Man City 2020/21 - General discussion

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Some players are born to play for their national teams, such as Klose for Germany and Ochoa for Mexico (I hope to see Ochoa again in the 2022 World Cup, he was amazing in the 2014 and 2018 World Cups, but otherwise it's like he doesn't exist, we like to joke that he spends all his time between Worlds Cup in militar football training at Himalaya, only preparing for the next World Cup!).

Fernandinho is not such a player. He is amazing for City. But in the 2014 World Cup, he was terrible against Germany and lazily gave away a goal. I thought that he might redeem himself in the 2018 World Cup because I heard he was being truly amazing in City. And, to be fair, everyone was terrible against Germany in 2014. I was willing to give him a second chance, unlike many other brazilians. And then he had a disaster-class against Belgium in the quarter-finals. After that, I thought: "Fernandinho, you truly are only a clubs' player, I don't want to ever see you with the brazilian shirt again no matter how well you play at the clubs, I don't care!"
 

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Playing a different sport these days due to the ease of getting through what for most clubs is a hectic season of fatigue.

Champions league away knockout tie followed by early kick off against in form team is a classic tough one. But not for city who went away and brought in

Laporte, hernandez, Foden, sterling, Silva, Jesus

Then replaced them Saturday with

Stones, fernandinho, de Bruyne, Mahrez, Aguero, torres

They literally do not have to suffer fatigue as a season goes on. Its all routine and pointless
 

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Playing a different sport these days due to the ease of getting through what for most clubs is a hectic season of fatigue.

Champions league away knockout tie followed by early kick off against in form team is a classic tough one. But not for city who went away and brought in

Laporte, hernandez, Foden, sterling, Silva, Jesus

Then replaced them Saturday with

Stones, fernandinho, de Bruyne, Mahrez, Aguero, torres

They literally do not have to suffer fatigue as a season goes on. Its all routine and pointless
Yeah the squad depth is ridiculous and allows them to compete for four trophies with such ease
 

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Mcmanamans hilarious on commentary. Saying City will patch themselves up for Tuesday and go again. Patching yourself up is bringing six £50m players who didn't start today back into the team?
 

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Yeah the squad depth is ridiculous and allows them to compete for four trophies with such ease
Well the league Cup isn't even a competition anymore. They have single handedly nullified the competitiveness of one of English footballs domestic cups.
 

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Mcmanamans hilarious on commentary. Saying City will patch themselves up for Tuesday and go again. Patching yourself up is bringing six £50m players who didn't start today back into the team?
£350m bench today
 

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How the feck have City turned this round.
When they lost at home to Leicester 5-2, it was going to take 200m to rebuild and Pep was under pressure.

Now they are on the verge of the quadruple and a striker away from domanating English football for the next few seasons. Crazy!
 

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How the feck have City turned this round.
When they lost at home to Leicester 5-2, it was going to take 200m to rebuild and Pep was under pressure.

Now they are on the verge of the quadruple and a striker away from domanating English football for the next few seasons. Crazy!
We were never as bad as many made out in reality, just a little goal shy.

There will be no quadruple and no domination for the next few seasons either. The quad pretty much requires perfection and right now I'd snap your hand off to sew up and the league and win the league Cup nevermind the other two.

With regards to domination.
Chelsea under Conte win 13 league games in a row people said they were gonna dominate, they implode.
City under Pep get 198 pts in 2 seasons, people say gonna domiante, get pounded by Liverpool.
Just back in October people said the same Liverpool were gonna dominate for 5 years and boot Pep outta the league a failure.

It was always likely we'd pull away this season because we have essentially 2 teams.
2 players for every position so we can rotate and really not drop too much of a level. While there is no replacement for KDB, Bernardo is pretty good to have. No other team bar maybe PSG can afford to rotate like we do..
Options for the front 3: Marhez, Foden, Sterling, Jesus, Aguero, Bernardo and Torres.
Option for midfeild 3 : Rodri, Fernandinho, Gundo, KDB, Bernardo, Foden and Doyle.
We've probably got 3 of the 5 best CB's in the league in Dias, Stones and Laporte with a constantly injured Ake to come back and Eric Garcia who is a 20 year old Spain international as 5th choice. We've got Cancelo and Walker at RB, Zinchenko, Mendy, Ake and Laporte who can all play LB. Steffen is even a very capable keeper as no.2 to Ederson.
 

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We were never as bad as many made out in reality, just a little goal shy.

There will be no quadruple and no domination for the next few seasons either. The quad pretty much requires perfection and right now I'd snap your hand off to sew up and the league and win the league Cup nevermind the other two.

