Prophet Muhammad cartoon sparks Batley Grammar School protest

[Synco]

Anti terrorism centre reports would suggest that during the height of Al qaida there were the least antisemetic attacks in Europe and america by islamists/jihadis. Up until 2011 I believe.

I'm going by large-scale anti-Jewish terror attacks carried out between 9/11 and the mid-2010s worldwide. To the best of my knowledge, most prolific ones have been carried out by Islamists, and most of these in turn have been ascribed or linked to al-Qaeda: the synagogue bombings in Djerba and Istanbul, the Casablanca bombings (which targeted Jewish places among others), the Chabad house massacre during the Mumbai attacks, the hypercaché attack during the CH massacre in Paris. The perpetrator of Toulouse and Montauban also claimed allegiance to al-Qaeda, but it seems he was just inspired rather than actually affiliated.

The biggest threat has always been right wing attacks.

As I said in the earlier post, since maybe 6-7 years this has been true. For the US in general this has also been true. Other than that, I don't think it is (see above).

 

[shamans]

Yes, I would include the material if it is pertinent to the curriculum and have in fact offended students before with things I have shown / said / taught. When you teach things like history and current events topics it is bound to happen. Ditto that for biology teachers. You don’t think Bio teachers know they’re gonna offend someone by showing evidence of evolution? You don’t think history teachers know we’re gonna offend someone by showing images of slavery / the Holocaust / police brutality / religion? That doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be taught.

Ignoring some key facts there: if it should be taught why is it not in the curriculum?

 

[manc exile]

Maybe I was unclear. I was asking for where it was said that writers and drawers should generally be cautious to defend nazis.

i never claimed that was said anywhere.

i was replying to "No, I expect professional writers and drawers to be cautious and careful when it comes to some divisive topics."

 

[Carolina Red]

Ignoring some key facts there: if it should be taught why is it not in the curriculum?

What are you talking about?

 

[NotThatSoph]

i never claimed that was said anywhere.

i was replying to "No, I expect professional writers and drawers to be cautious and careful when it comes to some divisive topics."

But you were talking about nazi Germany. Was your point that professional writers and drawers were expected to be cautious and careful about thingns unrelated to nazism under nazi Germany, and that this was wrong even though it had nothing to to with nazism? That sounds weird, so presumably not.

 

[Sultan]

As I said to shamana I would like to discuss certain things with him, not here so not to derail the thread. I offer you the same

I would sincerely advice not to get into debates with certain posters. Been there, and done that for years. It will just end up developing in out of context, populist and discriminatory discourse.

 

[manc exile]

But you were talking about nazi Germany. Was your point that professional writers and drawers were expected to be cautious and careful about thingns unrelated to nazism under nazi Germany, and that this was wrong even though it had nothing to to with nazism? That sounds weird, so presumably not.

no
i was saying that professional writers and drawers were encouraged by some commentators and politicians to not lampoon and satirize nazis and fascists, in the same way the poster was saying they expecting professional writers and drawers to be careful when satirizing islam, muslims and mohammed.

i was saying poster is wrong now and the commentators and politicians were wrong in the 30's. they were both wrong for the same reasons

 

[NotThatSoph]

no
i was saying that professional writers and drawers were encouraged by some commentators and politicians to not lampoon and satirize nazis and fascists, in the same way the poster was saying they expecting professional writers and drawers to be careful when satirizing islam, muslims and mohammed.

i was saying poster is wrong now and the commentators and politicians were wrong in the 30's. they were both wrong for the same reasons

But that's rather silly.

I can do the same thing. Professional writers and drawers were encouraged by some commentators and politicians to not lampoon nazis and fascists, in the same way that some people are expecting professional writers and drawers to be careful when satirizing pedophiles and genociders.

Unless you think teachers should be able to defend pedophelia and genocide you're pretty stuck now.

 

[Roane]

I'm going by large-scale anti-Jewish terror attacks carried out between 9/11 and the mid-2010s worldwide. To the best of my knowledge, most prolific ones have been carried out by Islamists, and most of these in turn have been ascribed or linked to al-Qaeda: the synagogue bombings in Djerba and Istanbul, the Casablanca bombings (which targeted Jewish places among others), the Chabad house massacre during the Mumbai attacks, the hypercaché attack during the CH massacre in Paris. The perpetrator of Toulouse and Montauban also claimed allegiance to al-Qaeda, but it seems he was just inspired rather than actually affiliated.

