Players & managers react to the Super League

Henrik Larsson

Still logged in at RAWK (help!)
Joined
Sep 13, 2013
Messages
5,421
Location
Swashbucklington
What I would prefer is to have some of the biggest players in the world like Ronaldo and Messi come forward, and tell the corrupt people in charge of FIFA and UEFA that they are not in a position to threaten them.
 

The Firestarter

Full Member
Joined
Apr 8, 2010
Messages
28,111
Has Bruno actually said something or people are referring to his clap emoji as his "standing against the SL" ?
 

JustinC00

Full Member
Joined
Feb 4, 2013
Messages
2,688
So none of the players who matter spoke out yet?

Yes because those players know they stand to make even more money with that league. Only players you'll get speaking out on this are retired players, players in the German or French (see: Ander Herrera) league or players (Ozil) that know they won't be wanted by the clubs in the super league.
 

Tom Cato

Godt nyttår!
Joined
Jan 3, 2019
Messages
7,565
I prefer the club captains coming out with a united front against this. They KNOW that the fans do not want anyting to do with this.
 

Stocar

Full Member
Joined
Dec 30, 2011
Messages
699
Social media outrage from halfwits who get payed 100k+ per week for kicking the ball, over the big ethical issue of replacing one overhyped cup competition (wrongly called a league) with another. They'll surely make a firm stand and put their earnings on the line when the push comes to shove. Surely. A true revolution of our age.

I can't believe people take this nonsense seriously. It's just a stupid game, and evertyhing around it has been decadent since forever. Who cares.
 

Henrik Larsson

Still logged in at RAWK (help!)
Joined
Sep 13, 2013
Messages
5,421
Location
Swashbucklington
Has Bruno actually said something or people are referring to his clap emoji as his "standing against the SL" ?
You'd assume all the players of the 12 or 15 clubs involved are instructed by the clubs to keep their mouth shut at this point in time, but I don't know if this is the case.
 

The Firestarter

Full Member
Joined
Apr 8, 2010
Messages
28,111
You'd assume all the players of the 12 or 15 clubs involved are instructed by the clubs to keep their mouth shut at this point in time, but I don't know if this is the case.
If they do keep their mouths shut, it is basically bending the knee.
 

tomaldinho1

Full Member
Joined
Nov 26, 2015
Messages
17,371
Bruno has broken ranks. What a legend!

not sure how to link it but he’s replied to something on Twitter.
 

Devil may care

New Member
Joined
Jan 7, 2010
Messages
35,976
Social media outrage from halfwits who get payed 100k+ per week for kicking the ball, over the big ethical issue of replacing one overhyped cup competition (wrongly called a league) with another. They'll surely make a firm stand and put their earnings on the line when the push comes to shove. Surely. A true revolution of our age.

I can't believe people take this nonsense seriously. It's just a stupid game, and evertyhing around it has been decadent since forever. Who cares.
I'm amazed at how many people are unable to grasp the concept of their being levels to everything, it's like saying some guy breaking into a museum and stealing millions worth of art is the same as someone who runs a sex trafficking ring, both are crimes but not all crimes are equal.
 

SwedishFish

New Member
Joined
Nov 6, 2017
Messages
1,129
Not a player or a manager but you have to laugh at this :lol:

Where were you with this outrage when the sheikhs took over Liam

 

redpatron

Full Member
Joined
Oct 5, 2014
Messages
1,057
I’ve just seen in the main thread that UEFA have said that any players involved in this Super League will be banned from World Cups and Euros. Surely that’s going to bring out a few knee jerk reactions from players.
Good luck on that happening, Euros and World Cups would be watered down competitions with empty stadiums and terrible tv deals. Players at the end day will choose to play for generational wealth over their country flag.
 

Lynty

Full Member
Joined
Oct 21, 2014
Messages
3,094
Just like all the other working men earning £100k+ a week.
Loving all the faux-outrage.
Exactly, that's what I find most hilarious about this outrage, like this is greed, but demanding a couple of 100k a week to kick a football, is not and it's only now that the sport is being ruined. Hypocrisy at it's best.
Never understand this reasoning.

Born into a working class family and was fortunate enough to make a career from playing football and entertaining thousands of fans for his club every week? But you want him to do it for a working mans wage whilst millions goes to the owners, most of which where multi millionaires at birth?
 

tomaldinho1

Full Member
Joined
Nov 26, 2015
Messages
17,371
I saw it. He applauded The tweet of that Wolves player saying ‘football dreams can’t be buy’ or something.
Yh think it was Podence

What's great is the bad grammar confirms it's probably actually him and not just some media team getting likes
 

golden_blunder

Site admin. Manchester United fan
Staff
Joined
Jun 1, 2000
Messages
119,440
Location
Dublin, Ireland
Plenty of players are speaking out but they're not really the ones people will listen to. Ideally you need Messi and Ronaldo to make a joint statement against it, but that's extremely unlikely.
Suddenly it’s clear why Messi can afford to stay at Barca and why madrid are linked to Mbappe and Haaland
 

Henrik Larsson

Still logged in at RAWK (help!)
Joined
Sep 13, 2013
Messages
5,421
Location
Swashbucklington
If they do keep their mouths shut, it is basically bending the knee.
I don't see why the players would be particularly opposed to this Super League though? From their POV, they're playing for a big club, getting a lot of money. And now their club tells them they have a new plan that would be good for the club and therefore also for them.

