No.1 for next season - De Gea or Henderson?

[Rolaholic]

100% believe he's the best keeper at the club

He's so much more commanding and assertive in the box, more comfortable with the ball at his feet and his distribution is levels above DDG's who would never contribute to a goal like the 2nd today

I actually have confidence in him between the sticks even if the event we have defensive errors, can't say the same for Dave the last 2-3 seasons quite honestly

 

[Member 101269]

Agree with all of this. We are more assured with him I feel. Better command of his box and decent kicking.

Saw rumours of PSG interest in De Gea today, doubt its true but we should be looking to move him on at this point if it were true given he is the highest paid player in the league but not performing at that level any longer.

DDG spending time with his IH and baby will make to consider home more. He’ll watch Dean and know it’s time. He’ll go at the end of the season

 

[RashyForPM]

I remember 3 months ago some horrific criticism on here for Hendo purely based on short sighted results and outcomes.

I remember thinking it was naive criticism at the time and I stand by it now

Same here. People forget that he still had enough balls to pick himself up and make a flying save right at the end of that Sheff Utd game to save us two points. I honestly had more positive things than negative to say about him after that game, and now it’s basically all positive.

I like what Henderson brings to the team in terms of commanding his area and being on the front foot. DeGea is second only to Schmeichel in terms of his performance levels over a long period in his time at the club, and it isn’t close after those two, but he’s lost it and has been poor for years.

As I said in my previous post in this thread, I genuinely like De Gea and think that he is a club legend, but there’s no chance he’s been a better keeper for us than VdS.

 

[Falcow]

DDG spending time with his IH and baby will make to consider home more. He’ll watch Dean and know it’s time. He’ll go at the end of the season

Well Paris ain't home and zero chance anyone in Spain is paying him anymore than maybe 120k pw so unless you think he is taking a 250k per week pay cut....

 

[Falcow]

Same here. People forget that he still had enough balls to pick himself up and make a flying save right at the end of that Sheff Utd game to save us two points. I honestly had more positive things than negative to say about him after that game, and now it’s basically all positive.

As I said in my previous post in this thread, I genuinely like De Gea and think that he is a club legend, but there’s no chance he’s been a better keeper for us than VdS.

I think its debatable if you ignore the last 2 years but we cant of course....DDG was amazing for 3 or 4 years but he has been very poor for the last 2 years really.

 

[dove]

Too early to tell. Played a very important part in our 2nd goal and was generally comfortable but on the other hand he passed a few balls straight to City players, something DDG was heavily criticised for. He has a perfect opportunity now to show his worth so let's see how it goes.

 

[RashyForPM]

I think its debatable if you ignore the last 2 years but we cant of course....DDG was amazing for 3 or 4 years but he has been very poor for the last 2 years really.

That’s the thing. We got 7 years of best goalkeeper in the world standards out of VdS (yes, better than Casillas and Buffon, I’ll debate this all day with anyone who disagrees), and 4 from DDG. I draw my conclusion simply from that.

 

[Tom Cato]

Well I certainly think he's a better box player than De Gea. Is he a better shot stopper?

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Well I certainly think he's a better box player than De Gea. Is he a better shot stopper?

i don’t think he is. But that’s what we have to accept.

 

[Saddy]

For anyone who's had to deal with handling a new baby into a family I just don't see who David will manage - even in normal times how can he cope without his family living locally to the club his place of work ?

I hated how Jose managed to get away without living locally with his family and if you're paying millions per year for an employee to give their absolute best for the job I don't see how that can be done without the total commitment of the employee.

David could get away with a girlfriend a couple of hours away on a plane but not with a young baby it just won't work.

A great player in his prime years but on the decline and this opportunity will be seized by Henderson IMO - PSG the perfect club for David now

 

[JJ12]

Time for Hendo - DDG great servant but best for him and the club he returns to Spain.

 

[Eire Red United]

Well I certainly think he's a better box player than De Gea. Is he a better shot stopper?

At the minute he’s less error prone, he probably doesnt have the spectacular reflex saves in his locker to the same extent De Gea does, but even those are declining from Daves game now.