As I said in the earlier post, since maybe 6-7 years this has been true. For the US in general this has also been true. Other than that, I don't think it is (see above).

I thought we were talking about Europe and America, I did specify that my response was with regards to Europe and America.

Some of the cases you've highlighted, chabad for example wasn't antisemetic and by lashkar e taiba. Links with them and Al qaida have been made by some but I think are a bit tenous from what I know about the group.

Casablanca bombings, no group took responsibility as far as I remember which was unusual for likes of alqaida at the time and isis later, as they took responsibility for anything and everything to "further their cause"

 

[calodo2003]

well I presume most muslims in this thread are either mature enough to give and take offence. I don't know how well I could handle it if I was in the students position at that age.
And I don't think many here who asked for some consideration for the muslim students is actually want to stopped the discussion from happening completely. But they were emphasizing on the delivery of this subjects. Because as many have already mentioned, it's important to have the muslims students to engaged in the discussion. If by not showing them they could contribute more positively in the class, then why not do that? Is doing things your way is more important than that?

Also, muslims students at that age are already feeling alienated because they look different. Showing the cartoons could push them further away

Thank you for not using absurdist hyperbole & absolutist statements.

Do we know what the Muslim students felt? Or are we hearing only from the parents? Difficult to opine on the students as we will probably never hear directly from them.

Regarding ‘doing things my way,’ wouldn’t enlightening non-believers to their potential phobias & -isms be just as important to consider as the offense being felt by a small subset of a religion? Wouldn’t less phobia be a win here? No one is saying to not consider the offense potentially caused by the cartoons, but it’s childish to think that good couldn’t come from showing the cartoons to the larger, non-believer audience & having them look inwards to see if they are perpetuating phobia, etc.

To me, it’s more important to try to challenge the minds of non-believers to potentially become more tolerant than it is to stifle or amend curriculum due to the wishes of an aggrieved few believers in this particular situation. That’s what education should do, it should seek to better the students; unfortunately, some will always be aggrieved by such. I couldn’t care less of flavor of religion it is, it shouldn’t impinge upon

 

[manc exile]

But that's rather silly.

I can do the same thing. Professional writers and drawers were encouraged by some commentators and politicians to not lampoon nazis and fascists, in the same way that some people are expecting professional writers and drawers to be careful when satirizing pedophiles and genociders.

Unless you think teachers should be able to defend pedophelia and genocide you're pretty stuck now.

you have completely misunderstood my point (i hope not on purpose)

professional writers and drawers should not be encouraged to be careful about any subject

teachers should be able to discuss any subject with their pupils, they should not defend paedophilia and genocide, but they should be able to discuss it

 

[Roane]

Thank you for not using absurdist hyperbole & absolutist statements.

Do we know what the Muslim students felt? Or are we hearing only from the parents? Difficult to opine on the students as we will probably never hear directly from them.

Regarding ‘doing things my way,’ wouldn’t enlightening non-believers to their potential phobias & -isms be just as important to consider as the offense being felt by a small subset of a religion? Wouldn’t less phobia be a win here? No one is saying to not consider the offense potentially caused by the cartoons, but it’s childish to think that good couldn’t come from showing the cartoons to the larger, non-believer audience & having them look inwards to see if they are perpetuating phobia, etc.

To me, it’s more important to try to challenge the minds of non-believers to potentially become more tolerant than it is to stifle or amend curriculum due to the wishes of an aggrieved few believers in this particular situation. That’s what education should do, it should seek to better the students; unfortunately, some will always be aggrieved by such. I couldn’t care less of flavor of religion it is, it shouldn’t impinge upon

Think we should wait for all the details to come out before we start making certain statements.

I'm seeing all sorts of statements on social media which are just about having a go at Islam, so no matter what is said or offered it's met with responses ranging from similar to yours to "it's our country if you don't like it feck off". Basically battle lines have been or are being drawn.

Now here's the thing. My younger brother owns a pharmacy in partnership with some guys who went to uni together. One of those guys is from Yorkshire ways and has kids at the school. He runs a pharmacy there but comes here on certain days to provide cover.

Speaking to him the issue has more to it than cartoons alone. As I had mentioned before the class in question tool place on Monday. The protests didn't happen until Thursday. So what went on to lead it to protests a few days later?

