How good is Harry Kane?

Pow · Mar 17, 2021

Gary_Walsh_Nou_Camp_Hell said:
I think you mean the 90s... and he ultimately had to leave to Roma to win the league.

Kane is a great player but a sick note

Didn't he leave fiorentina to go roma to win the league?
BATIGOL !

Edit - my bad I read that wrong.

Doracle · Mar 17, 2021

He’d be devastating at City and £100 million for them would be a bargain to acquire him. They would also be able to rest him far more than Spurs and probably avoid the injuries he’s suffered from time to time. If he were to go there, they’ve basically got the league sewn up for the next 5 years.

roonster09 · Mar 17, 2021

Doracle said:
He’d be devastating at City and £100 million for them would be a bargain to acquire him. They would also be able to rest him far more than Spurs and probably avoid the injuries he’s suffered from time to time. If he were to go there, they’ve basically got the league sewn up for the next 5 years.

He won't be available for 100 million.

Morty_ · Mar 17, 2021

roonster09 said:
He won't be available for 100 million.

Also, City is getting Haaland, not Kane.

BusbyMalone · Mar 17, 2021

Surely he's going to overtake Alan Shearer as the top goalscorer in the Premier League. Assuming he'll stay in the league, of course.

Dante · Mar 17, 2021

Here's a list of the 86 most productive players in Premier League history:

Rank	Player	Appearnaces	Goals	Assists	Combined
1	Alan Shearer	441	260	64	324
2	Wayne Rooney	491	208	103	311
3	Frank Lampard	609	177	102	279
4	Ryan Giggs	632	109	162	271
5	Andrew Cole	414	187	73	260
6	Thierry Henry	258	175	74	249
7	Sergio Agüero	271	181	46	227
8	Teddy Sheringham	418	146	76	222
9	Steven Gerrard	504	120	92	212
10	Robbie Fowler	379	163	39	202
11	Les Ferdinand	351	149	49	198
12	Robin Van Persie	280	144	53	197
13	Jermain Defoe	496	162	33	195
14	Harry Kane	236	159	33	192
15	Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink	288	128	58	186
16	Michael Owen	326	150	31	181
16	Dennis Bergkamp	315	87	94	181
18	Nicolas Anelka	364	125	48	173
18	Dwight Yorke	375	123	50	173
20	Peter Crouch	468	108	58	166
21	Matthew Le Tissier	270	101	64	165
22	Robbie Keane	349	126	37	163
22	Emile Heskey	516	110	53	163
24	Paul Scholes	499	107	55	162
25	Didier Drogba	254	104	54	158
26	David Silva	309	60	93	153
27	Jamie Vardy	236	115	36	151
27	Dion Dublin	312	111	40	151
29	Romelu Lukaku	252	113	35	148
30	Raheem Sterling	284	95	49	144
31	Kevin Davies	444	88	55	143
32	David Beckham	265	62	80	142
33	James Milner	558	55	85	140
34	Eden Hazard	245	85	54	139
35	Ian Wright	213	113	22	135
36	Dimitar Berbatov	229	94	40	134
37	Emmanuel Adebayor	242	97	36	133
38	Theo Walcott	362	77	53	130
39	Ole Gunnar Solskjaer	235	91	37	128
39	James Beattie	331	91	37	128
41	Eric Cantona	156	70	56	126
42	Mohamed Salah	149	92	32	124
42	Sadio Mané	220	91	33	124
42	Chris Sutton	255	83	41	124
42	Gary Speed	535	80	44	124
46	Darren Bent	276	106	15	121
46	Yakubu	252	95	26	121
48	Mark Viduka	240	92	28	120
48	Carlos Tevez	202	84	36	120
50	Kevin Campbell	325	83	36	119
51	Olivier Giroud	252	90	28	118
51	Cristiano Ronaldo	196	84	34	118
53	Gareth Barry	653	53	64	117
54	Kevin Phillips	263	92	24	116
55	Paolo di Canio	190	66	49	115
56	Fernando Torres	212	85	29	114
56	Gylfi Sigurdsson	308	65	49	114
58	Craig Bellamy	294	81	31	112
58	Brian Deane	286	71	41	112
60	Riyad Mahrez	222	66	44	110
61	Ruud van Nistelrooy	150	95	14	109
61	Damien Duff	392	54	55	109
63	Gabriel Agbonlahor	322	74	34	108
64	Louis Saha	289	85	20	105
65	Heung-min Son	188	66	38	104
66	Roberto Firmino	202	63	40	103
66	Robert Pires	198	62	41	103
68	Gianfranco Zola	229	59	42	101
69	Christian Benteke	247	77	21	98
70	Daniel Sturridge	218	76	21	97
70	Mark Hughes	297	64	33	97
72	Niall Quinn	250	59	37	96
73	Kevin Nolan	401	69	26	95
73	Lee Bowyer	397	57	38	95
73	Harry Kewell	274	57	38	95
76	Alexis Sánchez	154	63	31	94
76	Yaya Touré	230	62	32	94
78	Luis Suarez	110	69	23	92
78	Duncan Ferguson	269	68	24	92
80	Stan Collymore	163	62	29	91
80	Peter Beardsley	185	58	33	91
82	Tony Cottee	220	78	10	88
83	Chris Armstrong	216	71	16	87
84	Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang	108	63	18	81
84	Anthony Martial	167	55	26	81
84	Marcus Rashford	171	53	28	81