 

[Vidyoyo]

I stood up for De Gea after the Everton game but I'm impressed by how we play with Hendo in goal. Gives us a wonderful option with that high line

 

[Schmeichel's Cartwheel]

Has to be Henderson. If Burnley go down I’d look at Pope as a cut price number 2 & try to flog De Gea to PSG.

 

[Sandikan]

Great opportunity to let Henderson have a run for the rest of the season now, without it looking like dropping De Gea.

If he does well, no reason he can't take on the Number 1 role.

 

[AltiUn]

Has to be Henderson. If Burnley go down I’d look at Pope as a cut price number 2 & try to flog De Gea to PSG.

Don't think we're gonna convince Pope to be the number 2, he could get into most PL teams as a starter and he's probably eyeing the England spot.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Has to be Henderson. If Burnley go down I’d look at Pope as a cut price number 2 & try to flog De Gea to PSG.

a guy eying up England’s no 1 shirt and a rival of Henderson won’t come to United as no 2 in a million years.

 

[sullydnl]

Well I certainly think he's a better box player than De Gea. Is he a better shot stopper?

In general, no. De Gea hasn't hit his usual heights in that regard this season though.

 

[Schmeichel's Cartwheel]

Don't think we're gonna convince Pope to be the number 2, he could get into most PL teams as a starter and he's probably eyeing the England spot.

Sell it as “compete to start”

I find it hard to believe that a Burnley keeper about to play in the Championship would turn down United. Unless someone like Chelsea or Spurs go for him & promise him #1 I think he’d come in a heartbeat.

 

[Falcow]

That’s the thing. We got 7 years of best goalkeeper in the world standards out of VdS (yes, better than Casillas and Buffon, I’ll debate this all day with anyone who disagrees), and 4 from DDG. I draw my conclusion simply from that.

While I agree, I dont think we had him for 7 years? And he was definitely on the decline in his last season so maybe more like 5?

 

[RashyForPM]

While I agree, I dont think we had him for 7 years? And he was definitely on the decline in his last season so maybe more like 5?

2005-2011 so 6. He had a worldie against Chelsea in his first season, which I thought was in 2004-05. In that case then I’d still say 6 tbf, he was 40 in 2010-11, his last season, but he was still excellent. First choice all the way with very few mistakes (made one against WBA that I remember), and many brilliant moments like a slide tackle on Anelka in the CL a mile away from goal.

Anyway, on a side note, I love that he and RvP still support us.

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[arthurka]

Dean should be our number one DDG has been poor for over 2 years now and Deano is a better all round keeper.

Deano saved Sheffield at least 10 points last season and to can see what losing him has done to Sheffield's defense. Not a doubt in my mind he will become a great keeper for any team that gives him the nr1 spot.

 

[Maciej]

People writing Dean Henderson should be our number one, ahead of de Gea, remind me of people writing Ben Foster should replace Edwin van der Sar back in 2009, 2010.

 

[Falcow]

2005-2011 so 6. He had a worldie against Chelsea in his first season, which I thought was in 2004-05. In that case then I’d still say 6 tbf, he was 40 in 2010-11, his last season, but he was still excellent. First choice all the way with very few mistakes (made one against WBA that I remember), and many brilliant moments like a slide tackle on Anelka in the CL a mile away from goal.

Anyway, on a side note, I love that he and RvP still support us.

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Brillant! Great to see. Yes he was an unreal keeper, him Rio and Vidic....what a trio. Only mistake we made with VDS is that we didnt sign him in 2000.

 

[Josep Dowling]

People writing Dean Henderson should be our number one, ahead of de Gea, remind me of people writing Ben Foster should replace Edwin van der Sar back in 2009, 2010.

Tend to agree. I really like Henderson but he’s had two games in a row and now he’s suddenly replacing De Gea. Let’s see what he does with a run of 10-15 games at least.

 

[::sonny::]

Ole has no the courage to bench the De Gea

I remember Mancini did it, Hart for Given

Mihajlovic as well Donnarumma for Diego Lopez

Scala Buffon for Bucci

 

[Jeppers7]

Same here. People forget that he still had enough balls to pick himself up and make a flying save right at the end of that Sheff Utd game to save us two points. I honestly had more positive things than negative to say about him after that game, and now it’s basically all positive.