According to this fella, and backed up by another the issue was the teacher not only put up the cartoon but was goading students with I'm going to offend because it's my British values and rights to be offensive and what are you going to do about it.

The kids went home and told parents. The parents contacted the school or cameminto see the teacher, his initial response was one of "arrogance" and he initially refused any apology.

Is this 100% true? I honestly wouldn't swear to it as I don't know the fella telling this that well. He's my brothers mate and I've met himna few times to say hello to and exchange brief pleasantries.

However the timeline and comments by the guy outside of the school about "your boys shooting our boys legs off", the schools unequivocal apology and suspension (which I did find weird as the first response of schools is to defend the teacher as much as possible and speak of curriculum and look into it) would maybe have some weight in light of what this guy is saying.

I also thought initially, contrary and maybe wrongly in this case compared to posters like shamana, that the death threat to this teacher isn't high so was surprised to see he was in hiding and under police guard etc.

Now if any of this is remotely true then this isn't about school curriculums and rights and wrongs of broaching topics that maybe sensitive. Maybe this (in light of what a paper printed) "burley 20 year old rugby player" has control or other issues? He maybe new and naive or as others have suggested a prick in which case as parents you would be worried.

Again I emphasize this is just what I gleened in a conversation bwithba guy I don't really know as such, but who is from that neck of the woods with kids at the school.

 

[NotThatSoph]

you have completely misunderstood my point (i hope not on purpose)

professional writers and drawers should not be encouraged to be careful about any subject

teachers should be able to discuss any subject with their pupils, they should not defend paedophilia and genocide, but they should be able to discuss it

But you're the one who brought up the nazis. Why?

Several professioal teachers in this very thread have pointed out that theachers shouldn't feck with their students for the sake of fecking with them, and they aren't nazis.

 

[manc exile]

But you're the one who brought up the nazis. Why?

Several professioal teachers in this very thread has pointed out that theachers shouldn't feck with their students for the sake of fecking with them, and they aren't nazis.

i brought up the nazis because it was an example of writers and drawers (as you call them) being told to be careful and cautious on divisive topics from history.
it was to show that it is always wrong tell writers to be careful and cautious with divisive topics whatever the time and place.

obvioulsy teachers shouldn't feck with their students just to feck with their students, when have i ever claimed they should.

 

[calodo2003]

Think we should wait for all the details to come out before we start making certain statements.

I'm seeing all sorts of statements on social media which are just about having a go at Islam, so no matter what is said or offered it's met with responses ranging from similar to yours to "it's our country if you don't like it feck off". Basically battle lines have been or are being drawn.

Now here's the thing. My younger brother owns a pharmacy in partnership with some guys who went to uni together. One of those guys is from Yorkshire ways and has kids at the school. He runs a pharmacy there but comes here on certain days to provide cover.

Speaking to him the issue has more to it than cartoons alone. As I had mentioned before the class in question tool place on Monday. The protests didn't happen until Thursday. So what went on to lead it to protests a few days later?

According to this fella, and backed up by another the issue was the teacher not only put up the cartoon but was goading students with I'm going to offend because it's my British values and rights to be offensive and what are you going to do about it.

The kids went home and told parents. The parents contacted the school or cameminto see the teacher, his initial response was one of "arrogance" and he initially refused any apology.

Is this 100% true? I honestly wouldn't swear to it as I don't know the fella telling this that well. He's my brothers mate and I've met himna few times to say hello to and exchange brief pleasantries.

However the timeline and comments by the guy outside of the school about "your boys shooting our boys legs off", the schools unequivocal apology and suspension (which I did find weird as the first response of schools is to defend the teacher as much as possible and speak of curriculum and look into it.

I also thought initially, contrary and maybe wrongly in this case compared to posters like shamana, that the death threat to this teacher isn't high so was surprised to see he was in hiding and under police guard etc.

Now if any of this is remotely true then this isn't about school curriculums and rights and wrongs of broaching topics that maybe sensitive. Maybe this (in light of what a paper printed) "burley 20 year old rugby player" has control or other issues? He maybe new and naive or as others have suggested a prick in which case as parents you would be worried.

Again I emphasize this is just what I gleened in a conversation bwithba guy I don't really know as such, but who is from that neck of the woods with kids at the school.