Kane already has the 14th best output of anybody who's played in the PL with another 4 or 5 seasons left in his career to improve on that total.

But even more flattering for him is this table of end product per appearance:

Rank	Player	Appearnaces	Goals	Assists	Combined	Combined per appearance
1	Thierry Henry	258	175	74	249	0.965116
2	Sergio Agüero	271	181	46	227	0.837638
3	Luis Suarez	110	69	23	92	0.836364
4	Mohamed Salah	149	92	32	124	0.832215
5	Harry Kane	236	159	33	192	0.813559
6	Eric Cantona	156	70	56	126	0.807692
7	Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang	108	63	18	81	0.75
8	Alan Shearer	441	260	64	324	0.734694
9	Ruud van Nistelrooy	150	95	14	109	0.726667
10	Robin Van Persie	280	144	53	197	0.703571
11	Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink	288	128	58	186	0.645833
12	Jamie Vardy	236	115	36	151	0.639831
13	Ian Wright	213	113	22	135	0.633803
14	Wayne Rooney	491	208	103	311	0.633401
15	Andrew Cole	414	187	73	260	0.628019
16	Didier Drogba	254	104	54	158	0.622047
17	Matthew Le Tissier	270	101	64	165	0.611111
18	Alexis Sánchez	154	63	31	94	0.61039
19	Paolo di Canio	190	66	49	115	0.605263
20	Cristiano Ronaldo	196	84	34	118	0.602041
21	Carlos Tevez	202	84	36	120	0.594059
22	Romelu Lukaku	252	113	35	148	0.587302
23	Dimitar Berbatov	229	94	40	134	0.585153
24	Dennis Bergkamp	315	87	94	181	0.574603
25	Eden Hazard	245	85	54	139	0.567347
26	Les Ferdinand	351	149	49	198	0.564103
27	Sadio Mané	220	91	33	124	0.563636
28	Stan Collymore	163	62	29	91	0.558282
29	Michael Owen	326	150	31	181	0.555215
30	Heung-min Son	188	66	38	104	0.553191
31	Emmanuel Adebayor	242	97	36	133	0.549587
32	Ole Gunnar Solskjaer	235	91	37	128	0.544681
33	Fernando Torres	212	85	29	114	0.537736
34	David Beckham	265	62	80	142	0.535849
35	Robbie Fowler	379	163	39	202	0.532982
36	Teddy Sheringham	418	146	76	222	0.5311
37	Robert Pires	198	62	41	103	0.520202
38	Roberto Firmino	202	63	40	103	0.509901
39	Raheem Sterling	284	95	49	144	0.507042
40	Mark Viduka	240	92	28	120	0.5
41	Riyad Mahrez	222	66	44	110	0.495495
42	David Silva	309	60	93	153	0.495146
43	Peter Beardsley	185	58	33	91	0.491892
44	Chris Sutton	255	83	41	124	0.486275
45	Anthony Martial	167	55	26	81	0.48503
46	Dion Dublin	312	111	40	151	0.483974
47	Yakubu	252	95	26	121	0.480159
48	Nicolas Anelka	364	125	48	173	0.475275
49	Marcus Rashford	171	53	28	81	0.473684
50	Olivier Giroud	252	90	28	118	0.468254
51	Robbie Keane	349	126	37	163	0.467049
52	Dwight Yorke	375	123	50	173	0.461333
53	Frank Lampard	609	177	102	279	0.458128
54	Daniel Sturridge	218	76	21	97	0.444954
55	Kevin Phillips	263	92	24	116	0.441065
56	Gianfranco Zola	229	59	42	101	0.441048
57	Darren Bent	276	106	15	121	0.438406
58	Ryan Giggs	632	109	162	271	0.428797
59	Steven Gerrard	504	120	92	212	0.420635
60	Yaya Touré	230	62	32	94	0.408696
61	Chris Armstrong	216	71	16	87	0.402778
62	Tony Cottee	220	78	10	88	0.4
63	Christian Benteke	247	77	21	98	0.396761
64	Jermain Defoe	496	162	33	195	0.393145
65	Brian Deane	286	71	41	112	0.391608
66	James Beattie	331	91	37	128	0.386707
67	Niall Quinn	250	59	37	96	0.384
68	Craig Bellamy	294	81	31	112	0.380952
69	Gylfi Sigurdsson	308	65	49	114	0.37013
70	Kevin Campbell	325	83	36	119	0.366154
71	Louis Saha	289	85	20	105	0.363322
72	Theo Walcott	362	77	53	130	0.359116
73	Peter Crouch	468	108	58	166	0.354701
74	Harry Kewell	274	57	38	95	0.346715
75	Duncan Ferguson	269	68	24	92	0.342007
76	Gabriel Agbonlahor	322	74	34	108	0.335404
77	Mark Hughes	297	64	33	97	0.326599
78	Paul Scholes	499	107	55	162	0.324649
79	Kevin Davies	444	88	55	143	0.322072
80	Emile Heskey	516	110	53	163	0.315891
81	Damien Duff	392	54	55	109	0.278061
82	James Milner	558	55	85	140	0.250896
83	Lee Bowyer	397	57	38	95	0.239295
84	Kevin Nolan	401	69	26	95	0.236908
85	Gary Speed	535	80	44	124	0.231776
86	Gareth Barry	653	53	64	117	0.179173

