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Evra joined United when he was 25, and had a pretty horrific 6 months. Shaw is currently 25...Think Shaw has some way to go yet. Evra was much quicker than Shaw, a better dribbler, arguably even better at bringing the ball out from defense, better one on one defensiveley (Shaw lets too many crosses into the box), and Evra was better in the air, as well as a stronger leader.
Continue like this, and he may get there. Evra was arguably the best lb in the world at one point.
Not disagreeing. But saying that Shaw is currently better or as good as peak Evra is a bit of a stretch.Evra joined United when he was 25, and had a pretty horrific 6 months. Shaw is currently 25...
You are comparing the second half of Evra’s career with the first half of Shaw’s.
loved Evra, and Shaw has a chance to get to those levels - I still think it will be fitness that holds him back. But Telles is helping massively in that regard.
i agree with you there. He’s in great form, but needs to keep it up for a sustained period, which has always been a challenge for him (mainly due to fitness).Not disagreeing. But saying that Shaw is currently better or as good as peak Evra is a bit of a stretch.
Yep. Love watching him play now, so long may it continue. His first touch really is sublime.i agree with you there. He’s in great form, but needs to keep it up for a sustained period, which has always been a challenge for him (mainly due to fitness).
Nar, Evra was an absolute lethal weapon for us in the final 3rd when we needed a goal, so good at finding space and opening it up, we've missed that so much since the very day he left.Evra had better leadership (though it's something he grew into over the years, and I feel the same is happening now with Shaw, who leads by example and the team knows they can trust him to receive any ball they pass him and retain possession and build attacks). Evra also had more flair on the ball, but I feel Luke is a far more effective ball carrier with his power, pace, and uncanny ability to use his first touch to propel a surging run forward into space.
There's not really any 'arguably' about it. He was the best in the world for three seasons or so.Think Shaw has some way to go yet. Evra was much quicker than Shaw, a better dribbler, arguably even better at bringing the ball out from defense, better one on one defensiveley (Shaw lets too many crosses into the box), and Evra was better in the air, as well as a stronger leader.
Continue like this, and he may get there. Evra was arguably the best lb in the world at one point.
If he adds this to his game, that would be great. He had a great strike vs Everton too (think at 2-0).Would have loved to have seen him get on the score sheet.
Yet we have a manager and staff and cannot coach players according to many here..It's funny how in a matter of weeks we've gone from severely lacking creativity from the wings, to AWB and Shaw providing goals, assists and general attacking intent that we haven't seen for so long.
Shaw has been superb since even last season for me, but in the last few months he has gone up another level and it's great to see.
Not for me. There's some weird selective memories people have with Evra (and I suppose a lot of club legends). He was actually extremely defensively suspect in his last 2-3 years with us. Going forward he was amazing, don't get me wrong, but he was frequently caught wildly out of position during Fergie's last two seasons and was at fault for a lot of goals. There were a lot of calls to replace him (or at least phase him out) as early as 2012. He did well at Juventus because he was a wing-back there, and had less defensive responsibility.Evra was let go too early. Also we completely misdiagnosed a stomach condition he had during his last season, which juventus nailed and meant he didnt really drop off in performances for a few more seasons.
Still better than Shaw, but Shaw has time. A interesting question would be Irwin or Evra? Thats a tough call for another thread.
Which chance are you referring to? I've already forgot!One of the few positive notes from today.
He was unlucky not to get a 2nd assist.
Maguire hit the post in the 95th minute from a Shaw CrossWhich chance are you referring to? I've already forgot!
Oh... I was watching whilst having my head in my hands at that point so I didn't even realise that it was Shaw who played the cross!Maguire hit the post in the 95th minute from a Shaw Cross
The one near the end for MaguireWhich chance are you referring to? I've already forgot!
He also played a very good ball in the 1st half to Cavani who expectedly mishit it.The one near the end for Maguire
Shaw's been better than Bruno I'd say. Bruno has great stats but his performances have often been utter tripe.We need two POTY award this season. It's unfair to the other if only Shaw OR Bruno gets it.
Lately, yes.Shaw's been better than Bruno I'd say. Bruno has great stats but his performances have often been utter tripe.
I think it's been a bit of a theme this season in general really. So, so wasteful but also insanely productive, weird player. Either way, if Shaw keeps doing what he's doing then there's no way he doesn't win our POTS.Lately, yes.
Problem is, Shaw can't play every match. Also Bruno has to play every match because none on the bench is as good as him.I think it's been a bit of a theme this season in general really. So, so wasteful but also insanely productive, weird player. Either way, if Shaw keeps doing what he's doing then there's no way he doesn't win our POTS.
Feels like he has played every match except the cup game recentlyProblem is, Shaw can't play every match.