You’re absolutely right. We could just be seeing a result of poorly positioned people at key points in this particular situation. We have found out information from the French beheading that favors poorly on the student, we could also find out that the school itself harbored thick cnuts who exacerbated a deteriorating situation.

‘Burly 20 year old rugby player’ does give off a certain vibe, though.

 

[Andersonson]

So much talk about Islamophobia, yet most muslims are homophobes.

I think its fair to be a bit Islamophobe until the Muslim world changes its view on the matter.

Same og course applies to every other religion, but its most accepted in the muslim societies to not accept gay men and women

 

[2cents]

Oh ffs.

 

[2mufc0]

So much talk about Islamophobia, yet most muslims are homophobes.

I think its fair to be a bit Islamophobe until the Muslim world changes its view on the matter.

Same og course applies to every other religion, but its most accepted in the muslim societies to not accept gay men and women

This gem reminds me of the 'too unracist' post a while back.

It's fair to be islamaphobic, imagine that being said about any other discriminative phobia/ism.

 

[Carolina Red]

According to this fella, and backed up by another the issue was the teacher not only put up the cartoon but was goading students with I'm going to offend because it's my British values and rights to be offensive and what are you going to do about it.

The kids went home and told parents. The parents contacted the school or cameminto see the teacher, his initial response was one of "arrogance" and he initially refused any apology.

And if this happened, the the teacher can feck off and find a different job cause he’s making it a helluva lot harder on the ones of us that are doing it right to still be able to do our jobs.

 

[Synco]

I thought we were talking about Europe and America, I did specify that my response was with regards to Europe and America.

I was talking about antisemitic attacks in general, as all of them are connected by ideology. A terror attack on a synagogue means all Jews, no matter where it takes place. Also no matter if the perpetrators are Nazis, Islamists, or others. Just as a terror attack on a mosque, like in Christchurch, means all Muslims. An ISIS massacre against Shia means all Shia, etc.

Some of the cases you've highlighted, chabad for example wasn't antisemetic and by lashkar e taiba. Links with them and Al qaida have been made by some but I think are a bit tenous from what I know about the group.

Casablanca bombings, no group took responsibility as far as I remember which was unusual for likes of alqaida at the time and isis later, as they took responsibility for anything and everything to "further their cause"

All these terror attacks were carried out by Islamists, which was what the argument was primarily about.

The remark about al-Qaeda was secondary at most, and it isn't important for the overall point at all. I think it holds true, but I have no problem acknowledging that certain perpetrators were unaffiliated, if the facts support it. I also have no problem dropping it altogether, if the facts support it. It's really not the point.

My main problem with this exchange is that if I now answer in the same vein, this will turn into a point scoring contest about antisemitic violence. And this is not a style of discussion I want to have over an issue like this. I'd be grateful if we'd find a better way to discuss this.

But one thing I have to ask you all the same: Why do you think the massacre at the Chabad house was not antisemitic?

 

[Roane]

And if this happened, the the teacher can feck off and find a different job cause he’s making it a helluva lot harder on the ones of us that are doing it right to still be able to do our jobs.

As I say I can't swear to it being 100% true.

However I have been looking at social media and as I mentioned before I have cousins in that area who also attended that school, many years ago and have kids that go there.

A couolemof other "insights" that again I can't swear to is that the particular subject and topic has been on the "agenda" for a couple of years. Including the cartoon. I think this maybe true as I heard a speech in Urdu from a religious looking guy who was on about why Muslim teachers and not raised this before.

It seems.parwnts didn't have an issue before with the topic being broached, and tbf many still don't and have called for calm and let sue process take it's course. In fact a letter has gone out and some parents will be on the committee when discussions take place.

There is some talk of this teacher doing this for the second time. It appears the school have "minimized" (the word used by some I've spoken to or seen) concerns initially. This includes the head and from the testimony of a parent, parents who went direct to the teacher (apparently he reiterated his freedom of speech etc to a parent).

It was only as the issue gathered pace amongst parents and more came forward and a backlash was expected that apologies were forthcoming and talk of stopping the lesson and withdrawing yen source material.

Not sure why the source material is now being taken away, and from what it seems to be indicated, a doing away with the lesson of it's been going on for a few years. IF the problem is the teacher then surely it's better to resolve that?

