Eric Bailly | loan agreed with OM

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Not arsed.

Has some great qualities but watching him through my fingers every time he goes into a challenge isn’t the sort of attribute I expect from a starting United CB.

I’m not Maguires biggest fan but at least he’s not made of a wet paper bag.
 

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He's actually played really well this season and probably deserved more games than he's had. The issue is, when Ole dropped Lindelof to start him, they lost 6-1 at home to Spurs.

But after years of being completely out of the picture and not being anywhere near the starting 11, Ole let Smalling go and kept Bailly, showed faith in him to play when past history indicated he didn't deserve it and he's improved as the season has gone on and become a genuine option as a first choice centre back.

And now he throws his toys. What an idiot.
 

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In other news, as he was throwing his toys out of his pram he pulled his hamstring - accumulation of games (c100 in 5 years) - out for 3 weeks (will end up being three months) taking him nicely up to the end of the season again -and as a bonus will give him the chance to sit out pre season training at his next club....
 

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I don't think this'll go too far given that Ole gave Bailly yet another chance only to see him get injured yet again.
 

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Uh oh, on the very first hint of something you dont like, you turn nasty really fast.
 

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No real issues with this. If only other players rejected our contract offers in the bid to seek for first team football. Bailly is good on his day, probably a higher ceiling than Lindelof but he's not as consistent with his performances and frankly given his injury record he cannot be relied on. I do wonder who would buy him, can't imagine we will get a good fee.
 

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Ole prefers his favourites (Lindelöf & Maguire) even when he's fit and they play like shit so him being injury prone doesn't mean much. We have a manager who made his mind up and doesn't select his teams based on performances. That's probably why he's frustrated and rightly so. Such a shame because he's clearly our best defender at the club.

I wonder how much of this, if any, links to the reports about Maguire wanting a CB partner who speaks English or was born in England. Cavani wants out, Mata, Romero leaving, Rojo gone, Pogba potentially, DDG might now be No2, Bailly now apparently off....that's a large section of what I'd assume is a Spanish speaking core of the dressing room (plus guys like Pogba and Bailly who are fluent).
Well, when you put it like that...That's probably Ole's wet dream though considering he wanted a "British core". Henderson in goal, Maguire - Ben White at CB, AWB - Shaw at fullbacks, Longstaff and McTominay in midfield Rashy - Bruno - James behind Greenwood as ST. Ole smiling on the touchline. I can see years of mediocrity while wandering between midtable & top 4 with that squad and manager.
 

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I don't think this'll go too far given that Ole gave Bailly yet another chance only to see him get injured yet again.
Shouldn't it be Bailly reassuring Ole about first team appearances :lol:
 

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Well, when you put it like that...That's probably Ole's wet dream though considering he wanted a "British core". Henderson in goal, Maguire - Ben White at CB, AWB - Shaw at fullbacks, Longstaff and McTominay in midfield Rashy - Bruno - James behind Greenwood as ST. Ole smiling on the touchline. I can see years of mediocrity while wandering between midtable & top 4 with that squad and manager.
An English centric team could push for a title but the investment and money from player sales would have to be astronomical :wenger:

GK: Henderson

RB: AWB
CB: Maguire
CB: White
LB: Shaw

CDM: Rice
CM: Grealish
CAM: Bruno

LW: Rashford
ST: Greenwood
RW: Sancho

Only this team would be acceptable if the club went full Brexit but even then you'd need a proper CF so Greenwood's not so heavily relied upon...

EDIT: And oh yeah, sell Bailly, can't be trusted
 

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Well, when you put it like that...That's probably Ole's wet dream though considering he wanted a "British core". Henderson in goal, Maguire - Ben White at CB, AWB - Shaw at fullbacks, Longstaff and McTominay in midfield Rashy - Bruno - James behind Greenwood as ST. Ole smiling on the touchline. I can see years of mediocrity while wandering between midtable & top 4 with that squad and manager.
Absolute nonsense. Where's this coming from? How about we look at what he's actually done rather than what than what terrible journalists had linked us with.
  • He signed Bruno Fernandes when many were clamoring for us to sign Maddison.
  • Signed Telles to compete with Luke Shaw as the latter's progress was being questioned, we were also linked with Chilwell at the time.
  • Invested in Diallo and Pellistri rather than being messed about with Dortmund for Sancho
  • Signed Van de Beek last summer which may be to the detriment of Grealish
  • Signed Cavani which many were frustrated with at the time because they believed Rashford and Greenwood was enough backups for Martial.
I'm not saying the above are the right decisions but it's simply what he did and there was no "British agenda". So he decides to continue with the ethos of the club and back some academy players such as playing Henderson (who was in form) whilst De Gea was on personal leave, and backing Rashford for LW who has been good for 20+ goals again this season and suddenly there's this nonsense about Ole's wet dream being a British core? Ridiculous.
 
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Not too bothered if he leaves, not good enough (not even mentioning fitness woes) to constantly start for a club that wants to chase titles. Squad player at best, and if does not want that he can go to a club that is willing to play him every week.
 

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I've said time and time again. This United team needs rebuilding from back to front.

Getting in good defenders should be top priority.
 

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It's because you're made from balsa wood mate.
+1 If Bailly managed to stay uninjured and in-form for any reasonable stretch of time, he would be playing way more. Bailly being out more than in, is one thing that is definitely not Ole's fault.

That said - how much of this is baseless rumors, imagined by someone as opposed to an actual fact?

A lie. He is just injured.
Same diff. Point is - we can't count on him

I've said time and time again. This United team needs rebuilding from back to front.