With regards to domination.
Chelsea under Conte win 13 league games in a row people said they were gonna dominate, they implode.
City under Pep get 198 pts in 2 seasons, people say gonna domiante, get pounded by Liverpool.
Just back in October people said the same Liverpool were gonna dominate for 5 years and boot Pep outta the league a failure.

It was always likely we'd pull away this season because we have essentially 2 teams.
2 players for every position so we can rotate and really not drop too much of a level. While there is no replacement for KDB, Bernardo is pretty good to have. No other team bar maybe PSG can afford to rotate like we do..
Options for the front 3: Marhez, Foden, Sterling, Jesus, Aguero, Bernardo and Torres.
Option for midfeild 3 : Rodri, Fernandinho, Gundo, KDB, Bernardo, Foden and Doyle.
We've probably got 3 of the 5 best CB's in the league in Dias, Stones and Laporte with a constantly injured Ake to come back and Eric Garcia who is a 20 year old Spain international as 5th choice. We've got Cancelo and Walker at RB, Zinchenko, Mendy, Ake and Laporte who can all play LB. Steffen is even a very capable keeper as no.2 to Ederson.
I think a domestic treble like Bayern every year is inevitable in the long run. City have essentially infinite money and you will have even better two teams that you mention.

The only competition you will have from now in the CL is PSG (bankrolled by a state) and Bayern (realistically only top team in their league and can have almost any player in that league). Barcelona, Real and the Italian teams have too many financial problems. This doesn't mean a few upsets here and there cannot happen but they will be few and far between.

It is great for City fans but this is the first time the rest of the league is essentially just filling places with no hope of silverware.
 

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City posted £535.2m revenue in 2018/19. Like it or not, we bring in money.
It's your owner & extended family that puts a vast chunk of this revenue in. If i draw my wages out of the bank & then put them back in i have not been paid twice. Your owner puts his own money into the club then declares that you've made a profit.
 

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We were never as bad as many made out in reality, just a little goal shy.

There will be no quadruple and no domination for the next few seasons either. The quad pretty much requires perfection and right now I'd snap your hand off to sew up and the league and win the league Cup nevermind the other two.

With regards to domination.
Chelsea under Conte win 13 league games in a row people said they were gonna dominate, they implode.
City under Pep get 198 pts in 2 seasons, people say gonna domiante, get pounded by Liverpool.
Just back in October people said the same Liverpool were gonna dominate for 5 years and boot Pep outta the league a failure.

It was always likely we'd pull away this season because we have essentially 2 teams.
2 players for every position so we can rotate and really not drop too much of a level. While there is no replacement for KDB, Bernardo is pretty good to have. No other team bar maybe PSG can afford to rotate like we do..
Options for the front 3: Marhez, Foden, Sterling, Jesus, Aguero, Bernardo and Torres.
Option for midfeild 3 : Rodri, Fernandinho, Gundo, KDB, Bernardo, Foden and Doyle.
We've probably got 3 of the 5 best CB's in the league in Dias, Stones and Laporte with a constantly injured Ake to come back and Eric Garcia who is a 20 year old Spain international as 5th choice. We've got Cancelo and Walker at RB, Zinchenko, Mendy, Ake and Laporte who can all play LB. Steffen is even a very capable keeper as no.2 to Ederson.
That’s a very impressive squad you have assembled and the combination with having the best/2nd best manager in the world makes it unbeatable at the moment, at least in England.
But things change quickly in football, not sure we can challenge you anytime soon, especially if we replicate last season’s transfer window again.
However Roman is not going to do nothing. Another 250 mil summer window for Chelsea is incoming and then it will probably mainly be between City and Chelsea next season.
 

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I think a domestic treble like Bayern every year is inevitable in the long run. City have essentially infinite money and you will have even better two teams that you mention.

The only competition you will have from now in the CL is PSG (bankrolled by a state) and Bayern (realistically only top team in their league and can have almost any player in that league). Barcelona, Real and the Italian teams have too many financial problems. This doesn't mean a few upsets here and there cannot happen but they few and far between.

It is great for City fans but this is the first time the rest of the league is essentially just filling places with no hope of silverware.
Yeah sadly you have absolutely nailed it
 

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We were never as bad as many made out in reality, just a little goal shy.

There will be no quadruple and no domination for the next few seasons either. The quad pretty much requires perfection and right now I'd snap your hand off to sew up and the league and win the league Cup nevermind the other two.

With regards to domination.
Chelsea under Conte win 13 league games in a row people said they were gonna dominate, they implode.
City under Pep get 198 pts in 2 seasons, people say gonna domiante, get pounded by Liverpool.
Just back in October people said the same Liverpool were gonna dominate for 5 years and boot Pep outta the league a failure.

