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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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Are clubs buying him or marrying him?
It's not the wages I think they would be wary of. They are feckin shite
After the performances they've put in this season, I agreeIt's not the wages I think they would be wary of. They are feckin shite
You would think the scousers have to sacrifice one maybe even two of their front three to make it happen, in regards to Utd it's Pogba and one of DDG/Martial as well to get anywhere remotely near what they want.
He’s not representing Dortmund, he’s representing HaalandDortmund: We made it clear to Raiola that we want to keep Haaland
Raiola: I'll fly to Spain and talk to the Spanish teams.
They went to Barca to put pressure on Madrid. No doubt about it. That's why they went first. I don't see Barca as serious contenders because of the economic restrictions they have. Meeting with PL teams is just to drive the price up. I only see City being serious contenders at that price point anyway. I think he is 100% Madrid bound. They need a statement signing, and Haaland is it. Dortmund should absolutely sell Haaland this summer. It's 150M+ this summer, probably 150M basic plus 30m more in variables, or 75M flat next summer. From an economic perspective, it would be madness not to sell him this summer. They are losing him one way or another. As much as I would love it, I don't see United as serious contenders. The money just isn't there. And after the last few years, we have less to offer in terms of silverware than City or Madrid, so we'd have to pay more than either would be willing to in terms of wages and fee. It's just not going to happen.
All this leads you to believe that if Dortmund see sense and sell Haaland this summer, they won't sell Sancho too. So our choice here is simple, tie up a deal for Sancho NOW, pre-empt the summer moves and potentially scupper other clubs moves for Haaland, or shift targets completely. Because if we chase Sancho, and Haaland is on the move, we will (a) not be able to get him at anything resembling a decent price because Dortmund will have no imperative to sell anymore, or (b) not be able to get him at all. In short that means our target right now should be Grealish, and we should be doing everything we can to advance that deal right now.
This to me seems like basic strategic planning, but not something I feel the club have been particularly good at in recent times. We'll likely chase Haaland, fail, switch to Sancho, realise a deal is no longer possible; switch to Grealish and be late to the party and have to grossly overpay because it's so late, and due to pandemic losses likely miss out. Finally, end up with Zaniolo for 30M and have another square peg in a round hole.
All this leads you to believe that if Dortmund see sense and sell Haaland this summer, they won't sell Sancho too. So our choice here is simple, tie up a deal for Sancho NOW, pre-empt the summer moves and potentially scupper other clubs moves for Haaland, or shift targets completely. Because if we chase Sancho, and Haaland is on the move, we will (a) not be able to get him at anything resembling a decent price because Dortmund will have no imperative to sell anymore, or (b) not be able to get him at all. In short that means our target right now should be Grealish, and we should be doing everything we can to advance that deal right now.
This to me seems like basic strategic planning, but not something I feel the club have been particularly good at in recent times. We'll likely chase Haaland, fail, switch to Sancho, realise a deal is no longer possible; switch to Grealish and be late to the party and have to grossly overpay because it's so late, and due to pandemic losses likely miss out. Finally, end up with Zaniolo for 30M and have another square peg in a round hole.
No one is buying this right? Clearly an April fools joke
The enjoyment some fans get from slagging off United players on this forum is disturbing.
I still don't see who can logically buy this guy beyond City and maybe Chelsea. Neither us nor Barca have the funds (without sacrificing our entire budget+), Madrid have an aging squad in need of much more refreshing and PSG have Mbappe. Anyone else not mentioned simply wouldn't try to pull of a transfer of this scale.
The circus has already started it seems and will only increase in the following months and stay there for years to come. I really like the player but I am starting to prefer United not being part of this circus.
Anyway, I believe we will get involved, monitor, hold talks, ... but not buy him.
Just get Grealish/Sancho instead. Our record with expensive / record breaking British (and Irish) players is excellent anyway.
Anyway, I believe we will get involved, monitor, hold talks, ... but not buy him.
Just get Grealish/Sancho instead. Our record with expensive / record breaking British (and Irish) players is excellent anyway.
"What are your intentions for my son"
Pop psychology says whichever club they visit last is the one he really wants to go to.
People's heads will explode before this saga is over.
My bet is he won't be joining United so I'll not be getting too excited.
We'll be left with Martial
My bet is he won't be joining United so I'll not be getting too excited.
We'll be left with Martial
I belong to a few forums & slagging off your own players is quite a popular pastime.
You'd be surprised at how money can be generated.
Watch out for an extended tour of the middle east this summer with oil rich nations paying a fortune.
I think United will be able to afford him but probably won't spend what it takes to get him.
Plus I don't think the player will pick here
Raiola is probably putting the framework in place for a 2022 transfer.
Ruhr Nachrichten are also reporting he wont be sold before then under any circumstances. They used to be super reliable for BvB, duno about lately
Ruhr Nachrichten are also reporting he wont be sold before then under any circumstances. They used to be super reliable for BvB, duno about lately
Its ridulous. Its a fanbase infested with *****
Which one do you think out of those two would suit us better
Regardless of whether he visits us or not, this is absolutely ridiculous on a professional level, unless of course he has permission from Dortmund.