 

[NotThatSoph]

i brought up the nazis because it was an example of writers and drawers (as you call them) being told to be careful and cautious on divisive topics from history.
it was to show that it is always wrong tell writers to be careful and cautious with divisive topics whatever the time and place.

obvioulsy teachers shouldn't feck with their students just to feck with their students, when have i ever claimed they should.

So what's the deal, the teachers should be careful or they shouldn't? Shouldn't they be careful teaching students math, shouldn't they be careful teaching student karate? Shouldn't they be careful teaching students assault?

You're the one bringing in nazis and carefullness. Where does it apply?

 

[Carolina Red]

Either way, if it turns out he did as you said, then he’s clearly in the wrong. There’s a right way and a wrong way to teach controversial topics, and if he did it the wrong way then there’s no defending his actions.

Not sure why the source material is now being taken away, and from what it seems to be indicated, a doing away with the lesson of it's been going on for a few years. IF the problem is the teacher then surely it's better to resolve that?

I agree with this completely and it is the basic foundation of the points I’ve made earlier in the thread. The material isn’t the issue, to me, as long as the professional presenting it is doing it in a professional manner. It’s our responsibility as educators to make sure we do that.

 

[T00lsh3d]

So much talk about Islamophobia, yet most muslims are homophobes.

I think its fair to be a bit Islamophobe until the Muslim world changes its view on the matter.

Same og course applies to every other religion, but its most accepted in the muslim societies to not accept gay men and women

 

[Sultan]

Teacher training starts at 18 and it's a 3-year course. In the final year, they do go to schools as part of their training. Highly unlikely he is 20 years old.

 

[iluvoursolskjær]

Think we should wait for all the details to come out before we start making certain statements.

I'm seeing all sorts of statements on social media which are just about having a go at Islam, so no matter what is said or offered it's met with responses ranging from similar to yours to "it's our country if you don't like it feck off". Basically battle lines have been or are being drawn.

There is so much veiled hate for Muslims that get expressed in "clever" ways through disguised language armored with access to the ignorance card I've just had enough of it. It's comical how people get fixated on the rights to show a degenerate work then ignore the subtle and blatant Islamophobia that is prevalent in Western society. I'm fecking sick of it.

 

[Andersonson]

This gem reminds me of the 'too unracist' post a while back.

It's fair to be islamaphobic, imagine that being said about any other discriminative phobia/ism.

It was a very poor post. I agree with that.
I got a hefty warning for it to and it was well deserved.

Dont know whats bothering me today, but I should stop posting on forums for a while!

Glad it got the repsons it got, means there are good people on here.

Again, sorry!

 

[manc exile]

So what's the deal, the teachers should be careful or they shouldn't? Shouldn't they be careful teaching students math, shouldn't they be careful teaching student karate? Shouldn't they be careful teaching students assault?

You're the one bringing in nazis and carefullness. Where does it apply?

i think you are confusing two groups of people
writers and drawers are different people to teachers

writers and drawers should not have to be careful and cautious at all whatever the subject, be it drawing of mohamed, sex, nazis, morality in sport or whatever.
i honestly wish i had used a different historical example as you now seemed fixated on nazis

teachers should be careful to not damage their pupils, but should be free to discuss any subject. they should be able to bring in any legal reference to any subject. most aspects of most subjects will offend someone. its part of education. if its not part of education, then its not education, its indoctrination

i also didnt bring in carefullness, another poster (Ecstatic) did, i merely responded

 

[Roane]

Teacher training starts at 18 and it's a 3-year course. In the final year, they do go to schools as part of their training. Highly unlikely he is 20 years old.

You're right. I just checked, it was in the daily mail and says late 20's

 

[Sultan]

There is so much veiled hate for Muslims that get expressed in "clever" ways through disguised language armored with access to the ignorance card I've just had enough of it. It's comical how people get fixated on the rights to show a degenerate work then ignore the subtle and blatant Islamophobia that is prevalent in Western society. I'm fecking sick of it.

Quite!

A minority of posters have become very clever hiding their bigotry and have become quite adept at evading any sanctions from the moderating team. I rarely post in the CE forums these days with these threads mostly just ending up with circular arguments. However, a handful of gems are really beneficial which has helped me change some of my opinions for the better throughout my time on the forum.