Kane has the 5th best end product per appearance in Premier League history. And that's considering it's only this season he's only learned how to assist consistently. There's every chance he could jump a place or two up the list by the time he retires.

So the answer to the OP is 'world class'.

By the way... Henry was unreal. Easily the best player I've ever seen in the PL. Should have ended his career with several Ballon D'Ors. Even better than Ronaldo when he was here, imo.

Amar__ · Mar 17, 2021

I think he is an excellent player, but I have lost any sympathy towards him watching his behaviour on the pitch. He is literally going into every game trying to injure other players, he should be called for that and hopefully someone does that to him which will put him down from doing it again before he injures someone more seriously.

jeff gurr said:
I actually discount his England goals due to the weak opposition England play. Lithuania & Montenegro for example. If Rooney or Charlton played against the same quality of International opposition they would have doubled their totals.

Many of Rooney's goals are in Euro and WC qualifiers against the likes of San Marino, etc.

acnumber9 · Mar 17, 2021

That table just shows how underrated Andy Cole was. Barely ever gets talked about.

sullydnl · Mar 17, 2021

His combination of goals and assists this season has been really impressive. Could very easily finish top on both counts in the league this season while playing in a fairly shite Mourinho side.

Dante · Mar 17, 2021

acnumber9 said:
That table just shows how underrated Andy Cole was. Barely ever gets talked about.

His passing was always underrated. There was definitely more to him than the poacher tag he gets lumbered with.

Theo Cherry · Mar 17, 2021

acnumber9 said:
That table just shows how underrated Andy Cole was. Barely ever gets talked about.

My first though exactly!

FootballHQ · Mar 17, 2021

Should be playing in the champions league.

Gehrman · Mar 17, 2021

acnumber9 said:
That table just shows how underrated Andy Cole was. Barely ever gets talked about.

True. It's kind of weird really. I still have his, Solskjærs and Beckhams autograph hidden away at home from the 99 season. I was pissed off though because I mainly wanted Giggs autograph. These 3 were absolute gentlemen though.

Gehrman · Mar 17, 2021

I admire his loyalty to Spurs, but I think he really has to move to one of the biggest clubs to get some trophies before he retires. Shearer's legacy suffered for similar reasons.