Imagine Mbappe mid season just flying about to prospective buyers.
Imagine Mbappe mid season just flying about to prospective buyers.
You realize it's not him visiting clubs, but his agent/father? No idea why they would need permission from Dortmund.
That they're stirring things up and that Dortmund can't like it is another thing.
Signing Kane for £130 million is something City can do where he will be the one player they really miss. The final piece of the puzzle. Don't get me wrong - he would be brilliant at United, but it's impossible to spend £130 million in transfer fee and £15-16 million a year in wages for a 28 year old. Basically you are spending £200+ million on a player who will be worth nothing after 5 years.
Precisely, could you imagine his dad and the fat agent pulling this shit while the team is in contention for champions league while at United?Dortmund: We made it clear to Raiola that we want to keep Haaland
Raiola: I'll fly to Spain and talk to the Spanish teams.
As good as he is, it was prudent to walk away as soon as they started talking about a release clause.
City are always one piece away from completing their puzzle it seems, happens every summer, at the same time they're consistently winning trophies every season I think they can go without the final piece.
I think they can go without the final piece.There’s significantly more money to be made for Haaland and Raiola by waiting a year. I think they’re sticking to the original plan and just putting feelers out there for next summer.
If Dortmund don’t get Champions League football Haaland’s obsession with breaking records could change that though.
If Dortmund don’t get Champions League football Haaland’s obsession with breaking records could change that though.
If an offer of 150m+ comes in, it absolutely would be madness not to sell. You could also argue it would be economic madness to actually offer that much, if he's available for way less only a year later. All you have to do is convince Haaland to stay an extra year, and probably pay him some of the difference between the two sums as a signing bonus. Obviously if Haaland is really set in leaving this summer, he will just go to another club. Although I doubt he will be that indifferent about which club to join, so if for instance he really wants to go to Madrid but they make it clear they want him to wait another year, is he really going to push for a move to Chelsea/City or PSG? He could but I think he will have clear preferences as to where he wants to go, and if those clubs know that, they could possibly sway him to stay. I imagine a lot of it comes down to if Dortmund miss out on CL.
Pretty sure Dortmund would sell only at the right price (150+), but I don't think whether Dortmund end up selling Haaland or not will have that much of an impact on whether they're willing to let Sancho go too. They were willing to let him go at the right price last summer, so this summer Sancho will probably get his move if United agree to their (slightly reduced) fee. I think those transfers are somewhat independent of each other. If the right offer comes in, Dortmund probably have an agreement with Sancho to make it happen.
I'm still not sure someone will offer enough this summer to buy Haaland. Or rather I don't think the right club will. Real Madrid still have Benzema so might want to wait that year. Man City have the cash but so far we've never seen them splurge on a single player, but chances are they will eventually. Barcelona probably don't have the cash, and Chelsea might not be a big enough step up? That leaves United, but can't see them bidding enough either.
Raiola is just so toxic.
If he is touring then his mind isnt made up.
Must of read it wrong! Still, the point stands, I don’t think it’s the right way to go about things.
dortmund knew the situation they’d be in when they accepted the release clause. Haaland was always using them as a stepping stone.
I would hope we just take a stance, turn Raiola away from the door, and dont even have the phone call last longer than a single minute.
So you would be happy for our players agents to do this?
Sancho would suit us better as he would make the RW position his own without us changing anything to accommodate him.
My preference would be Grealish, he could rotate with Rashford/Martial/Bruno or we play him in a midfield 3 with Bruno and a new DM.
I would be fine with either but would not be shocked if we don’t make a big signing at all.
Haaland would replace Martial and score 30 goals without any change to the way we play. The difference is that Haaland would attack everything in and around the box whereas Martial spend the entire match trying to isolate the opposition right back into a one on one just outside the area.
Well that plus 127m on a player likely only with us for 3-4 years is just silly planning.
Oh no doubt but I can’t remember the last time I felt less confident about us signing a player than I feel with Haaland.
Sancho just seems more realistic, followed by Grealish (and even getting them won’t be easy at all).
With Haaland the combination of him wanting to come to us, his fee, us making him our top earner and the dozen special clauses his team will demand makes it next to impossible for us to sign him.
Still not nearly enough people absolutely reaming Woodfart out regarding this situation.
This is the whole 'getting Bruno late' thing times about ten.
For 62m between Bruno and Haaland, we could have had about six to seven years' of guaranteed leverage in the market regarding players wanting to come play here. That pays for itself in about half a transfer window.
Managing a football club (or any organization for that matter) under someone like Woodlimp is like trying to walk uphill in rollerskates with a boulder on your back while also pulling behind you a moron in an innertube who won't stop bragging about how much they paid for the skates and the boulder.
Its Woodward. He'll put aside his dignity, and will be desperate to make us seem competitive and viable in the race by dripfeeding nonsense to journalists, only to make a £60million offer in instalments on deadline day.
why not? it is the club's responsibility to convince the player this is the best place for his career, development and also compensation. I am sure Lewandoski stay in Bayern is not because he "loves" the club, but it is the best place for him for his career.
Should have signed Grealish last summer. Although half the mob on here reckon he is no better than what we have already got. Hilarious.
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