Fred is one of the most underrated players in England

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I like Fred, but one assist doesn't suddenly make him a great passer mate. He's certainly limited in that area.
He should have had several more. I recall one ball ealry int eh season with his left, over the top dink into space for Rashford to beat the keeper..he shot straight at him.

Fred is a very good passer - the few times he may pass a ball straight out of play is because he's passing into space (which progresses play) and the target hasn't read the ball and is stood still (which doesn't move us forward). Happens to Bruno plenty too. What Fred isn't is a great shooter - it's his one big flaw he needs to stay back in training to work on. Not free kicks (he has been ok whenever he takes dead balls for us up to Bruno;s arrival), just shooting.

Fred's never going to be Carrick levels in passing, but the same can be said of 95% of PL midfielders.
 

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I would describe Fred's passing as erratic. Occasionally as on Thursday it's bloody perfect. Earlier that same match he misplaced two 10 yard passes to Scott, under no pressure.

He's just wildly inconsistent in his passing, which isn't great for a central player.

He makes up for a lot of it through sheer energy and determination, which is great.
 

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Fred's ability to receive the ball and pass it on regularly and reliably to better players is absolutely shocking. It's lower half of the Premiership stuff and, once again, when he's playing in a game where he isn't needed to just run around a lot he looks like an unbelievably limited player.
 

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@GifLord please post a gif of the pass he made around the 58 minute mark, where he just kicks it out of play under no pressure.
 

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Could someone make a video of Fred's contributions this match?
 

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Fred's ability to receive the ball and pass it on regularly and reliably to better players is absolutely shocking. It's lower half of the Premiership stuff and, once again, when he's playing in a game where he isn't needed to just run around a lot he looks like an unbelievably limited player.
It’s not a consistent flaw. When he’s playing well his passing is fine. Good even. When he has a bad game it falls apart completely. The canary in the coal mine for his confidence.
 

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His form has been dropping for about 2 months now, and it's been particularly noticeable the last few games. Worst possible time really since we now have Pogba, VDB and McTominay all out, although the latter two should hopefully be back any game now.

He and Matic were often getting in each others way in this one though. They seemed to sort it out later on in the match, but it happened quite a bit in the first half and beginning of the second.
 

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Really not sure what your issue here is? It wasn't me asked for it btw

He was awful today, we won, have a laugh at it and move on because he isn't usually this bad
Oh yeah it's all laughs in the place.
 

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I can only assume he thought James was going to be bombing down the line.

Otherwise it’s an unbelievably bad pass.
 

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It’s not a consistent flaw. When he’s playing well his passing is fine. Good even. When he has a bad game it falls apart completely. The canary in the coal mine for his confidence.
I think it's just over ambitious. He's not got the the technique to pull off the passes he regularly attempts and although he CAN do it (the goal against Sociedad for example) it’s at the cost of games where he sprays it out of play to nobody.
 

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They didn't even have the same responsibilities.
Their responsibilities were to help shield the defence and give the attacking 4 and fbs a good platform to build off in attack. Matic was better at executing everything they were in there to do and even offered more with his great work for James' goal.