Eire Red United · Mar 17, 2021

Needs to go to a big club. Serious footballer

VidaRed · May 22, 2021

redrobed · May 22, 2021

Should be at a bigger club. If not us, then a City, a Chelsea, even Arsenal. But don’t let a player of this ability spend his whole career at Spurs.

Wolf1992 · May 22, 2021

Scroto Baggins said:
As of right at this moment on form? Definitely in the conversation for best in the world.

Over his career? Behind Lewa, and of course Messi, Ronaldo if you think they are strikers. Shades Benzema for me, but it is close. Hard to know where to put Mbappe given he plays for PSG in a league that they should walk given their attacking talent, feel he needs to be doing it in a much more competitive league before he will be in the conversation. Haaland too early to tell, but both could be potential Ballon d'Or winners later in their careers.

I guess you can argue the same with Lewa about playing in the best team in the league because of how dominant Bayern are, Bayern have won the Bundesliga since the 12-13 season, Lewa joined the start of the 14-15 season, 6 titles at Bayern. But his stats at Dortmund were also impressive.

Mbappé shined with Monaco and PSG in Champions League, a thing that Kane hasn't done yet.
When Tottenham reached the semifinal, their best player was Lucas Moura not Harry Kane.

Cheech Wizard · May 22, 2021

Wayne's World said:
He's absolutely class until he turns up at Anfield (like 99% of footballers who turn into donkeys who can't hit a barn door once they rock up there)

Wrong. He's actually one of the better strikers who has a decent record of scoring there. Scored there 4 times in 4 separate games. Better than Aguero who could never score there during his time with City and his Atletico Madrid days.

TheRedHearted · May 22, 2021

Wolf1992 said:
Mbappé shined with Monaco and PSG in Champions League, a thing that Kane hasn't done yet.
When Tottenham reached the semifinal, their best player was Lucas Moura not Harry Kane.

Wasn’t Harry Kane even doubtful for those games with injury?

VidaRed · May 22, 2021

I think bale has influenced kane's decision to seek greener pastures. Kane is at the same level as bale when he left spurs and he's gone onto win a tonne of silverware and isn't hated by the spurs fans. Kane wants to replicate that.

Cast5 · May 22, 2021

He’s absolutely world class, unbelievable footballer. He will go down as an all time PL great.

Deery · May 22, 2021

Seems a likeable bloke, hope he signs with United but looking like it’s going to be City..

Stacks · May 22, 2021

TheRedHearted said:
Wasn’t Harry Kane even doubtful for those games with injury?

He was carrying injuries. He missed the first leg of round 16, quarter final 2nd leg, both semi finals. Still scored 5 in this injury hit campaign.

Nori- · May 22, 2021

He's very good, clearly. I remember saying last summer, after Martial had a decent season, that I would swap Kane for Martial in a heartbeat and got slated for it on here.

I still don't think he is worth £130m though. Considering his age, he will have very little resale value towards the end of his 5 year contract.

A lot of big clubs in the last decade have been smart and bought YOUNG top quality players, who even after years of being with their clubs, are now worth more and if sold, the money can be reinvested. We should be thinking like that.

If the club want to spend that money then it HAS to be for Haaland. No one else.

iKnowNothing · May 22, 2021

He/his agent have unleashed their PR machinery now to try and have the fans on ‘their side’. The whole “I want to be the best version of myself” line that he kept repeating in his interview with Gary was straight out of some PR book.
They know that this one is going to be a long drawn out saga if Levy wants it to be, and they want to control the narrative here.
At the end of the day, I don’t think he’s worth the 120mil plus price tag, given his age, injury history and the general climate given Covid.

TrustInOle · May 22, 2021

Dante said:
Here's a list of the 86 most productive players in Premier League history:

