester.
To be honest, Jose must be absolutely grinning right now, seeing Martial's shit fest.Yeah not forgetting Carlo/Jose who also would soon have him on the bench until he pulled his socks up
Yeah was the right decision to sack him but he has every right to say I told you so about TonyTo be honest, Jose must be absolutely grinning right now, seeing Martial's shit fest.
Yeah that's your opinion. Martial isn't a CF. A better player? sure but not a better CF.This is literally the stupidest opinion I've seen repeated on this place in the last year or so.
Yeah he clearly isn't a CF and needs to step aside for EddyYeah that's your opinion. Martial isn't a CF. A better player? sure but not a better CF.
I would sell Tony and get Grealish/Sancho for the LWMartial is not a CF, agreed. Neither are Rashy or Mason, unfortunately. Cavani can not start every game. So we either change our tactics and play without a pure CF or we need to buy a new Ibra or Drogba. If we have enough money, Haaland is the one we need to go all out for. Thus, Rashy/Tony on the left, Mason/Amad (one can dream) on the right, Haaland/Cavani up top.
Stop defending him? Martial sulk for a season when someone took his shirt number. How long do you think he will drown if Ole criticise him publicly?His performances have been an insult to the number 9 shirt, he's not fit to lace the boots of even some of our low profile number 9's like Berba Saha and Choccy.
You can forgive someone for an off game but this guy isnt even trying.
For me OLE needs to act quick and stop defending him.
I feel like the club is pinning their hopes on Mason cementing the striker role, and will continue to make do/buy short term replacements on the cheap until he manages it.Martial is not a CF, agreed. Neither are Rashy or Mason, unfortunately. Cavani can not start every game. So we either change our tactics and play without a pure CF or we need to buy a new Ibra or Drogba. If we have enough money, Haaland is the one we need to go all out for. Thus, Rashy/Tony on the left, Mason/Amad (one can dream) on the right, Haaland/Cavani up top.
Who'd want him for that price.? No club I can think of.Having a dreadful season, not just in front of goal. Should really be a squad player but something tells me he won’t like that and will end up sulking anyway. He’s 25 now, maybe it’s time to cash in while we can.
How much could he fetch in this market? 40-50m?
Yeah you would have to be not playing with a full deck to consider spending that on him right nowWho'd want him for that price.? No club I can think of.
Any idea when this might become a realityThe future is going to be a newly signed number 9 and newly signed right winger. Rashford probably first choice on the left. Greenwood deputising across all 3 forward positions and Martial sold.
We could probably trick someone like Everton into taking him. They spent 50m on Gylfi Sigurdsson ffs.Who'd want him for that price.? No club I can think of.
Your opinion is even worse than Martial's season so far.Yeah that's your opinion. Martial isn't a CF. A better player? sure but not a better CF.
Have you been on a sesh?Modern footballer wages gets head for free attitude and won't make runs. But when you look at Ole's sulkers get kuntified what for 40 million?
French players creche the Buffon despite having the highest rate of shttheirpants in the globe. So get rid. The other option is to other option the other option.
I told me mam I said play Rashford under the bench Matic to massage the just in front of the back for ever. Fact. He's costing us points like Utd issue statement on Rachel abuse
and she absolutely loves it won't change until we sign a decent director of balls. Pallister never went clubbing but we expect Anton de la fey to bring liqorice to a weed fest.
Have a word with yourself doctor? doctor? I'm still fuming at the officials sweet sweet tights but sheer bias in Carragher's flem.
It's like Barthez when he scot got free off Mar she Al makes Bebe look like Our Defence Has It Actually Been sweet sweet tights.
