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Rashford - Playing through injury (again)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Hand on heart, I've never seen you post anything other than garbage.
Definitely - I'm injured at the moment and all I want to do is go back to lifting weights, but I have to do my physio instead.
Hargreaves said it was too painful to watch football while he was injured. I can understand Rashford's desire to keep going, but he should put his entire career ahead of his current desire to play, what he's currently doing is unfortunately very stupid and potentially career ending.
That's interesting, so his back problem along with his most recent shoulder injuries were first called out by the same journalist.
I'd imagine on both occasions were during a time when Rashford was playing poorly, I wouldn't be surprised that the information actually comes from the player directly due to the timing of it.
We have a lot of "special" talents in our fanbase.
‘Nowhere near their starting elevens’ is definitely a stretch given Barcelona are regularly starting Dembele and PSG are regularly starting Kean.
Injuries, what's new. This is exactly why interest in Sancho, Grealish or even Coman made loads of sense last summer.
We're just too f*ckin slow on the market and in upcoming summer we'll probably be choosing between addressing right side or fixing the defense and btw, we can forget about solid CDM unless there's a bargain bin occasion which with our luck will be delayed by 6 months at least.
Terrible news before final stage of the season, especially with Martial in his current mood of not giving a toss. We'll need Greenwood and Cavani to stay fit till May.
We're just too f*ckin slow on the market and in upcoming summer we'll probably be choosing between addressing right side or fixing the defense and btw, we can forget about solid CDM unless there's a bargain bin occasion which with our luck will be delayed by 6 months at least.
Terrible news before final stage of the season, especially with Martial in his current mood of not giving a toss. We'll need Greenwood and Cavani to stay fit till May.
I don't think it's that sort of injury. He isn't going to get any benefit from resting one or two games. This is clearly an injury that needs surgery and is just going to be niggling until it does. They'll be making sure it isn't flaring up.
What is the point- on current form he shouldnt be starting anyway, safer getting it sorted and being 100%
Of course it did. Hence lines like 'his teammates are in awe at his bravery', and Winter's fawning initial tweet. It's not like Winter gets exclusives. Other than the briefs he's had from a few England players, he's almost solely a feature writer.
As said further up in the thread, he was the journalist given a very similar exclusive last season.
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He broke the news about Rashford's doctorate, and writes almost bi-monthly glowing features about him. He's clearly a trusted journalist for Rashford and his team.
There was also a post from one of the only actual proven 'insiders' last Thursday, saying Rashford's brother had been talking to journalists.
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I wont disagree with you, but for me I think there are a lot of instances where you just have to trust the club. They have access to data that we supporters can only dream of when it comes to assessing players, so while on the face of it I also found it unnecessary to play Rashford and Bruno against Sociedad, I have to assume that they felt keeping them match active was more beneficial than a rest would have been.
Same with Amad. I would have loved to see him start that game, but perhaps he just isn't physically ready to play 90 minutes at that level. We have to trust the club
Glad I’m not the only one. Utter nonsense guaranteed with him.
I'm with you both.
Interesting.
Him and his PR team have certainly done a great job judging by the reactions in this place alone when the news broke out, people kept going on about his back injury for months last year and unfortunately we will be seeing this shoulder injury for the coming months every time he has a bad game.
Is there any player in our team that you actually like?
Double standards - Lindelof injured back and Rashford injured shoulder. Both play through their injuries, but one gets the benefit of the doubt for poor performances. At the end of the day, all players carry injuries and play hurt.
Players and managers will always say, injuries aren't an excuse, but they are there to be managed. Marcus doesn't throw himself about and run himself into the ground for 90 minutes similar to Dan James. Marcus allows himself to have his moments of runs, defensive engagements, and the like. So when those opportunities come and he does feck all like he did against Palace, who is accountable for that knowing what you can do and can't do.
He's getting paid a ton of money to be a professional footballer who is wearing the #10 for Manchester United. He's clearly training everyday and getting treatment to be ready for match days. So as long as he's doing this, he deserves praise and criticism for his performances without first considering his injury.
Players and managers will always say, injuries aren't an excuse, but they are there to be managed. Marcus doesn't throw himself about and run himself into the ground for 90 minutes similar to Dan James. Marcus allows himself to have his moments of runs, defensive engagements, and the like. So when those opportunities come and he does feck all like he did against Palace, who is accountable for that knowing what you can do and can't do.
He's getting paid a ton of money to be a professional footballer who is wearing the #10 for Manchester United. He's clearly training everyday and getting treatment to be ready for match days. So as long as he's doing this, he deserves praise and criticism for his performances without first considering his injury.
Ffs, if the boys Injured and needs an OP, just let him go and get it, if hes out for a few weeks, then just cope without him. I'd put him in now for the op if hes struggling.
How many people do you know personally from outside the UK and how often do you speak to them about Rashford?
You are wrong mate. I am from France and every pundit as every mate I speak about that rate him very highly.
