Lingard to join West Ham on loan

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Spent years trying to convince many that Lingard is actually a good footballer. Could actually be time to come outside @Kostov
:lol::lol::lol:

You are some character I have to admit. You needed 2 years and a loan spell to get out of your cave and defend Lingard from his "haters"?

Joking aside, I am glad he is doing well honestly and I hope he continues in this form, costing Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal a top 4 place and getting us a good fee.
 

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All these questions asking how Moyes has got more out of Jesse than Ole, just feels like another stick to bash Ole with.

At West Ham he's out of the spotlight in a team with less superstars, less attention by the media, less expectation to deliver every week, he's almost free to do whatever the hell he wants both on and off the pitch where as at United he was quite clearly in a massive rut and not performing, feeling devalued by club and fans let alone his off the pitch family issues. A fresh start is enough to improve your own self worth significantly which can go on to improve productivity and is quite clearly the case here given us current run of form.

Happy he's playing well at West Ham, take whatever fee we can get for him in the summer and move on.
 

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All these questions asking how Moyes has got more out of Jesse than Ole, just feels like another stick to bash Ole with.

At West Ham he's out of the spotlight in a team with less superstars, less attention by the media, less expectation to deliver every week, he's almost free to do whatever the hell he wants both on and off the pitch where as at United he was quite clearly in a massive rut and not performing, feeling devalued by club and fans let alone his off the pitch family issues. A fresh start is enough to improve your own self worth significantly which can go on to improve productivity and is quite clearly the case here given us current run of form.

Happy he's playing well at West Ham, take whatever fee we can get for him in the summer and move on.
Of course, it does. All threads lead to Ole Out. No one will bring up the fact that Shaw is playing his best football under Ole --- and Shaw like Lingard has undergone a gamut of managers too.
 

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It really isn't difficult to understand why Jesse has played better at West Ham & the years he was with us under Jose...Jesse is a counter attacking type of player. He needs space to operate in. It's no coincidence that soon as teams started to play as a low block against us, minimising the space, he struggled a bit more...coupled with all his unfortunate personal circumstances.

Just happy for him that he is playing, and playing well again. Will help us to get those extra few millions we need for our transfer kitty this summer.
 

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What rubbish :lol: :lol:

You obviously meant the world!
Nope - I meant in the League. And I stand by that. Over the last 5-6 games, there has not been many better players than him - if any. 6 goals and 2 assists for West Ham - in 8 games, that's about as good as it gets. Especially if you take into consideration he was also involved in at least 2 more goals
 

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All these questions asking how Moyes has got more out of Jesse than Ole, just feels like another stick to bash Ole with.

At West Ham he's out of the spotlight in a team with less superstars, less attention by the media, less expectation to deliver every week, he's almost free to do whatever the hell he wants both on and off the pitch where as at United he was quite clearly in a massive rut and not performing, feeling devalued by club and fans let alone his off the pitch family issues. A fresh start is enough to improve your own self worth significantly which can go on to improve productivity and is quite clearly the case here given us current run of form.

Happy he's playing well at West Ham, take whatever fee we can get for him in the summer and move on.
If anything it was a master stroke by Ole to allow Lingard out on loan.
He could have kept him at the club and used him as a rarely used backup squad player, instead he allowed him out on loan at a good club to get game time.

Looks ever more like an absolutely fantastic decision, West Ham will want him for sure, his price has gone up considerably.
 

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He’s now operating at the level where if he had never played for us, we’d be clamouring for United to snap him up for £50m.

Great player, delighted that he’s finally showing the quality many of us United fans knew he had.
£50 million for a player who has played 8 games :lol: What a joke
 

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You guys wanting him back are crazy. He’s had years to show us this form and apart from a run of maybe 6 games where he had a decent output, he’s been largely useless!

Move on - all this does is hopefully mean we don’t get our pants pulled down and sell him for £5m as we normally tend to when offloading our deadwood.
do you remember not long ago where he had 0 goals and 0 assists in about 2 years, lower stats than just about any centre half in the league? He goes to a side that suit his style of play to a tee, does well and suddenly he’s a footballing god? How do people not remember doing sod all for us week in week out? Him being derivative of shite is the reason we had to go out and sign Bruno in the first place for feck sake!
Lingard took a year off while most players went through the most gruelling period in football ever.

