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The German teams holding firm could prove to be a fatal flaw for this whole stupid plan. Who else are they going to get that adds the allure and marketability of Bayern or Dortmund? Who would the rotating five teams be if the German clubs refuse to participate?
The driving forces behind this like the Glazers, FSG, Florentino, Agnelli, and Kroenke pressured others with the possibility of being left behind if they didn’t. How can the ESL expect to be the elite competition if it doesn’t include a German or French team? If they can’t get any other clubs to capitulate quickly, it could collapse. That’s my most optimistic view of how this goes.
You realise all 12 clubs can dump domestic football and simply make this league their full time league?
That will depend what is in their contracts...
It would of course depend on their contract. We would certainly see it tested in court.
If they think the players will be happy to give up playing in the Euros and World Cup they really don't understand football.
It's a joke.
The tweet literally says "April 2031" a whole ten years away.
It's
EDIT: Ogden not Mitten.
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Lets be up front about this, the new CL came about because of EUFA trying to keep the big clubs happy. They're been threatening a super league for well over a decade.
Good
I wonder if the three venues are Spain, Italy and England ??
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Uefa president Aleksander Ceferin says a final decision over the full list of venues to stage the upcoming Euros has been postponed.
“Postponed our final decision until on Friday," said Ceferin.
"We have to settle some things from three possible venues who might be excluded.”
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Uefa president Aleksander Ceferin says a final decision over the full list of venues to stage the upcoming Euros has been postponed.
“Postponed our final decision until on Friday," said Ceferin.
"We have to settle some things from three possible venues who might be excluded.”
This will be the start of something much bigger if it happens.
How long until the likes of West Ham, Everton and Leicester etc want in and for a ESL2 with the likes of Porto, Benefica, Ajax, Rangers and Celtic etc
How long until the likes of West Ham, Everton and Leicester etc want in and for a ESL2 with the likes of Porto, Benefica, Ajax, Rangers and Celtic etc
Agreed. I want all of them toe punted out with immediate effect and their grubby little league to go down like a popped balloon.
I'd imagine it will violate their broadcasting contracts for one thing.
It does work in the NHL, where they also draft plenty of players out of Europe - players who are already under contract to European teams. There is (or at least was) a negotiated arrangement whereby European clubs get a certain compensation, but essentially it's the law of the jungle. For instance, both the NHL and the KHL (the top russian league) have simply poached players under contract elsewhere. I don't think you can stop that legally, at least not in Europe. What's keeping the system together is really UEFA, and the unified structure of football leagues which means you can't really escape from UEFA sanctions anywhere.
If there's a break between ESL and UEFA, I'm not sure there's anything to stop players from simply giving their notice at their present clubs and moving to an ESL club, if they want to. There's no essential problem to introduce an entry draft if they want to - it's just a mechanism for distributing the rights to players, among the ESL clubs. It doesn't have to be just entry level-age players.
Benfica not in favour of the Super League. Porto not joining either.
What a mess
That is what will happen anyway, if not now, then later. The blows will come in parts, not everything at once
The question here is: will Ronaldo go back to Sporting or move to US to play for MLS? International football for him is his priority specially at this age (same for Messi).
If this stands then there is no way this goes ahead.
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enforcing what? surely to play in either a uefa or fifa affiliated competition, you need to be playing in such recognized organisations? Expulsion will put pay to that
End of a beautiful friendship.
I think we are all forgetting the real victims in this: The programmers over at Sports Interactive who will need to somehow untangle this for Football Manager 22.
It is the logical consequence further down the road.
Tampa Bay Utd, has a ring to it...
You know he went away after this conversation chuckling to himself about how clever and sneaky he is. “In the game of chess, you can never let your adversary see your pieces.", said Ed.
What so then it gives Ole Outers an excuse to hit Ole with?
It won't happen, they can't. If anything it would be NEXT season.
Same thing goes with the banning of players from internationals. It won't happen, too many legal contracts to work out. They can't ban players for something their clubs did.
So what do we think happens to the clubs involved if this all goes tits up? I mean in terms of their future as a football club. At this point with the backlash i'm expecting this to get very messy.
Also, do we think the decision to rush this through before fans are allowed back in the stadiums is intentional?
Also, do we think the decision to rush this through before fans are allowed back in the stadiums is intentional?
Oh, I know. We managed to help make the CL a much worse competition by having input in these changes (in my opinion) only for us to jump ship anyway.
It saddens me that United are in that bracket
And all the managers are under strict orders not to comment !
Players also but probably don’t care as agents are for sure embroiled in this.
Fans can’t protest (vocally) due to lock down.
Even no comment from England manager .. Probably also under advice from legal teams.
Would be hilarious actually. Instant CL win for PSG, but would feel rather hollow winning it like that. Maybe the best possible outcome for the CL this year
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So PSG won the CL?
Well yeah, but what else are you going to do? 12 clubs isn't much though, but if you get 200-300 mill euros to join in I guess there won't be lack of clubs.
me too. Fecking Woodward
Almost a bigger money version of what Ashley has spent the last decade doing at Newcastle, we'll see if many still believe Newcastle fans were asking too much for a bit of investment and ambition when Utd are happily raking it in being bottom half fodder for City and PSG etc
The reason is spelt revenue. They need the top talents for broadcasting revenue for the international games. Money is the decisive factor here, it's all posturing from UEFA at this point.
Ed's favorite books are from Sun Tzu and Machiavelli.
No it doesn't, and no you can't turn the argument around. The 12 clubs want something that would be hugely detrimental to European football, and at worst turn the club I've supported almost my whole life into something I could no longer care about. UEFA wants to stop this. Which means that in this case, and however bad UEFA might be generally, they're in the right and doing the good thing.