If you were a PSG fan, as my mate you will be frustrated by Mbappé too. I know they are ! But you don't follow him as close as they do and they don't follow Rashford as close as you do.
All I can say is that Rashford is one of our best player and the only game changer we have along Bruno. We won't find a better player to replace him just like that. We have two other positions in attack with much greater need ! Just look at stats, all our attacking is coming from Rashford's side.
I am sure that he will be even better under Fergie as he was the master at developing young talent.
Yes, he is. A poster confirmed for Spain / Spanish football TV and I can do the same for Latin America / USA football TV. Likewise, I spend a lot of time in Germany/Austria/Switzerland and their commentators are always raving about Rashford.
You're just projecting your personal opinion onto everybody else in the world.
EDIT: French poster too.
This is 100% true. Nobody in Sweden talks about Rashford as someone special, he is so overrated in UK!
Actually he is not a world class player of the top players. But he is a top player in our team now especially because Martial has decided to go on strike. Yes the English pundits promote him too. Then his off field activity gives him a higher profile. If he is injured Ole should not be playing him.
According news his brother has been to Carrington and creating a scene because he is being slated online for his terrible playing.
According news his brother has been to Carrington and creating a scene because he is being slated online for his terrible playing.
Don't really see the point of him playing rest of the season, make things worse and then make it worser with the Euros.
For the money we spend it’s pretty ridiculous that we’re in a situation where we “can’t” deal with an injury to him.
Elite management to run a key player into the ground twice because your game plan relies on him finding a way to score.
This will surely have no consequences on Rashford's performances at the Euro and beyond..
This will surely have no consequences on Rashford's performances at the Euro and beyond..
Yeah, that was cnutish from Barnes looked quite deliberate.
Part of the reason why Gullit couldn't play at the top level much longer because he played in the Cup Final for Milan after taking many injections. He said that it affected his career. Players should never play thru major injuries. It's not as if this was a Cup Final.
I thought it was fairly obvious he’s been playing hurt for a long time. No real excuse for the shit show on Wednesday mind you.
But apparently the Swedes don’t like him, at least one
I'm sure you speak for the country. In any case, he's a top player in the making and this is Ole's worst managerial shortcoming, being absolutely reckless with managing players' fitness and injuries. I thought he'd learn the lesson last season with Scott, Pogba, Maguire and Rashford, but he hasn't.
So the only option is to play an injured player until he is properly injured, possibly affecting the rest of his career? Not only is that short sighted and foolish, it is also unethical.
Another weird thing in this thread is people saying that the management and club doctors can only go off what Rashford tells them. They will be assessing players fitness all the time, and it doesn't take a genius doctor to figure out when someone is carrying an injury.... particularly when the medical team are strapping it up.
Won't stop the disgusting agenda that our own fans have against Marcus.
is shoulder injury responsible for Rashford repeatedly trying to beat his man and losing the ball, when there's an open player available for him to pass to?
He's terrible for this, and I highly doubt Rashford will be happy with playing through 2 major injuries in 2 years under Ole, while trying to carry the majority of the attacking threat.
I hope Rashford just does what Pogba did and gets whatever treatment he needs regardless, otherwise who knows how his career could be impacted by this recklessness.
Exactly. And the apparent shoulder injury is believed to be briefed by Rashford and his PR team, the same journalist who first reported Rashford's back injury last year when he wasn't playing well.
People are citing this report as a way to give Rashford more excuses and lashes at Ole conveniently.
It's almost laughable when people discussing particular situation in a game where he was 'hurt' from a slight pull of arm as a way to determine the seriousness of his apparent injury, but ignoring the fact that challenges and reactions from players happen all the time to gain advantage on the field.
We might as well say all players are injured if we go by the players reaction every time when a tackle is made.
maybe because most fans are immature jerks who moan at every little thing? A manager can barely move without being talked crap ab. Unfortunately, everyone picks up knocks and some play and some cant but its nothing new. we drop rashford and our seasons down the swanny. So its not simple as it should be. Not when your second and have people out there thinking you should be sacked etc...
Yeah Vardy did something similar for Leicester recently and Marcus needs to be doing what's best for his long term career rather than thinking about the here and now
Ole started him in the second leg to Sociedad right?
No he came on as a sub. Quite unnecessarily, too.
I'm sorry but if he's playing with an injury because otherwise fans will be more critical of the manager than that's ridiculous decision making, the priority has to be protect the player over what people on a forum think. I would imagine it's a lot more likely that United think it's not aggravating the injury more to have him playing (even if it certainly impacts his performances he's better at 80% than any other option in that position) and he wants to keep playing to help the team this season and, let's be realistic, to play in the Euros in the summer. They tried to keep playing him last year with an injury but eventually they decided they had to sort it out, I would sincerely hope that if that decision had to be made again then the opinions of fans about the overall performance of the team would have zero influence.
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