[Wayne's World]

He's still a brilliant talent who is out of form. Happens to all the young players but he still shows flashes of brilliance.

I've no worries of him right now but If he continued this form going into the next 1-2 years then I'd have question marks but confident he'll get over it

 

[Godfather]

Season to forget for him. Hopefully some kind of second season syndrome and not a sign of things to come

 

[elmo]

Looks like a completely different player than I remember coming up through the youth team. What’s happened to that striker that destroyed Chelsea in the youth cup?

He's now playing against men instead of kids.

He'll need more time to adapt.

 

[JJ12]

He needs to pull his finger out (of those Icelandic birds)

All the talent but not at it at all this season.

 

[simplyared]

Prefer to see him playing more as a striker. Not sure RW is his best position.

 

[Adamsk7]

What I don’t understand is why doesn’t he make runs like a striker? He’s been one his whole career at youth level, right? I know Cavani is gold standard in this regard so it’s a bit harsh to compare but surely these boys must be looking at him and going “that’s what I need to do”??

As far as our forwards go, Cavani has brilliant movement, Rashford’s is good but Greenwood and Martial are virtually non existent.

 

[Offside]

Confidence thing. What happens when you’re a teenager getting played out of position in every single game.

 

[SuperiorXI]

He was really poor tonight. Maybe time to take him out of the first team?

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

He was really poor tonight. Maybe time to take him out of the first team?

Martial, Rashford and Cavani are all injured.

 

[Mr.Kaya]

How many goals/assists does he have this season? He's good with both of his feet but he really gotta start scoring more goals. Yes, a player in his age is of course allowed to drop in performance but its been a while since he last scored/had a stand out match now. Last season he was soo good at taking on a player or two, and slide the ball in with both left and right foot. He looked quite deadly, I really want to see more of that Mason. Still only 19 years old, but if hes gonna be a worldclass player for us he gotta show a bit more. He's only 1 year younger than the likes of Haaland and Sancho who both performs at a much higher level.

 

[Devil may care]

Got into the game more when he moved central, no easy task but kept trying to forge an opening and laid a great opportunity on for James.

 

[kundalini]

How many goals/assists does he have this season? He's good with both of his feet but he really gotta start scoring more goals. Yes, a player in his age is of course allowed to drop in performance but its been a while since he last scored/had a stand out match now. Last season he was soo good at taking on a player or two, and slide the ball in with both left and right foot. He looked quite deadly, I really want to see more of that Mason. Still only 19 years old, but if hes gonna be a worldclass player for us he gotta show a bit more. He's only 1 year younger than the likes of Haaland and Sancho who both performs at a much higher level.

Greenwood has 4 goals + 5 assists (including winning the penalty against Leipzig away) in 1979 mins in all competitions.

In the PL he has 1 goal + 1 assist in 1206 mins.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/mason-greenwood/leistungsdaten/spieler/532826/plus/0?saison=2020

Last season he had 17 goals (including one penalty) + 5 assists in 2592 mins in all competitions for the first team.

 

[Raven]

He needs to focus hard on diversifying his game as I feel he can be a bit one pace and one dimensional. He also needs to put on some muscle, he gets pushed off the ball a little too easily. I'm not worried about him because of an off season as a 19 year old, but to improve, he needs to put the work in and time will tell if he does because the sky's the limit for him.

 

[AshRK]

He should have been slowly integrated but because our club decided we don't need a right winger, Greenwood has to play week in week out. It's not helping him, it's not helping the team.

 

[macheda14]

Greenwood has 4 goals + 5 assists (including winning the penalty against Leipzig away) in 1979 mins in all competitions.

In the PL he has 1 goal + 1 assist in 1206 mins.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/mason-greenwood/leistungsdaten/spieler/532826/plus/0?saison=2020

Last season he had 17 goals (including one penalty) + 5 assists in 2592 mins in all competitions for the first team.

Hell get 13 goals in like 600 minutes, it’s fine. Don’t stress.

 

[tjb]