He's doing great but he has a lot in the tank and an advantage over the rest.
He was awful for us and he isn’t a top player. The pain I had to endure watching him every week used to make my eyes hurt. I’m so glad he’s playing well because it will mean people will want to buy him and we can finally get “young” Jesse off our books. He isn’t good enough for united but then again half our players now aren’t either. Sigh...
Happy for him that he's performing well, but why the feck would anyone want him back here? He was absolute shite here for years, not creating chances, not scoring goals and was more often than not in the running for the worst player on the pitch. Take the £25M and run.
Agree with all the above.

Lingard has simply upped his game for the last big contract payday of his career and the chance to play at the Euros.
His last purple patch was also before the 2018 World cup surprise surprise.
He'll be back to the Lingard we know too well next season and I pray its not with us.
The guys a con artist.
 

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After 8 games nah, let's check back after he's played those 19 games for West Ham.
So you need a run of 19 games to be considered in good form?

Lingard is playing better than Martial. This is a fact. It was true 6 weeks ago and it's true now. It humours me that you cant admit it.
 

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£50 million for a player who has played 8 games :lol: What a joke
Well paying huge money after a handful of games would not be too dissimilar to what we are after doing with Dialio or what we previously did with Martial.
 

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All these questions asking how Moyes has got more out of Jesse than Ole, just feels like another stick to bash Ole with.

At West Ham he's out of the spotlight in a team with less superstars, less attention by the media, less expectation to deliver every week, he's almost free to do whatever the hell he wants both on and off the pitch where as at United he was quite clearly in a massive rut and not performing, feeling devalued by club and fans let alone his off the pitch family issues. A fresh start is enough to improve your own self worth significantly which can go on to improve productivity and is quite clearly the case here given us current run of form.

Happy he's playing well at West Ham, take whatever fee we can get for him in the summer and move on.
Moyes gets more out of lingard
Ole gets more out of man utd

I know which one I’d rather have, thank you West Ham for taking this bellend off our hands
 

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Well paying huge money after a handful of games would not be too dissimilar to what we are after doing with Dialio or what we previously did with Martial.
Both being under 20 years old explaining a lack of first team matches, while Lingard is 28

Martial had a season in the Monaco first team with 27 starts in the league alone before we bought him :confused:
 

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Well paying huge money after a handful of games would not be too dissimilar to what we are after doing with Dialio or what we previously did with Martial.
Players with high ceilings go for more because they could double or triple in value
Lingard value will only go one way, but hey not complaining
 

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So on Lingard, this was his first start on the left for West Ham. He did well in his 1 start on the right as well. Thats what we need to see more of because if he does come back, Bruno is still playing in the middle so Lingard needs to be in form from the wings too.
 

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Lingard took a year off while most players went through the most gruelling period in football ever.

He's doing great but he has a lot in the tank and an advantage over the rest.
This is very true.

Happy he is doing well there but i hope nobody is kidding themselves that this means he's finally good enough for us. He doesn't have what it takes for the top level.
 

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If anything it was a master stroke by Ole to allow Lingard out on loan.
He could have kept him at the club and used him as a rarely used backup squad player, instead he allowed him out on loan at a good club to get game time.

Looks ever more like an absolutely fantastic decision, West Ham will want him for sure, his price has gone up considerably.
Wasn't any masterstroke. If Ole really had expected this move to he the resurgence of m Jesse, he wouldn't have sent him to a top 4 contender. He let him out on loan because the player wanted out and he thought he had no use for him.
 

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Christ. What you really are suggesting here is that the coaching staff at West Ham, in the space of 3 months, have learned a 28 year old to play football. Thats fecking absurd.

There are a lot of factors at play here, but fecking coaching is not one of them
No. What I’m suggesting is that coaching here is so bad it turns players to shit. And no amount of fancy words are going to change what our eyes are seeing. We can’t pass every well for example. And it’s been that way for awhile.
 

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Reality doesn't gel so well with your constructed narrative, does it?
It fits perfectly. You just have to not be so defensive of the club that you refuse the see the problems. But I’m done. Said my bit. We can agree to disagree. Not like any of this shit is worth getting upset over.
 

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Lingard was always a squad player. The anger and resentment people are aiming at him should be redirected at the players who were supposed to be first choice ahead of him.

If Lingard comes back, he'll take VdB's place not Bruno's.
 

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It really isn't difficult to understand why Jesse has played better at West Ham & the years he was with us under Jose...Jesse is a counter attacking type of player. He needs space to operate in. It's no coincidence that soon as teams started to play as a low block against us, minimising the space, he struggled a bit more...coupled with all his unfortunate personal circumstances.