Since nothing is 100% official at this point in time either, why would they already speak out?
 

TrueRed1999

Somehow bleaker than Nostradamus
Joined
May 9, 2019
Messages
291
Location
Manchester
Thought it might be worth having a separate thread for the reactions of various players and managers (past and present) to the super league news. We will be getting a lot of these reactions over the coming days and they'll get buried in the other threads.

A few already:





Fantastic that current and ex players are coming out now but it hasn't been a working man's game since what the 80s? Average players earning 10000% of what a normal person earns in a month but in a week. I think and hope this will end up overhauling the entire structure of football wage cuts/wage caps, agent fees cut/caps, transfer limits/transfer caps and finally sorting out the corrupt within Uefa/FA/FIFA. I am all against this Super League from happening when the only ones who will profit from it are owners, I hope this is the beginning of the end of the Glazer Ownership of our club. ALL Fans and Ex Players must know get behind one another to oust these leeches from our beloved club.
 

sullydnl

Ross Kemp's caf ID
Joined
Sep 13, 2012
Messages
34,063
Strong "yet you also participate in society" vibes in here.
 

The Firestarter

Full Member
Joined
Apr 8, 2010
Messages
28,111
I don't see why the players would be particularly opposed to this Super League though? From their POV, they're playing for a big club, getting a lot of money. And now their club tells them they have a new plan that would be good for the club and therefore also for them.

Since nothing is 100% official at this point in time either, why would they already speak out?
Some foreign players maybe, but academy players that have come up through grassroots should definitely see what this means and speak up.

What do you mean not 100% official ? Every club made a statement . It is official. But it may fail to materialise and that's why players need to overwhelmingly speak out now.
 

horsechoker

The Caf's Roy Keane.
Joined
Apr 16, 2015
Messages
51,376
Location
The stable
Louis Figo - 'only to serve self-interested owners, who stopped caring about their fans long ago'

The same guy that left Barcelona to join their arch rivals now talking about caring about fans?
He was greedy and got tricked because he thought Pérez had no chance of becoming Real president. I don't think he actually wanted to join Madrid but had to.

He played himself as DJ Khaled would say.
 

Tom Cato

Godt nyttår!
Joined
Jan 3, 2019
Messages
7,565
Social media outrage from halfwits who get payed 100k+ per week for kicking the ball, over the big ethical issue of replacing one overhyped cup competition (wrongly called a league) with another. They'll surely make a firm stand and put their earnings on the line when the push comes to shove. Surely. A true revolution of our age.

I can't believe people take this nonsense seriously. It's just a stupid game, and evertyhing around it has been decadent since forever. Who cares.
I'm sorry, but I can't get over the fact that you call people halfwits and immediately proceed with being as proficient with grammar as a walrus would be with a pair of shoelaces.
 

Gehrman

Phallic connoisseur, unlike shamans
Joined
Feb 20, 2019
Messages
10,993
I can't see players or managers going against this if they can see it making them even more rich than they are. Greed is always going to win in these cases.
 

tjb

Full Member
Joined
Sep 6, 2013
Messages
3,309
I’ve just seen in the main thread that UEFA have said that any players involved in this Super League will be banned from World Cups and Euros. Surely that’s going to bring out a few knee jerk reactions from players.
That's a ridiculous stance that people aren't criticizing yet because of their focus on the clubs. What exactly did the players do to be punished. Essentially UEFA are so power hungry that their willing to destroy their international representation to prove a point by scapegoating the players and people are too outraged to see how morally inept that is. Thats like a government saying they'll increase taxes on people working for certain companies if they don't bend to their will.
 

sect2k

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Mar 7, 2010
Messages
198
Location
Slovenia
You do realise that if the players don't get paid high wages all that money will just go straight to the owners instead. Out of everybody involved in the huge financial business that is football, it's the players who most deserve to actually demand a significant portion. They are the ones providing the product that actually makes the money.

Of course, some players do go overboard and push for stupid amounts.
No, it's not. They get offered what they get offered by execs and ultimately the players are the ones that generate revenue. It's only fair that they get a big slice of this huge cake.
Never understand this reasoning.