Our fans need to be really patient here. This is the cost of us playing him on the right wing for the past year, he needs to acclimatize to playing as a no.9 at the top level. Right now, Greenwood is very tidy and is a very good individual player. He has good control of the ball, is deceptively quick, has good touches, makes good, tidy decisions. Unfortunately, Greenwood doesn't have flair, he can create on the off chance, but he's not a creative player. He's a striker and it shows every time he plays. He's good at spread play to get others involved, he has a fantastic shooting technique and great shot power. He has good balance and agility on the ball, and is very good in short spurts of acceleration. In essence, he has all the qualities of a good striker, outside of his aerial ability, and he demonstrates this in every game he plays. Unfortunately, playing on the right flank and not having the flair or dribbling ability to consistently take players on individually means that he finds it difficult to create chances for himself in the way Rashford is able to do on the other flank. As a striker, his lack of first team experience in the no.9 role is glaring. He has the skillset, but doesn't yet know how to function in the first team setting which is why his positions and combinations up top are a little rough...and when mixed with playing for a team like ours in which goalscoring opportunities are barely manufactured and can come quick and fast due to lack of possession in the final third, it is paramount that the no.9 consistently makes excellent decisions, something which a 19 year old player would find difficult to do without much experience in the role with the team. We have an opportunity to give him a run to get more familiar with the expectations of the role in the first team. Rather than being a sink or swim situation, this is an opportunity for us to actually develop our future no.9 through experience.

If greenwood were weak on the ball, couldn't shoot or had poor touches, It would be fine to be harsh. However, I don't believe many forwards have the level of striking skills depth that Greenwood currently has. I really believe this is just a situation of us helping him put all these attributes together to form a consistent goalscoring machine.

 

[criticalanalysis]

Our fans need to be really patient here. This is the cost of us playing him on the right wing for the past year, he needs to acclimatize to playing as a no.9 at the top level. Right now, Greenwood is very tidy and is a very good individual player. He has good control of the ball, is deceptively quick, has good touches, makes good, tidy decisions. Unfortunately, Greenwood doesn't have flair, he can create on the off chance, but he's not a creative player. He's a striker and it shows every time he plays. He's good at spread play to get others involved, he has a fantastic shooting technique and great shot power. He has good balance and agility on the ball, and is very good in short spurts of acceleration. In essence, he has all the qualities of a good striker, outside of his aerial ability, and he demonstrates this in every game he plays. Unfortunately, playing on the right flank and not having the flair or dribbling ability to consistently take players on individually means that he finds it difficult to create chances for himself in the way Rashford is able to do on the other flank. As a striker, his lack of first team experience in the no.9 role is glaring. He has the skillset, but doesn't yet know how to function in the first team setting which is why his positions and combinations up top are a little rough...and when mixed with playing for a team like ours in which goalscoring opportunities are barely manufactured and can come quick and fast due to lack of possession in the final third, it is paramount that the no.9 consistently makes excellent decisions, something which a 19 year old player would find difficult to do without much experience in the role with the team. We have an opportunity to give him a run to get more familiar with the expectations of the role in the first team. Rather than being a sink or swim situation, this is an opportunity for us to actually develop our future no.9 through experience.

If greenwood were weak on the ball, couldn't shoot or had poor touches, It would be fine to be harsh. However, I don't believe many forwards have the level of striking skills depth that Greenwood currently has. I really believe this is just a situation of us helping him put all these attributes together to form a consistent goalscoring machine.

Yeah agree with everything. Fundamentally he's outstanding imo.

His performances may be 'ineffective', which is a harsh and true criticism but all things considered, he really shouldn't be put in this position.

 

[Eyepopper]

A potentially great talent who is having way too much expectation placed on his shoulders right now... he draws comparisons to RVP.. at the same age RVP was just about breaking in to the first team at Feyenoord.

 

[tjb]

A potentially great talent who is having way too much expectation placed on his shoulders right now... he draws comparisons to RVP.. at the same age RVP was just about breaking in to the first team at Feyenoord.

its the reason why I believe in loans for talented young players at big clubs. Hee's playing out wide partially due to the lack of pressure placed on the position.Put him in a midtable team for a season (with a full season) and he will come back a top no.9.

I feel people don't like loans because they assume the loaning club can willfully hinder a player they lack a true interest in. The truth, however, is that usually the players loaned out are simply not and may never be good enough to start or play well for those teams. People will watch a Tatith Chong, who showed no technical skills, strength, balance, flair or creativity and expect him to wow and change completely at Bremen.

 

[marktan]

I do wonder if we risk potentially damaging our no.9 options by continuously shunting them out wide. We've done it with Rashford, Martial and now Greenwood.

The former two both at times looked better either out wide (Martial) or as the no.9 (Rashford), now it's flipped the other way. I guess the alternative is you have a player like Brewster that barely plays and then we he does start playing regularly at the top level looks inexperienced, and a bit wank.

 

[Foxbatt]

His problem is also his attitude. He can run around like James and with his skill he is going to get better chances. `if he only plays when someone give his the ball then he is not good enough. Who is his agent? Riola?

 

[Bebestation]

The thing I worry about him is because I feel that Martial and Greenwood have both been better last season and has struggled this season.

The opposition defence seems consistently deeper whilst our attackers are much less close together and able to take them on.