Rank Player Appearnaces Goals Assists Combined
1
Alan Shearer
441
260
64
324
2
Wayne Rooney
491
208
103
311
3
Frank Lampard
609
177
102
279
4
Ryan Giggs
632
109
162
271
5
Andrew Cole
414
187
73
260
6
Thierry Henry
258
175
74
249
7
Sergio Agüero
271
181
46
227
8
Teddy Sheringham
418
146
76
222
9
Steven Gerrard
504
120
92
212
10
Robbie Fowler
379
163
39
202
11
Les Ferdinand
351
149
49
198
12
Robin Van Persie
280
144
53
197
13
Jermain Defoe
496
162
33
195
14
Harry Kane
236
159
33
192
15
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink
288
128
58
186
16
Michael Owen
326
150
31
181
16
Dennis Bergkamp
315
87
94
181
18
Nicolas Anelka
364
125
48
173
18
Dwight Yorke
375
123
50
173
20
Peter Crouch
468
108
58
166
21
Matthew Le Tissier
270
101
64
165
22
Robbie Keane
349
126
37
163
22
Emile Heskey
516
110
53
163
24
Paul Scholes
499
107
55
162
25
Didier Drogba
254
104
54
158
26
David Silva
309
60
93
153
27
Jamie Vardy
236
115
36
151
27
Dion Dublin
312
111
40
151
29
Romelu Lukaku
252
113
35
148
30
Raheem Sterling
284
95
49
144
31
Kevin Davies
444
88
55
143
32
David Beckham
265
62
80
142
33
James Milner
558
55
85
140
34
Eden Hazard
245
85
54
139
35
Ian Wright
213
113
22
135
36
Dimitar Berbatov
229
94
40
134
37
Emmanuel Adebayor
242
97
36
133
38
Theo Walcott
362
77
53
130
39
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
235
91
37
128
39
James Beattie
331
91
37
128
41
Eric Cantona
156
70
56
126
42
Mohamed Salah
149
92
32
124
42
Sadio Mané
220
91
33
124
42
Chris Sutton
255
83
41
124
42
Gary Speed
535
80
44
124
46
Darren Bent
276
106
15
121
46
Yakubu
252
95
26
121
48
Mark Viduka
240
92
28
120
48
Carlos Tevez
202
84
36
120
50
Kevin Campbell
325
83
36
119
51
Olivier Giroud
252
90
28
118
51
Cristiano Ronaldo
196
84
34
118
53
Gareth Barry
653
53
64
117
54
Kevin Phillips
263
92
24
116
55
Paolo di Canio
190
66
49
115
56
Fernando Torres
212
85
29
114
56
Gylfi Sigurdsson
308
65
49
114
58
Craig Bellamy
294
81
31
112
58
Brian Deane
286
71
41
112
60
Riyad Mahrez
222
66
44
110
61
Ruud van Nistelrooy
150
95
14
109
61
Damien Duff
392
54
55
109
63
Gabriel Agbonlahor
322
74
34
108
64
Louis Saha
289
85
20
105
65
Heung-min Son
188
66
38
104
66
Roberto Firmino
202
63
40
103
66
Robert Pires
198
62
41
103
68
Gianfranco Zola
229
59
42
101
69
Christian Benteke
247
77
21
98
70
Daniel Sturridge
218
76
21
97
70
Mark Hughes
297
64
33
97
72
Niall Quinn
250
59
37
96
73
Kevin Nolan
401
69
26
95
73
Lee Bowyer
397
57
38
95
73
Harry Kewell
274
57
38
95
76
Alexis Sánchez
154
63
31
94
76
Yaya Touré
230
62
32
94
78
Luis Suarez
110
69
23
92
78
Duncan Ferguson
269
68
24
92
80
Stan Collymore
163
62
29
91
80
Peter Beardsley
185
58
33
91
82
Tony Cottee
220
78
10
88
83
Chris Armstrong
216
71
16
87
84
Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang
108
63
18
81
84
Anthony Martial
167
55
26
81
84
Marcus Rashford
171
53
28
81

Kane already has the 14th best output of anybody who's played in the PL with another 4 or 5 seasons left in his career to improve on that total.

But even more flattering for him is this table of end product per appearance:

Rank Player Appearnaces Goals Assists Combined Combined per appearance
1
Thierry Henry
258
175
74
249
0.965116
2
Sergio Agüero
271
181
46
227
0.837638
3
Luis Suarez
110
69
23
92
0.836364
4
Mohamed Salah
149
92
32
124
0.832215
5
Harry Kane
236
159
33
192
0.813559
6
Eric Cantona
156
70
56
126
0.807692
7
Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang
108
63
18
81
0.75
8
Alan Shearer
441
260
64
324
0.734694
9
Ruud van Nistelrooy
150
95
14
109
0.726667
10
Robin Van Persie
280
144
53
197
0.703571
11
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink
288
128
58
186
0.645833
12
Jamie Vardy
236
115
36
151
0.639831
13
Ian Wright
213
113
22
135
0.633803
14
Wayne Rooney
491
208
103
311
0.633401
15
Andrew Cole
414
187
73
260
0.628019
16
Didier Drogba
254
104
54
158
0.622047
17
Matthew Le Tissier
270
101
64
165
0.611111
18
Alexis Sánchez
154
63
31
94
0.61039
19
Paolo di Canio
190
66
49
115
0.605263
20
Cristiano Ronaldo
196
84
34
118
0.602041
21
Carlos Tevez
202
84
36
120
0.594059
22
Romelu Lukaku
252
113
35
148
0.587302
23
Dimitar Berbatov
229
94
40
134
0.585153
24
Dennis Bergkamp
315
87
94
181
0.574603
25
Eden Hazard
245
85
54
139
0.567347
26
Les Ferdinand
351
149
49
198
0.564103
27
Sadio Mané
220
91
33
124
0.563636
28
Stan Collymore
163
62
29
91
0.558282
29
Michael Owen
326
150
31
181
0.555215
30
Heung-min Son
188
66
38
104
0.553191
31
Emmanuel Adebayor
242
97
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Kane has the 5th best end product per appearance in Premier League history. And that's considering it's only this season he's only learned how to assist consistently. There's every chance he could jump a place or two up the list by the time he retires.

So the answer to the OP is 'world class'.

By the way... Henry was unreal. Easily the best player I've ever seen in the PL. Should have ended his career with several Ballon D'Ors. Even better than Ronaldo when he was here, imo.

Off topic so apologies, but Beckham's standing surprised me. Hypothetically if he carried his career at United he could very easily have finished as the highest scoring midfielder.

Henry looking as stellar as ever. In response to the OP he is easily world class with the potential (time) to reach Shearer's record which would speak for itself.

Bebestation · May 22, 2021

Harry Kane for me is a great, world class player.

However, I believe he slows down a team, gives a team a pivot that may not necessary need a pivot and gives his team an obvious team shape that can be easier to defend to - leaving the team most likely only as good as Kane maybe on the day.

It’s a hard thing to describe without sounding like I don’t rate him - because I do.

The best way to explain it is by watching Cavani - he is kind of not involved in the build up much at all and focusing on the positions to get for a simple finish; leaving the rest of the team having the ability to play to their speed, tricks and level to set him up. This is what I see in also in a striker like Haaland or maybe even Lewandowski - less involved in the team build up than Kane but more focused on the pure striker role whilst the rest of team focus on setting them up.

Kane is the opposite, is usually part of the build up whilst may usually be part of the finish. It gives the team the shape of Kane’s gameplay which can have some slight negative consequences hidden behind the positive ones.

wise_old_man · May 22, 2021

Bebestation said:
Harry Kane for me is a great, world class player.

However, I believe he slows down a team, gives a team a pivot that may not necessary need a pivot and gives his team an obvious team shape that can be easier to defend to - leaving the team most likely only as good as Kane maybe on the day.

It’s a hard thing to describe without sounding like I don’t rate him - because I do.

The best way to explain it is by watching Cavani - he is kind of not involved in the build up much at all and focusing on the positions to get for a simple finish; leaving the rest of the team having the ability to play to their speed, tricks and level to set him up. This is what I see in also in a striker like Haaland or maybe even Lewandowski - less involved in the team build up than Kane but more focused on the pure striker role whilst the rest of team focus on setting them up.

Kane is the opposite, is usually part of the build up whilst may usually be part of the finish. It gives the team the shape of Kane’s gameplay which can have some slight negative consequences hidden behind the positive ones.

Sounds like you'd prefer playing like Pep's City: Attacking without a clear striker, while every other midfielder can score the goals needed.

Varun · May 22, 2021

Bebestation said:
Harry Kane for me is a great, world class player.

However, I believe he slows down a team, gives a team a pivot that may not necessary need a pivot and gives his team an obvious team shape that can be easier to defend to - leaving the team most likely only as good as Kane maybe on the day.

It’s a hard thing to describe without sounding like I don’t rate him - because I do.

The best way to explain it is by watching Cavani - he is kind of not involved in the build up much at all and focusing on the positions to get for a simple finish; leaving the rest of the team having the ability to play to their speed, tricks and level to set him up. This is what I see in also in a striker like Haaland or maybe even Lewandowski - less involved in the team build up than Kane but more focused on the pure striker role whilst the rest of team focus on setting them up.

Kane is the opposite, is usually part of the build up whilst may usually be part of the finish. It gives the team the shape of Kane’s gameplay which can have some slight negative consequences hidden behind the positive ones.