 

[Roane]

You’re absolutely right. We could just be seeing a result of poorly positioned people at key points in this particular situation. We have found out information from the French beheading that favors poorly on the student, we could also find out that the school itself harbored thick cnuts who exacerbated a deteriorating situation.

‘Burly 20 year old rugby player’ does give off a certain vibe, though.

Late 20's. My bad I did write 20 year old but was wrong. The Daily mail is the paper I was referring to and they say late 20's not 20 year old

 

[NotThatSoph]

i think you are confusing two groups of people
writers and drawers are different people to teachers

writers and drawers should not have to be careful and cautious at all whatever the subject, be it drawing of mohamed, sex, nazis, morality in sport or whatever.
i honestly wish i had used a different historical example as you now seemed fixated on nazis

teachers should be careful to not damage their pupils, but should be free to discuss any subject. they should be able to bring in any legal reference to any subject. most aspects of most subjects will offend someone. its part of education. if its not part of education, then its not education, its indoctrination

i also didnt bring in carefullness, another poster (Ecstatic) did, i merely responded

Don't worry, we have several examples. Every day writers and drawers keep writing and drawing child porn, uncarefully.

 

[manc exile]

Don't worry, we have several examples. Every day writers and drawers keep writing and drawing child porn, uncarefully.

you really are willfully misunderstanding aren't you
i thought it would go without saying that writers and illustrators (i cant keep typing drawerers) should not have to be careful or cautious in what they write about but are subject to the law and child pornography is rightly illegal in all civilised countries.

 

[iluvoursolskjær]

Quite!

A minority of posters have become very clever hiding their bigotry and have become quite adept at evading any sanctions from the moderating team. I rarely post in the CE forums these days with these threads mostly just ending up with circular arguments. However, a handful of gems are really beneficial which has helped me change some of my opinions for the better throughout my time on the forum.

Oh 100%, I can tell from how people write what they are about because writing takes thought and consideration to a certain degree which reflects qualities; there are super good people here. But why are the dumb minority always the loudest all the time. It's unfortunate.

 

[NotThatSoph]

you really are willfully misunderstanding aren't you
i thought it would go without saying that writers and illustrators (i cant keep typing drawerers) should not have to be careful or cautious in what they write about but are subject to the law and child pornography is rightly illegal in all civilised countries.

I'm not wilfully misunderstanding, I'm making a point. Drawn child porn is legal in some countries, should writers and drawers/iillustrators go for it in those?

 

[Carolina Red]

Don't worry, we have several examples. Every day writers and drawers keep writing and drawing child porn, uncarefully.

you really are willfully misunderstanding aren't you
i thought it would go without saying that writers and illustrators (i cant keep typing drawerers) should not have to be careful or cautious in what they write about but are subject to the law and child pornography is rightly illegal in all civilised countries.

Guys, I may be mistaken, but I don’t think child porn was shown to the students in the school.

 

[manc exile]

I'm not wilfully misunderstanding, I'm making a point. Drawn child porn is legal in some countries, should writers and drawers/iillustrators go for it in those?

i thought we were discussing the UK.
the points i have made were about the UK.

 

[manc exile]

Guys, I may be mistaken, but I don’t think child porn was shown to the students in the school.

i know that, notthatsoph is the one talking about child porn

 

[NotThatSoph]

Guys, I may be mistaken, but I don’t think child porn was shown to the students in the school.

I know, which is why we shouldn't talk in generalities about cartoons considering child porn can be in the form of cartoons. I believe I've made that extremely clear, but presumably you haven't read my comments.

 

[Roane]

It's a strange world we live in, sure enough.

The papers and news outlets in UK have reported on the Batley school incident but the detail has been largely ignored. The focus has been on what councillors, MPs etc have said with regards to the situation. The actuall situation is pretty much left at teacher suspended for showing cartoon.

After I wrote the long winded post about what a local had told me, and the mistake I had made in saying the teacher was 20, I thought I'd check if any info was forth coming.

I was pointed to looking at what papers and media outside of UK were saying. Sure enough likes of The Sun USA have more detail. The teacher is 29, with 4 kids according to them and they back up some of the detail I was told and relayed earlier. Including ringing back a father who has tried to contact him and using the whole British values line.

It also says that potentially two more staff members maybe in trouble and potentially face disciplinary action.

Some of the claims are attributed to protestors and some to the parent who called him, apparently mail online has access to parents Whatsapp group.