Just happy for him that he is playing, and playing well again. Will help us to get those extra few millions we need for our transfer kitty this summer.
Spot on. Bring him back here and he'll suffer like he was. Not a player to break down the defences that tend to mass against us. I'm happy he's found his place.
 

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Lingard is a good player and was a valuable player when avoiding to be a club like Spurs during our "down period" and continue to win some trophies as much as we could.

He helped us remain successful at a certain level by being a part of the Europa League, FA Cup, Carabao Cup wins but now we should be planning to target the bigger cups in Europe and at Home (CL and PL).

Respect.
 

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Is Lingard a better player than Maddison? You can make a legitimate argument for it.
At the moment Lingard's form would have him about 4th in our best players after Bruno, Shaw and not far off Rashford. So yes if we look at the last 8 games
 

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only watched the highlights but he legit looked Messi like with his dribbling. Loved the little berba spin attempt too. Happy for him. We should ask for £50m I think that’s a fair price given his form & nationality. We always get fleeced, let’s do some fleecing ourselves for a change. They paid that for Sebastian Haller so surely they can pay that for Lingard who has had a much bigger impact for them.
 

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Wasn't any masterstroke. If Ole really had expected this move to he the resurgence of m Jesse, he wouldn't have sent him to a top 4 contender. He let him out on loan because the player wanted out and he thought he had no use for him.
Ole had three choices, Keep Lingard at the club, let him go for a ridiculously low fee or loan him out.
He chose to loan him out and it has proved a brilliant decision, hence me calling it a master stroke, because it is.
 

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only watched the highlights but he legit looked Messi like with his dribbling. Loved the little berba spin attempt too. Happy for him. We should ask for £50m I think that’s a fair price given his form & nationality. We always get fleeced, let’s do some fleecing ourselves for a change. They paid that for Sebastian Haller so surely they can pay that for Lingard who has had a much bigger impact for them.
Doesnt he have a one year contract left?
 

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Apparently hes willing to sign an extension if he doesnt get a move so its nkt really 1 year. The same way Hazard didnt really have 1 year left.
Oh didn't know that, not sure if that's much to go by. I wouldnt blame it if he was to be selfish and come back on that but let's see. I'd like him as a squad player, but would be great too if we receive good money for him.
 

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Happy for Lingard that he's making a splash at West Ham. Despite his sometimes ridiculous off-field antics I still like the guy and everything he's done for the club.

I think West Ham suits him better at the moment as no one is setting up a deep defense against them, he's free to roam in the attacking positions and can pounce on teams at speed by running at them which has always been the types of games when he's at his best.

He'll be a good player for a team like West Ham but there'll be other takers after the impact he's had this season. I don't think getting at least 30 million for him is out of the question considering his chances to go to the Euros are bigger than ever. It is inevitably time to sell up though, we have to move on with new players that have the technical skills required to make an impact in attack and hopefully Jesses' last contribution will be in large parts that it's funded by his sale.
 

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Interesting to see the number of people still claiming he’s not good enough to be playing for United. Like we have a host of players performing better than he did last night... He’s clearly a confidence player and just needed a manager to believe in him and consistent game time. Maybe moving to London has relieved some personal pressures too! Good on him I say!
 

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Jesse is a very streaky player, a bit like Ashley Young. We know he can be pretty damn good for short patches. It´s great that he is having it right now, maybe we can get a decent fee for him.
But people suggesting we should set a 50m pricetag on him are absolutely nuts! Every manager and sporting director out there know very well what kind of player and person he is. They know he can go through long patches where nothing happens for him as well. I would be delighted if anyone would offer +20m.
 

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Moyes gets more out of lingard
Ole gets more out of man utd

I know which one I’d rather have, thank you West Ham for taking this bellend off our hands
Rating or not rating him is your opinion but bellend really?

He always comes across as a decent bloke to me.
 

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Rating or not rating him is your opinion but bellend really?

He always comes across as a decent bloke to me.
His antics on social media seem to rub people the wrong way but he seems universally liked by all his team mates, former and present, similar to Pogba.
 

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Lets not rewrite history here, he was poor for all his ManUtd career except for the spell in 2017-18 season. He got plenty of chances and people moaned about him being in the squad, how we are not ruthless, still haven't sold him and all that.

Finally we made good decision to at least loan him out and he has found the team that suits him and the team where he is playing so well. It's good for all parties to make the deal happen and move on, instead of trying to bring him back.
Unfortunately it's a common theme on here lately, especially with Lingard.