He plays for Spurs where he's the best striker and the best creator at the same time. The only other good attacker they have is Son who's at his best running behind the line. Is it any surprise then that he drops deep and does what's needed for Spurs to do well? There's no way he's dropping that deep and playing the creator all the time in a team that has a Bruno, Pogba, KDB etc. Yes, he'll still be involved in the build up, it'd be poor to not mix it up and use his skills but it certainly won't be like at Spurs, where he's in the center circle half the game.

Bebestation · May 22, 2021

Varun said:
He plays for Spurs where he's the best striker and the best creator at the same time. The only other good attacker they have is Son who's at his best running behind the line. Is it any surprise then that he drops deep and does what's needed for Spurs to do well? There's no way he's dropping that deep and playing the creator all the time in a team that has a Bruno, Pogba, KDB etc. Yes, he'll still be involved in the build up, it'd be poor to not mix it up and use his skills but it certainly won't be like at Spurs, where he's in the center circle half the game.

Even when I watch Kane for Spurs and England he can play like the main and only man, the team is only as good as he is on the day. (Kane’s CL final injury return performance is maybe unfair to bring up but still; it’s just an example I remember).

When I see Kane for Spurs and his great performances with Son they tend to be nice assists and goals on the counter after Kane makes some nice passes. I’m not really sure if his ST style fits the possession football that city end up having to play against lower block teams.

Whilst people are scared of Kane at city if it does happen - I don’t necessarily think it will work out as much as it might meet the eye.

Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber · May 22, 2021

Kane would suit City's current style. He could easily play that false 8 role KDB has been all season. Allowing KDB go back to bossing center midfield instead of operating as a false striker. And with City's glut of scoring flankers. Kane would have 'a whole bunch of Son's' to link up with.

Infact I think he'd even suit us and pool for similar reasons. It's for a Chelsea where I just don't see the fit.

Lelouch geass · May 22, 2021

He is better than Lewa and best in world atm.

GDaly95 · May 22, 2021

Comes across as really likeable, the leader by example type.

I think he'll stay at Spurs though. He'll become the highest PL goalscorer and at some stage Tottenham will win an FA Cup or Carabao and everyone will rejoice for him.

redshaw · May 22, 2021

Like how good he is with his build up play and creating chances for others as well as being a top scorer. Could probably fit into a lot of teams.

It's concerning how good he'll be under Pep. The Abi Dhabi project now has a stranglehold on the league with 3/4 league wins and 5/9.

Varun · May 22, 2021

Bebestation said:
Even when I watch Kane for Spurs and England he can play like the main and only man, the team is only as good as he is on the day. (Kane’s CL final injury return performance is maybe unfair to bring up but still; it’s just an example I remember).

When I see Kane for Spurs and his great performances with Son they tend to be nice assists and goals on the counter after Kane makes some nice passes. I’m not really sure if his ST style fits the possession football that city end up having to play against lower block teams.

Whilst people are scared of Kane at city if it does happen - I don’t necessarily think it will work out as much as it might meet the eye.

I don't watch England play so can't comment on that but what you're saying for Spurs is true but I've explained why he has to do it in my post. He's not going to drop in midfield and hog the ball from KDB, Pogba and Bruno to orchestrate play.

GoldanoGraham · May 22, 2021

He is a quality player no doubt, however, I fear if anyone lays out huge cash for him they maybe disappointed as I feel you will see him more and more on the treatment table over the next few years as he’s had several bad ankle injuries and they may well start to take a significant toll on him.

He should have left Spurs a season or 2 ago instead of signing that new contract.

Realistically there are only 3 teams that could afford what Levy will demand and that’s City, Chelsea and PSG.

GueRed · May 22, 2021

Smalling had him in his pocket everytime they faced each other

Kane is a world class striker who leads the line well and links up play really well.

mark clatternburg · May 22, 2021

FootballHQ said:
Should be playing in the champions league.

Lots of players play in the champions and first three losers league. Kane should have actual medals.
If you boys do the bizzi today, ours even stand a chance of doing so, even if they have hearts of pudding sometimes

DWelbz19 · May 22, 2021

Below Big Body Benz and Lewandowski. Lacks their CV in the big leagues. Probably best of the next bracket. Current Ronaldo level, slightly above likes of Haaland, Suarez, Lukaku, etc.

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