Getting in good defenders should be top priority.
We have without a doubt EPL's best left back of the season in Luke Shaw. Maguire is a fine CB. And actually Lindelof is a very good CB, he is just not a great pair with Maguire because they are too similar. And AWB is a fine backup. That is not a backline that needs complete overhaul. Our problem is lack of depth and competition. We do have good players, we don't have enough. Not the same as not having them and needing a rebuild. If we buy a Bailly-style defender (but not made of glass) to pair with Maguire, and have Lindelof compete with Maguire for his spot + buy a good right back to start ahead of AWB and compete with AWB - we will have one fine backline.
 
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This is the first time Bailly has angered me. He’s been out injured for almost four years, going toe to toe with Phil Jones for physioroom GOAT and now this? Fukk off if this is how he’s going to show gratitude to the club.

Brilliant when he he’s fit, but he’s got to work on taking better care of himself and be reckless.
 

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He's been banged in the head too often. One of the key attributes of a professional player is availability. 100+ game in 5 years? He has clearly failed in that aspect.

And now he is acting all 'disrespected'? If anything he owes the club.
 

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He will be missed... for his contribution on few games over a season.
 

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So we can replace them with Cavani’s & De Beek’s.

Better the devil I know thanks; we aren’t replacing them with anyone better based on our current transfer strategy but yea; they’re ‘the next type of player’ we should offload.

This club is fecked.


Exactly.

Is he often injured? Yes but when fit he’s proven our best CB.

If I’d been on the bench witnessing Lindelof taking a knee for BLM mid match I’d want out too.
Pathetic mentality to have. So just because we didn't have the best window we should now keep more Rojo and Jones in the team? That's like saying I'll never step out of the house because I'm afraid a plane will drop on me and frankly with his injury record and lack of reliability in big games he has no right to set demands and ultimatums. Say what you want about Maguire/Lindelof but they are FAR more reliable fitness wise and FAR more reliable in big games.
Better to let him go and see what our new "transfer committee" will do we had a bad window last year but there is a bigger chance of us replacing Bailly well than him being a reliable CB
 

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I actually like this attitude from Bailly. We don't wanna see another Phil Jones contract, just let Bailly go so we can buy a new one who is not injury prone and fit everytime to challenge Lindelof-Maguire so eventually be regular XI.
 

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Bye, won’t be missed. The fact that we even offered him a new contract is ridiculous, we learnt absolutely nothing from Jones debacle.
 

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Absolute nonsense. Where's this coming from? How about we look at what he's actually done rather than what than what terrible journalists had linked us with.
  • He signed Bruno Fernandes when many were clamoring for us to sign Maddison.
  • Signed Telles to compete with Luke Shaw as the latter's progress was being questioned, we were also linked with Chilwell at the time.
  • Invested in Diallo and Pellistri rather than being messed about with Dortmund for Sancho
  • Signed Van de Beek last summer which may be to the detriment of Grealish
  • Signed Cavani which many were frustrated with at the time because they believed Rashford and Greenwood was enough backups for Martial.
I'm not saying the above are the right decisions but it's simply what he did and there was no "British agenda". So he decides to continue with the ethos of the club and back some academy players such as playing Henderson (who was in form) whilst De Gea was on personal leave, and backing Rashford for LW who has been good for 20+ goals again this season and suddenly there's this nonsense about Ole's wet dream being a British core? Ridiculous.
Agreed 100%.

This idea that Ole wants a British core doesn't coincide with the reality we have.

Remember, for the recruitment team, it is of course a given that they would start by looking at local talents, but they would also expand their scouting network (regional/continental/global), and it is obvious that a local talent is easier to acquire than someone from outside, but that won't stop the recruitment team from looking for talents outside of the local network, our youth teams is filled with talents from the UK as well as from outside of the UK.
 

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if he leaves he leaves, although i like him and I think he is a quality defender (not saying he is better or worse than any of our CBs), he is way too injured and we can't depend on his availability for games.
 

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I'd let Eric Brittle go

Very good player when fit just his body letting him down and maybe some of his own game style puts him in odd situations worsening the problem. I doubt any Giggs yoga work can help him. It's been a waste of 5 years of wages for United. We've been too accommodating with injury prone players.
 

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Well, when you put it like that...That's probably Ole's wet dream though considering he wanted a "British core". Henderson in goal, Maguire - Ben White at CB, AWB - Shaw at fullbacks, Longstaff and McTominay in midfield Rashy - Bruno - James behind Greenwood as ST. Ole smiling on the touchline. I can see years of mediocrity while wandering between midtable & top 4 with that squad and manager.
Yeah Norwegian football manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is probably just xenophobic towards non British people.

Feck me did you think this one through before posting?
 

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Well, when you put it like that...That's probably Ole's wet dream though considering he wanted a "British core". Henderson in goal, Maguire - Ben White at CB, AWB - Shaw at fullbacks, Longstaff and McTominay in midfield Rashy - Bruno - James behind Greenwood as ST. Ole smiling on the touchline. I can see years of mediocrity while wandering between midtable & top 4 with that squad and manager.
2021 and people still talking about Brexit FC like it was ever a real thing :lol:
 

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Not a big deal. It's completely reasonable that a player of his calibre wants to play more, if he's going to develop his career. It's also completely reasonable that he isn't. Bottom line: You can't keep everybody happy.
 

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I want rid as soon as possible, nothing personal as I quite him as a player and he seems like a decent guy but these occasional purple patches aren’t hiding the fact that for various reasons he cannot be relied upon. Plus we have too many centre backs on the books, shifting him increases the likelihood of bringing a new one in. We could replace 3 cbs with 1 and save a small fortune in wages.
 
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