It was always likely we'd pull away this season because we have essentially 2 teams.
2 players for every position so we can rotate and really not drop too much of a level. While there is no replacement for KDB, Bernardo is pretty good to have. No other team bar maybe PSG can afford to rotate like we do..
Options for the front 3: Marhez, Foden, Sterling, Jesus, Aguero, Bernardo and Torres.
Option for midfeild 3 : Rodri, Fernandinho, Gundo, KDB, Bernardo, Foden and Doyle.
We've probably got 3 of the 5 best CB's in the league in Dias, Stones and Laporte with a constantly injured Ake to come back and Eric Garcia who is a 20 year old Spain international as 5th choice. We've got Cancelo and Walker at RB, Zinchenko, Mendy, Ake and Laporte who can all play LB. Steffen is even a very capable keeper as no.2 to Ederson.
Yeah thanks for making them rest of us feel even worse about ever catching a team bought by blood money
 

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He is excellent manager but the most annoying one for sure. He is somehow offended now by that claims? After spending over 800 mil euros in 5 years there. He is pathetic
I liked what Pep did. Like looking into his critics straight in the eye and saying "I don't care".
 

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Yeah thanks for making them rest of us feel even worse about ever catching a team bought by blood money
This in envy, pure and simple. I bet that no one here would care about such if United was bought by a sheik. Also, there are a lot of ways in football history to be corrupt in football and make a club "artifically grow", that's how many big clubs even became big clubs to begin with (Real Madrid and Franco in the 50s), before the modern financial gap between top clubs and mid-tier ones became too big to bridge without doing a City route. Just look at what happened to Ajax after 2019.
 

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This in envy, pure and simple. I bet that no one here would care about such if United was bought by a sheik. Also, there are a lot of ways in football history to be corrupt in football and make a club "artifically grow", that's how many big clubs even became big clubs to begin with (Real Madrid and Franco in the 50s), before the modern financial gap between top clubs and mid-tier ones became too big to bridge without doing a City route. Just look at what happened to Ajax after 2019.
You know what I would care about being owned by a dodgy sheikh so don't you tell me what I think either, think there would be many Utd supporters who would consider walking away from the game because unlike City we have morals
 

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This in envy, pure and simple. I bet that no one here would care about such if United was bought by a sheik. Also, there are a lot of ways in football history to be corrupt in football and make a club "artifically grow", that's how many big clubs even became big clubs to begin with (Real Madrid and Franco in the 50s), before the modern financial gap between top clubs and mid-tier ones became too big to bridge without doing a City route. Just look at what happened to Ajax after 2019.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/saudi-takeover-claim-deal-done.451585/
 

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They have won 20 games in a row, so that is some sort of record in PL?
 

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I sometimes think the argument of "buying success" not a proper club because they're heavily backed, is more out of bitterness and jealousy, than anything else
 

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Our record of 15 goals conceded in a season remains intact!

I think that record, along with unbeaten at home for 4 years, will likely not be trumped for a long long time
 

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You read a lot of stupid shit on a football forum, I write a lot of stupid shit too, but this season it’s been a lot about the so-called fraud at Man City and that this season nobody was going to run away with it.... certainly we won’t see 90+ points from the winner, even West Ham/Villa/Everton can take it. Fast forward a couple of months and they are way ahead, playing the best football in the league/world and on course for 90+ points. It’s impressive, a few people with eggs on their faces, incl. our current manager who made some embarrassing comments earlier in the season.
 

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I sometimes think the argument of "buying success" not a proper club because they're heavily backed, is more out of bitterness and jealousy, than anything else
Well you are also backed in the same way so can understand your defence of how City operate, at least us & the scousers actually have to be careful in this COVID market but for you two the rules just don't apply due to your ownership
 

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I sometimes think the argument of "buying success" not a proper club because they're heavily backed, is more out of bitterness and jealousy, than anything else
Leave us alone. Makes it easier for us to cope.
In all seriousness, of course it is out of bitterness. I have forgotten how it feels to win the league. I admire how City have run the club but I am ravaged with jealousy and very sad they always look so much better than we do. A lot of times they it looks like they play a different sport. I watch my team, I am scratching my head cause a kot of tikes we are unwatchable. Them turn over and hear commentators purring over City. It's disgusting.
 

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I liked what Pep did. Like looking into his critics straight in the eye and saying "I don't care".
But he didn't do that, isn't he? That is what is so annoying. If he did that i would not mind. In fact, i would respect that.

But he thinks that it is not because of money. (of course is not ONLY because of money, to be clear). For example, he once said that he never bought a player for 100 mil like we did. (But at the same time he has 7 players on the bench worth 50-60 mil each). He is not aware how stupid he sounds.