Born into a working class family and was fortunate enough to make a career from playing football and entertaining thousands of fans for his club every week? But you want him to do it for a working mans wage whilst millions goes to the owners, most of which where multi millionaires at birth?
Funny, how football was entertaining, before players were paid 100k+ a week, and no that doesn't mean that I think every penny should go to the owners, just that inflated player wages are just as much part of the problem of modern football as some break-away football super league is.
 

Paul the Wolf

Full Member
Joined
Apr 17, 2014
Messages
17,567
Location
France - can't win anything with Swedish turnips
Never understand this reasoning.

Born into a working class family and was fortunate enough to make a career from playing football and entertaining thousands of fans for his club every week? But you want him to do it for a working mans wage whilst millions goes to the owners, most of which where multi millionaires at birth?
Who said I didn't want him to earn a good living, you've missed the point. This is 2021 not 1921, he's been earning good money for many years and is no doubt a multi-millionaire himself, good luck to him.

Even owners of small clubs tend to be multi-millionaires, why is there this jealousy of other people having money. Is everyone jealous of supermarket owners, factory owners.
This whole thing about United and the Glazers as if they were the only club owned by multi-millionaires, it's frankly ridiculous.
 

Reapersoul20

Can Anderson score? No.
Joined
Aug 13, 2006
Messages
12,076
Location
Jog on
I'm sorry, but I can't get over the fact that you call people halfwits and immediately proceed with being as proficient with grammar as a walrus would be with a pair of shoelaces.
:lol: You're dead right.

This subject really seems to be bringing out the incel contrarians, falling over themselves with their "WELL, ACKSHUALLY THE GAME HAS BEEN RUINED FOR YEARS" bollocks.

There are massive, widespread issues in the game, no doubt. It's never been taken over in a coup by a few billionaires who are completely disconnected from the game though.
 

Dec9003

Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016
Joined
Jul 31, 2015
Messages
8,922
Strong "yet you also participate in society" vibes in here.
I think it makes people feel clever. The idea that a football player earning a lot of money is just as bad as a closed off european super league that only exists to allow American businessmen a slice of the pie at the cost of competition is ludicrous.
 

Reapersoul20

Can Anderson score? No.
Joined
Aug 13, 2006
Messages
12,076
Location
Jog on
Funny, how football was entertaining, before players were paid 100k+ a week, and no that doesn't mean that I think every penny should go to the owners, just that inflated player wages are just as much part of the problem of modern football as some break-away football super league is.
Inflated player wages are significantly less of a problem that egotistical billionaire owners coming in and thinking it is acceptable to destroy football as it currently exists - and in doing so pull the ladder out behind them so no other clubs can realistically compete with them. That is a major issue. Players being paid handsomely for kicking a ball is ridiculous - but let's not mince words here - it is NOWHERE NEAR as big of a problem as this galling display of hyper-capitalism.
 

UNITED ACADEMY

New Member
Joined
Aug 14, 2018
Messages
13,127
Supports
Erik ten Hag
It is every football people’s dream to play in World Cup and UCL, this is the traditional and the culture of football world. This project is trying to kill one of the dream. Honestly, I can see lot of players & managers will be against this idea and eventually it won’t happen.
 

Stocar

Full Member
Joined
Dec 30, 2011
Messages
699
I'm sorry, but I can't get over the fact that you call people halfwits and immediately proceed with being as proficient with grammar as a walrus would be with a pair of shoelaces.
I'm not a native English speaker. But since you're obviously a scholar and intellectual, could you please enlighten me what was so particularly wrong with my post that it grated you so much, especially in terms of "grammar"?
 

Tom Cato

Godt nyttår!
Joined
Jan 3, 2019
Messages
7,565
That's a ridiculous stance that people aren't criticizing yet because of their focus on the clubs. What exactly did the players do to be punished. Essentially UEFA are so power hungry that their willing to destroy their international representation to prove a point by scapegoating the players and people are too outraged to see how morally inept that is. Thats like a government saying they'll increase taxes on people working for certain companies if they don't bend to their will.
The Norwegian governing body of football have come out and said that they support the banning of our own players from international competition. They are completely behind UEFA. Stands to reason many more are.

FIFPRO have challenged the banning from international duty, so that will be a legal battle all on its own.

This is only going to get uglier.

But on that note: The players haven't done anything to be punished. The clubs have.
 

Tom Cato

Godt nyttår!
Joined
Jan 3, 2019
Messages
7,565
I'm not a native English speaker. But since you're obviously a scholar and intellectual, could you please enlighten me what was so particularly wrong with my post that it grated you so much, especially in terms of "grammar"?
The point was that you're throwing mortarshells in a glass house when you start insulting peoples intellect, while you can't get your own sentences correct.

The word you were looking for is 'paid'

Kind Regards

A scholar and an intellectual