Is Greenwood's dribbling abilities that great to play against a low block? That's as a RW. As a ST how is his ability to hold the central position? Does he make the runs? Does he have the hold up play? Can he header the ball?

I worry a bit because even in games when we have played double striker in a 442 diamond, Greenwood has played in arguably his best position as a RF and not done much.

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

I think its pretty clear that all our attackers have struggled for form this year, that's systematic rather than anything else. I used to say the same under Mourinho and when Ole came in he did change that with all the attackers seemingly playing to the best. As time has progressed, Ole has struggled to build on that and we are back to having a poor system that is compounding the weaknesses of each individual.

 

[Marwood]

I thought he was still the best of the front three and should have had an assist.

He did so well to skin Tomori at one point but Tomori's recovery was even better.

Looked a lot better than Martial when he moved centrally but then ended up wide again with the switch in formation.

So just the three different positions for Mason last night.

 

[Adam-Utd]

He's now playing against men instead of kids.

He'll need more time to adapt.

Even so, he just isn't doing the basics well that he excelled in against Men. Even last year he was showing a lot more to his game, watch his debut against Cardiff and he looked way more controlled and confident than he does now.

i'm sure it's just a period of adaption for him, but for somebody who looked a genuine world class talent in the youth teams, he just looks pretty average right now.

 

[Mike Smalling]

It's not been good enough from him this season, and I am running out of excuses, but I don't think he was particularly bad yesterday. Certainly no worse than James or Martial.

Our complete inability to string passes together and create shooting opportunities makes it very difficult for a player like Greenwood. His best form last year came when we had both Pogba and Bruno on the field and actually played decent passing football.

 

[Sylar]

We need him closer to the edge of the box in one on one situations like we saw last season. Too often it's deeper or out wide. I think part of the reason maybe this:

His best form last year came when we had both Pogba and Bruno on the field and actually played decent passing football.

Agree with this. He had a set position post lock down and we had a set team for the most part

We also had Rashford and martial scoring which meant opposition could not just double team him and he had the element of surprise too.
He has struggled this season but we need to persist (we have no choice right now)

 

[slored1]

Don't think he was as bad as you guys think. Had some bright moments and good linkup play at the start of the second half, but after Ole messed up the subs, the whole team went to shit.

 

[kouroux]

And that fresh start should be a loan at mid-table team, whether domestic or abroad, where he can enjoy his football again whilst developing without the pressure.

It's not a bad idea, it just needs to be the right club with the right manager

 

[kopviolator]

Like almost every youth product he's been hyped beyond reason. He's a very talented boy but that's what he is, a boy. There will be ups and downs for him and as time moves on he'll find more stability in his game. Go Mason.

 

[SuperiorXI]

Martial, Rashford and Cavani are all injured.

Change shape

 

[manuchamp88]

Pretty sure we can't afford that, considering he's one of our main forwards and we don't have many other options on the bench. Loaning Greenwood might end with us playing James as a regular for the whole next season. Think about that for a moment.

This is assuming we buy/loan another forward, of course.

 

[manuchamp88]

It's not a bad idea, it just needs to be the right club with the right manager

Agreed.

 

[Rozay]

He’s not threatening anyone. Totally ineffective more often than not this season.

 

[Offside]

Like almost every youth product he's been hyped beyond reason. He's a very talented boy but that's what he is, a boy. There will be ups and downs for him and as time moves on he'll find more stability in his game. Go Mason.

Yep. We’ve still seen some very good moments from him this season, which is more promising than the likes of Januzaj who did absolutely feck all in their second season. Rashford had months of being pretty useless in his second season but was fantastic towards the end. Could still happen with Mason.

 

[Abhinav]

The key issue with his form is that he is not getting himself into dangerous positions. Most of the time he is on the wings, receives the ball, try to turn inside, gets crowded out and plays the ball back to the rb. I feel he is really struggling with confidence and is unwilling to take risks. The coaching team need to really build him up again.

 

[Escobar]

Time to burst his bubble?
On a serious note, I think his poor form this season is down to his attitude/mentality.

 

[Zlatans Knee]

This is a bit controversial but I actually think that Welbeck would offer us more right now than Greenwood
Not saying that he isn’t going to get better, but he has not helped us a lot this season.

 

[NicolaSacco]

This is a bit controversial but I actually think that Welbeck would offer us more right now than Greenwood
Not saying that he isn’t going to get better, but he has not helped us a lot this season.

I guess you're watching the game on the BBC. He does look pretty decent, if a little slower than I remember. Links up quite well with other forwards too - with more talented players around him that would be an asset.

 

[AltiUn]

Welbeck had countless opportunities at two big clubs and he blew them, he’d be more useless for us than Lingard was.