As I said in my previous post in this thread, I genuinely like De Gea and think that he is a club legend, but there’s no chance he’s been a better keeper for us than VdS.

Massively better....VDS just played in a better team. We need to learn to differentiate.

 

[groovyalbert]

Assuming Henderson carries on like this whilst Dave's away, there's absolutely no justification in taking Henderson out of the starting XI

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Ole has no the courage to bench the De Gea

I remember Mancini did it, Hart for Given

Mihajlovic as well Donnarumma for Diego Lopez

Scala Buffon for Bucci

it was OGS who brought back Henderson this season, said he would get games and has given him the opportunity.

it was OGS who said he will be Man Utd and England’s No 1.

you talk shit mate.

 

[GwilDor]

If Hendo handles this spell well, i’d find it difficult for Ole to put DDG back as #1 without breaking what one must think he promised to Hendo. To stay here and fight for the #1 place this season.

i don’t think Hendo was perfect today, he had 2 or 3 misplaced long passes which DDG would definately have been criticized for. BUT, he is a different profile of a GK. Much more proactive, active in the field, more vocal etc. more the kind of a GK a dominating team needs. DDG hasn’t excluded himself by making complete errors, but (if Hendo keeps delivering to his strengths) by not delivering to his best on his own strengths.

 

[Kerry Donaghy]

Tend to agree. I really like Henderson but he’s had two games in a row and now he’s suddenly replacing De Gea. Let’s see what he does with a run of 10-15 games at least.

Giving him that run of games is precisely what people are asking for, because when he's come in the team has generally looked better.
We're never going to know either way unless he gets that chance.
When was the last time De Gea was consistent for 10-15 games in a row anyway?
We're lucky if we go 90 minutes without him making some sort of blunder these days.
Absolute no brainer to give Deano a chance in my opinion.

 

[alexthelion]

Massively better....VDS just played in a better team. We need to learn to differentiate.

Oh please, DDG isn't fit to lace VdS' boots.

 

[Chicharo]

Oh please, DDG isn't fit to lace VdS' boots.

Yeah, just an average keeper who was by far our most consistent player for about five years

 

[elmo]

it was OGS who brought back Henderson this season, said he would get games and has given him the opportunity.

it was OGS who said he will be Man Utd and England’s No 1.

you talk shit mate.

Hendo barely got any games till De Gea was given a break because he had a child.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

Ole has no the courage to bench the De Gea

I remember Mancini did it, Hart for Given

Mihajlovic as well Donnarumma for Diego Lopez

Scala Buffon for Bucci

Give it break and have some understanding. Those keepers are experienced ones. Last season was Dean's only first full season in top division level.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Hendo barely got any games till De Gea was given a break because he had a child.

13-14 appearances is not nothing. Talking complete rubbish.

 

[Eire Red United]

Not even close at this stage. Only thing Dave has is his reflex shot stopping and even that is on the wane for him. Whole team looks so much more confident with Deano. Let De Gea go to PSG and keep big Sergio as number 2.

 

[Denis' cuff]

Defence will improve 100% with Hendo behind em

 

[Lentwood]

People writing Dean Henderson should be our number one, ahead of de Gea, remind me of people writing Ben Foster should replace Edwin van der Sar back in 2009, 2010.

I don't really agree with this to be honest. I was never sold on VDS being world-class at United, I think his best years were behind him, however, he was definitely solid and reliable. Therefore, bringing Foster in for VDS presented a significant risk.

DDG has definitely NOT been 'solid and reliable' over the last two seasons for United, far from it. Therefore, given Henderson had such a good season for Sheffield United last year and has looked good whenever given the opportunity to start for United, I think it's a more calculated gamble to give Henderson his chance.

One thing is for sure, we won't learn much about Henderson by giving him the odd cup game. The GK spot could become a problem position if we don't address it now.

 

[pierrethesnack]

While I agree, I dont think we had him for 7 years? And he was definitely on the decline in his last season so maybe more like 5?

I'd be more than happy with VdS in his last season form for the next five years. I'm sure he would have declined further had he kept playing, but don't remember being unhappy with him his last season.